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Old August 28th, 2002, 01:18 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that Atrocities.

Maybe they did have "over 20 emails" requesting that you shut down, but I bet between us we could send them over a hundred unique emails asking for your site to be re-allowed.

Atrocities, if you post the address of the rep you've been talking to, we'll start a letter writing campaign right now.
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Old August 28th, 2002, 01:25 AM
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Thanks. I have other things going on, and my time may get a bit thin. I wanted to let those who care know so that I don't get a million emails.

There are many members of this forum who are far more valuable posters than I. Besides, I am ditching my ISP, AT&T at the end of September. I am getting too sick of dealing with their BS.

My account has been paid in advance for two months since I started service. After winning a complaint against them, I was given six additional months of free service. What they did, was charge my checking account for six months of service, then shut me off.

This happened late Thursday. I just got the right person on the phone just today after wasting all day Friday trying to get the right person. She was able to get this mess squard away. It took them all day to get me up again. I had to use the neighbors PC, and its Dial up. Most of my time on line was spent trying to get AF to put my site back up. (Friday & Monday)

Needless to say, this has been a very bad week for me. My PC had a fatal system error late Thrusday, and I had to burn up my Last free MS support service call to get it up and running again. That took all night. (Thanks Fyron. Those new Nividia drivers currupted my system files. )

I get back on line just to find out I am not on line. Call AT&T and get the low down on their screw up. The lady I talked to at first was very rude to me saying that I owed AT&T for six months worth of service, even after they billed my checking account for six months. She treated me like I was trash. I had to fax her a copy of the email from the state Attorney Generals office about the resolution to my complain about AT&T. After that, the ball started rolling. It took them until just about an hour ago to get me back on line. I will get my money back tomorrow along with the credit. I still am paid up thru the end of September. After that, I am going to a $10.00 Kmart dial up service. I have no need now that I don't play Tribes any more for high speed cable. Simply a waste of money at $55.00 bucks a month.

Top this off with finding out that AF killed my site on Friday morning, and my week was complete.

I will still keep this site as my home page and post, but the way I see it, I won't be on line all the time. That is a good thing I guess.

Perhaps your right, this has been a bad week, and some time cooling down might brighten my mood. I will let you know.

I will post the next email I get from AF. This should be interesting.

[ August 27, 2002, 12:37: Message edited by: Atrocities ]
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Old August 27th, 2002, 02:00 PM

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Hell with the way the laws are we should get some one to send an official letter to that web hosting service to shut down every single site until they can proove that their is no copyrighted material posted...

...just to make a point.... about how stupid their rules are....
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Old August 27th, 2002, 02:13 PM
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I think you are probably right on about the real reason AF took action. While I have heard of Paramount going after sites, even those I would consider very obscure such as yours, I have never heard of them requesting a site be shut down before at least contacting the person who is behind it about removing the content they feel is in violation. The Last time I checked your site there was much on it that had nothing to do with Trek.

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Old August 27th, 2002, 03:33 PM

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Hi Atrocities,

I’m just one of those guys who love your shipsets.
I’m not a regular visitor here, so I missed the whole history. But what I learned now after reading very few of certain postings is more than enough....
Your story seems to be one of those much too good examples for the saying “Man Is Wolf to Man”, just another poor soul full of envy and narrow-mindedness pursuing his very own happiness and nothing else. It is ironic but unfortunately not very surprising that these people who pretend to be/live/or whatever the pure Star Trek miss the whole point. I would call it tolerance and mutual respect but who am I compared to the true crusaders.
That had to be said....
Sorry to read that you don’t intend to continue your wonderful work. (Forgive me, if the following sounds patronizing, but English obviously isn’t my native language and I really got mad about the whole stuff.) You have every reason to be angry and disappointed. However - according to my experience in my life/job (and I’m really old) - retreat isn’t always an option, don’t let the bad guys win too easily. You and your work deserve a better fate than being stopped by someone who probably wouldn’t even considered to become a member of the Federation due to complete lack of some of its most important criteria.
I wish I had a server, it would be an honor to host those great sets.

Please resonsider....

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I did some checking, contacted a few of my sources, and I found that paramount discontinued shutting down fan sites because it gave them a bad rep and drove people away from the franchise. This was back when DS9 started it's second season.

Needless to say, I'm very disturbed and upset about this turn of events.

And I can't help but wonder who's next. Maybe a disgrunted star wars fan, or babylon 5 fan, or just someone who is disgruntled.

I enjoyed the trek race styles, even though I am not much of a trekker these days. Can you at least upload them to here for safe keeping or maybe just setup a small site somewhere to host download links to them.
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Atrocities,
Let me know what sort of bandwidth you need. I might be able to find a home for your sight. Email me at "tenryu@cyberwar.com".
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