OT: I Remember When

[Puke]

Originally posted by Gryphin:
Puke,
Reguarding this thread getting you down:
My interpretation is that most of the wars including the Crusades were for economic power. Even the American Revolution was motivated by the merchant class who stood the most to gain from it."

indeed, most religions were invented for social or economic gain. of course that is the motivating factor for any military conflict you could name.

On a positive note:
As for regulating meat: Did you ever read Sinclare Lewis's description of the meat packing industry in the US? I have forgotton the name of it.

Positive note:
Comunications as fast as a ship:
Remember how many people died at the Battle of New Orleans 3 days after a peace treaty was signed.

what the heck is positive about that? that was some gruesome business (in both your examples)! or did you mean that we are better off now than we were before? All of my previous comments were designed to give the impression that modern society is leagues ahead of where we were 'before,' and all of the leave-it-to-beaver glorification of recent history should be taken with a grain of salt.

It is my Optimistic Cynical positon to quote,
"Times Change, People Don't"
I do feel the quality of life improves. The people who talk on cell phones in a restaurant, well, I don't know about them.
I feel people still take as much leasure time as they would have 200 years ago. Work a holics existed back then as they do now.
In short: The pase of life has not increased. Our capacity to fill it has.
Disclamer: I could be way off base here. I just choose to belive all of the above os true.
Life Gets Better.

it sounds like were talking the same language, here.

[Gryphin]

Puke,
Yes, I meant that with near instant comunications we can avoid events like The battle of New Orleans.
And I miss understood your intent. I do feel the qualty of life has gotton better despite some of the negative things.
So, yes we do seem to agree

[geoschmo]

Well, I am glad you two got that settled. Now why don't you guys hug and get out of here so the rest of us can get back to complaining.

[Puke]

well then, now that thats all square:

I remember when you could get a bag of chips (or other salty snacks) and it would actually contain the product as advertised. These days, you pay a large sum of money for fancy packaging and pLastic canisters that are concave in the middle (so they hold less), are filled 60% with air, and the remaining 40% contains either air-puffed snacks or ones that are circular or otherwise hollow in the center so that they fill a spacious volume with a small ammount of 'edible' material.

the same applies to those bic pen-erasers with the hole down the center of them.

[ October 01, 2002, 00:12: Message edited by: Puke ]

[Puke]

hows this:

i remember when i read the first review of SEIV, and when i first installed the demo. When that crummy envelope first arived in the mail, with that flimsy paper CD holder. The first stellar construction, the first game i finished, the first game i played Online. The first PBW game.

i remember the summer i spent playing CIV-1, maybe two years after its release. I remember my only multiplayer game of SMAC. (it was fun!)

i remember when playing games Online meant playing your daily turn, and waiting for everyone else in the game to dial in to the BBS and play their turn. As in TradeWars 2002, Operation Overkill, and other greats.

i remember when playing multiplayer games meant sitting next to a friend infront of an Atari 400 (upgraded to 8K RAM) and trying to time your button clicks to grab land faster than the guy next to you (M.U.L.E.). Or when it meant hotseat text-based games on an IBM-XT, or hotseat Romance of the Three Kingdoms, in its first incarnation. I remember that it was easiest to play Escape from Castle Wolfenstein with two players, because it took one to move and another to aim / do actions.

Now mulitplayer games mean glassing the planet of someone you have never met, or silly click-fest / frag-fests that have more to do with how much money you have spent on your computer and internet connection that how good you are at the game.

Originally posted by Puke:
well then, now that thats all square:

I remember when you could get a bag of chips (or other salty snacks) and it would actually contain the product as advertised. These days, you pay a large sum of money for fancy packaging and pLastic canisters that are concave in the middle (so they hold less), are filled 60% with air, and the remaining 50% contains either air-puffed snacks or ones that are circular or otherwise hollow in the center so that they fill a spacious volume with a small ammount of 'edible' material.

the same applies to those bic pen-erasers with the hole down the center of them.

I remember the days when things could only add up to 100%. Of course even then, nobody liked a smartarse...

[mottlee]

How's this! Gas......$0.23 Per Gal!

How 'Bout it anyone else?