The unbeatable combination is it out there?

Gozra · #1 August 22nd, 2002, 05:50 AM

Level 5 PDC's 2 on each ship and a few LC's as anti-fighter ships will take care of the fighter swarms. Sorry, but that is too easy to counter.

Fyron · #2 August 22nd, 2002, 06:01 AM

Knock the Religous enemy out before they can get Talismans.

Skulky · #3 August 22nd, 2002, 06:06 AM

When you play games like MFKT where everyone has everything then it changes stuff up a bit, however, part of the religious disadvantage is they dont' get any good stuff until the talisman. and also for a heavy research race, the idea is you are superior and have won, or are in a really good position to do so when you end. also, as you see the end in sight, scrap one or more research facilites on your planets that are all research and put in value improvement plants there or nature shrines for the religious player. this way the conVersion will go easier. You coudl even consider changing over some earlier.

[ August 22, 2002, 05:06: Message edited by: Skulky ]

Baron Munchausen · #4 August 22nd, 2002, 06:09 AM

We had a cry for help on these Boards from someone else some months ago. His problem was an enemy using Crystalline Technology and Phased Energy Weapons in combination. That's ARMOR skipping weapons combined with SHIELD skipping weapons. Nasty. Since the game is already in progress you can't try it out this time around.

But you could research say, the Null Space Cannon and the Phased Polaron Beam if phased shields aren't to close to being developed. That would also be a nasty combination. Since he has the talisman you can skip ECM and other 'defensive' techs (like stealth armor) in favor of piling up as much shield and armor points as possible.

The classic counter to the Talisman though, is long-ranged weapons. Especially seekers. He can't hit you if you aren't in range.

Jmenschenfresser · #5 August 22nd, 2002, 06:12 AM

Has anyone ever tried a massive fighter/missle combo attack? I think if you made really fast fighters, they could engage the enemy before your ships close enough to fire missles. Usually the only way to beat PDC is to flood it, and that's hard to do with either or.

Dunno.

Phoenix-D · #6 August 22nd, 2002, 06:42 AM

I'm using meson/missiles/fighters in a PBW game right now; I'll let you know how it turns out. Right now though I'm not actually attacking, just being an isolationist SOB

Phoenix-D

Mephisto · #7 August 22nd, 2002, 04:36 PM

Close Quarter Combat. You need to reduce his advantage of scoring more hits per time then you. Remember, you can save your ECM against a religious race and you can leave scattering and cloaking armor at home. Nothing of this will help you in the way of the to-hit-chance. This free tonnage could and should go into shields or simple armor so you can take the beating while closing the distance and then GRILL HIM!