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Old June 7th, 2020, 12:53 PM
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Exclamation Re: APC Development and related topics.

Every time we try to get ahead of things it goes wrong somehow. The badger issue is deeper than just the IFV. We have an ATGM version, and APC version and an SP mortar version and they had all started 1//113 but the mortar and Missle variants show being turreted here.........

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/moder...-africa/Badger

Which was not the info we had when it went in and all the armed variants are turreted including the Section variant APC

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There are six variants of the Badger, of which five are armed, namely the Section variant (30 mm), Fire support variant (30 mm), Mortar variant (60 mm), Command variant (12.7 mm) and Missile variant (Ingwe). The Ambulance variant is not armed.
.....and the mortar version is not 120mm....it's a 60 mm DLS breech loader but it carries 256 bombs ( 255 is the largest number we can use but "close enough" ) you won't run out of ammo with one of those

wonderful........

I will push them all forward and adjust the formations and I doubt this will be the last time that happens
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Fallout Re: APC Development and related topics.

Why Don and I enjoy OOB work so much...
Looking back at Post 493 above on the BADGER, Ref 1/6 variants, Ref 2/5 variants and Ref 4/9 variants.

Carry ranges from 6-10 troops (Though that ref did indicate it would be a tight fit @ 10.) for the "Section" variant.

Now I'll lean on Ref 1 for those numbers as listed on the bottom of their article as 4 crew + 7 troops.

The "Support" variant won't have a ammo issue as well, it'll only carry a two man dedicated ATGW team attached on very one of the type, also from Ref 1. 5 less seats/troops make a lot of room for extra 30mm rds. and whatever their ATGW teams carry.

I'm leaning on Ref 1 for the BADGER because of the listed Bibliography though the refs are all good, the one that caught my eye was the following: "Smit, A. 2018. Interview with Badger, project manager Denel. Date 9 Feb. 2018."

This is why, though I compared them against my sources, this ref. was so important to me in unraveling the SADF MBT issues as submitted for the last patch, it was the SADF and SA industry interviews that were important to me plus they also included/used a couple of others I had independently researched myself.

So here's that Ref 1 again.
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/moder...-africa/Badger

It's always good to have a "tie breaker" if the situation warrants.

The bright side is it's only, actually now 4 years behind schedule. better then ARJUN at 30 years I suppose!?!

Daughter is "kidnapping" CINCLANTHOME for a week so I'm off to bed to send them off.

Thanks Don!

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