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Old January 21st, 2018, 10:32 PM
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Fallout Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.

The home stretch, there was an issue concerning the ADF TIGER Helos and it is my thinking it was a date issue at the time. This came to my attention when if you remember, we had made many corrections concerning ADF Armor and ultimately their TO&E with the help of a serving member of the ADF via email which has all been posted in this Thread and MBT one as well, as again, I migrate these inputs back into their "home" threads once Don has indicated he's done with them or after the Patch gets released.

This would be an appropriate time to maintain Don's sanity at this point how I've generally come across these. It simply has to do with the connection between the things I've already found i.e. Israel's A-4 lead to Australia's A-4 same with the F-5 and so on. But the other thing I always do is manually search the OOB for any copies of the UNIT my focus is currently on or close to that might need a change of some kind.

So for Don, rest assured that after these items are taken care of, I'll stay away from REVIEWING AN FURTHER OOB's!!

So back to...

Australia/UNITS 457-460/TIGER ARH/MULTI-UNIT PICTURES AS NOTED//
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Australia/UNITS 461 & 462/TIGER ARH-AT/SINGLE UNIT PICTURES//
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This last I've had with the rest, it demonstrates some defensive characteristics of modern helos. And you should've seen the Swiss PUMA one I found releasing their "ANGEL FIRE" trail as it was climbing to clear a mountain. Anyway...
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Alright the SWISS ARE NEXT...

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Old January 21st, 2018, 10:52 PM
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I hate drawings for UNITS and I'll reserve any further opinion on the matter, however, I do realize especially for new types of equipment a drawing (SIM or otherwise.) or model might have to stand in for a temporary period of time. Though these would very rare occurrences. but I have pictures!!

Switzerland/UNITS 151-153/F-5E/NEW PICTURES//
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I messed up with this one, it's just a COUGAR. See how they fly...
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Old January 21st, 2018, 11:33 PM
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Sliding into home plate...

To finish off Switzerland...

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And finally... (To the "MP" fans)-And there was much rejoicing!!

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France/UNIT 121/MMP/TI-GSR 60/ALL WEAPONS VALUES ARE MISSING//

This ATGW is as good as the TOW ITAS from what I can find or at minimum "darn" close. Like you can't really see much space between my fingers close. I have no real problem with the start date but as my ref points out it did go into initial serial production in JUN 2016. Also ref 2 confirms weapons production back in 2013. I backed off this because I thought it a done deal in the FORUM but, than I've been a "ghost" in this facet of ops for a longtime now.
https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/201.../?spt=slh&or=8
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...issile-019729/
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...range-missile/
https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.w...ication-phase/
http://www.army-technology.com/featu...siles-4159253/


Don THANK YOU for the opportunity! HeII I even bet our old deadline! A cause for a celebration in of itself - but I'll refrain from that.

Everyone THANK YOU for allowing this process to occur uninterrupted to this point.

I hope a "hint" of how you can make life a little easier for Don has presented itself here at some level. Equipment issues are in some way the most difficult issue to contend with in having to do the calculus for all the values, based on as much data as can reasonably be digested to reach a fair conclusion. We'll never know the truth of it all, if we did and put it out here, I suspect some of us would be "Making BIG rocks into LITTLE ones". Enough said...

And now I to the floor.

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