Analysis of boarding parties.

[Suicide Junkie]

Crew quarters give 4 boarding defense points. It has been that way since SE3 or earlier.
Ties go to the defender.

Boarding attack/defense points are multiplied by four to get the default decription of the number of turrets/troopers.

The defense strength of Crew quarters can be increased or decreased by adding a "boarding defense" ability to the component.

Proof:
A) One (1) cruiser with 1 modded boarding party providing 21 attack points.
B) One (1) cruiser with 4 Level 1 Boarding parties (5 points each, total = 20 attack points)
C) One (1) cruiser with 5 crew quarters.

Cruiser B attempts to board cruiser C. It fails.
Cruiser A attempts to board cruiser C. It succeeds.

Thus, cruiser C has less than or equal to 21 defense points. It also has equal to or greater than 20 defense points. (Since ties give unknown results)

Thus, Cruiser C has either 20 or 21 defense points.

Since 21 does not divide evenly into 5 (five crew quarters), Cruiser C must have 20 defense points.

Since 20 vs 20 failed to capture, ties must go to the defender.

(sorry Geo)

[ October 28, 2002, 03:33: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

[Fyron]

My analysis:

Boarding ships are fun. Just load a few BP Vs on board, and you're ready to go. Ships either get captured, or self-destructed. Either way, the enemy lost more than you did.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
(sorry Geo)

SJ, why in the world are you sorry? My reason for doing this work and posting this was to clear up the confusion. I think I came close, but if there are inacuracies in my calculations, then I want to get them corrected.

However, since I am trying to write this from the perspective of a user and not a modder, rather than force calculations on them I will simply say the crew quarters offers a defense factor of 16. Does that make sense to you?

Geoschmo

[ October 28, 2002, 13:47: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[dogscoff]

I altered the "boarding parties" entry (without knowing about this thread) and said that the crew quarters are destroyed in boarded ships.

Then someone (Geo?) changed it to this:

The captured ship is not damaged by boarding. (unless it has a self destruct device)

I'm sure I had it right. I observed it only Last night, several times. I don't have the game in front of me but can anyone prove it one way or the other?

[geoschmo]

I changed it. I have never seen that, and in all my tests the crew quarters are not damaged.

Perhpas you are playing with the P&N mod or some other mod in which crew quarters are given security station ability, and you have a weapon that damages these?

For that matter, maybe a weapon that targets security stations in the stock game will damage crew quarters. I don't know for sure. But the boarding parties themselves will not.

Geoschmo

[ October 28, 2002, 14:35: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[Suicide Junkie]

Well, aside from losing all of its shields, boarding parties and security stations, and any collateral damage caused while forcefully dropping the shields, no.

In P&N v3.1, Psychic crew quarters will be damaged during a capture attempt since they have the boarding defense ability added on top of their normal built-in defense.

[ October 28, 2002, 15:23: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

[geoschmo]

Ah, that explains it. So security stations are destroyed in a succesful boarding, even in the stock game. I had not got that far in my tests. I was just testing how many stations prevented the attempt.

And by adding the security station ability to the crew quarters in your mod, that is why D was seeing them destroyed.

Btw, SJ. When you give the crew quarters the security station ability, does it add to the inherant sec station value of the crew quarters, or replace it?

Geoschmo