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Old September 12th, 2002, 11:18 PM

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Default Re: Poll: Are Phased Polaron Beams too powerful?

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"I tend to look at weapons in terms of the damage per turn per KT of the component. PPB's are WAY ahead of the other weapons."

No, they aren't. Several weapons, including the APB, beat them out. Most effective for the relatively low research cost though (and even that can be a bit deceving).
If you factor in their shield-skipping ability as extra damage, then, yes, they do. (and if your opponent isn't using shields, then he sets himself up for misery in many other ways (ship capture, engine destroyers)).
PPBs dominate the game from fairly early on until pretty late in the game. Are they necessary to win? Nope. But it's a lot easier to win with 'em than without 'em

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Old September 12th, 2002, 11:56 PM

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Default Re: Poll: Are Phased Polaron Beams too powerful?

"Again, if you look at it in terms of research invested, APB XII's do slightly higher average damage but take longer to research and are countered by low level shields that PPB's ignore."

"I tend to look at weapons in terms of the damage per turn per KT of the component. PPB's are WAY ahead of the other weapons."

One or the other Tezzezar. Don't use one when I'm responding to an argument based on the other!

APBs also have longer range. WMGs have a 30% to-hit bonus, and can run away between shots. Meson BLasters take about as much research as PPBs but don't drop off, so they do better damage/kt at max range. Ripper beams do much more damage at close range. Null-space cannons don't care what defenses you have, but are expensive to use (not to research, they cost less than APB).

PPBs are a bit imbalanced, but only because phased shields cost so much to research.

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Shield Depleter and APB XII armed ships can slaughter PPB armed ships quite easily.
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PPB beams are almost useless against Phased Shields...
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"PPB beams are almost useless against Phased Shields..."

I wouldn't say that. They only loose 5 points of damage at close range to APBs, and cost a lot less to research.

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Default Re: Poll: Are Phased Polaron Beams too powerful?

But they cost like 4 or 5 times as much to build and maintain.
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Default Re: Poll: Are Phased Polaron Beams too powerful?

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But they cost like 4 or 5 times as much to build and maintain.
1.5 times as much, actually. Build time only slightly affected, since most of the cost is in rads. And APBs only cost seven times as much to research...

APB XII -- 400 min/ 120 rad - 1,630,000 research
PPB V -- 500 min/ 300 rad - 240,000 research

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