MP: GotM: Gardens of the Moon, Game Over: WL wins.

[WraithLord]

ok. we're now officially looking for a sub to lead Van.

Edit: Tryfan, I hope you're ok and not having any RL crisis.
I'll assume you were suddenly unable to play dominions anymore nor communicate that fact. Finding otherwise would be disappointing.

[Executor]

What happened to the score graphs on Llamaserver?
Has Ermor managed to sabotage even that as to keep us in the dark about his rising powers?

[LoloMo]

The score graphs in my other llamaserver games are gone too.

[Calahan]

llamabeast recently did a bit of bug-fixing on his server with regards how a new version of the game would inadvertantly enable the llamascores in games that they shouldn't have. Part of the fix saw him turn off the llamascores for all games, and then have them return in only the games that should have them when those games next hosted.

In short, the llamascores should return once the turn hosts. (in this game, and every game where they've disappeared)

[WraithLord]

Thanks Calahan.

As a master subber and a great player, may I interest you in taking the reins of the Kingdom of Van?- It has peace now with all it's neighbors and we're just at turn 45 so the all the options are open.

To other news - Originally the game should have hosted yesterday. Switching to 96h pushed to hosting 24h. The server however shows next host to be further pushed 48h. In the interest of maintaining the game momentum and fixing the score graphs I'll force host today (all but Van have sent turns).

As for Van, if no sub is found in the next few days I'm afraid we'll have no choice but to turn it to AI

[Executor]

Jotunheim officially declares war on Ermor. Our numbers might be small but we are big!

We invite the nations of R'lyeh, Marginon, Ulm and Shinuyama to join us.
Pythium has already started to fall before the undead legions, and their numbers seem endless.
This very turn the nation of Jotunheim has been invaded by Mictlan, Ermors faithful ally, and Ermor has placed massive troops on the Jotun - Ermor border, which include legions of undead, mages, Water Queens, Bane Lords, Spectral mages, trolls and troll Kings, and even their pretender.

It won't be long before Ermor takes over the world as the giants and the nation of Pythium can't stop them.

Please contact us, and join the crusade against the undead.

Cealum, now that everything's out in the open, would you mind telling me if it was Ermor who so Very generously supported you?
I for a fact know that you couldn't have had an amazing 240 A gems for summoning 8 Shinys, I made sure to waste as many Cealums gems in the first turn of the war and at least 100 were used for battlefields spells, including a load of water gems too. And let's face it, Cealum had a rather bad gem income.
I don't think you even had the mages to forge them the items, so, it Was Ermor who supported you right?

[WraithLord]

Yeah right. That's cheap propaganda if ever there was such

Pythium didn't yet lose one soldier. All he does is keep his armies mostly in his castles and attacks sporadically while I raid his lands. So it looks like I'm ahead of a war that's not really fought.

Second, Jotun has recruit-able SCs and blood eco. and can blood sac. It is one of the best nations in the game and certainly stronger the mid level MA Ermor. For example, to obtain one thug chasis I need to summon and equip a commander while Jotun can just recruit one from every castle.

The party is over Jotun. No more stomping over helpless nations. You have met your match and it shall be an even fight. If you could call 2 of the top three nations in the game teaming against the 3rd fair

Besides, Pyth has asked for this war. He broke the NAP, attacked me and even though I gave him two chances to peace he has twice rejected them. I don't really want his lands and if he wants to I'll certainly consider to negotiate peace with him.

I'm also perfectly content to let Mictlan have all your lands and VPs. Let Miclan be a super power. I'm certainly for that as I've no desire to be the leading nation, that spot is too hot for my tastes.
Pay attention that although you threaten me, broke your NAP with me and try to convince other players to attack me (like Pyth ) I did not attack you.

Pewf. How about that, the wolf masquerades as a sheep. Now that's a sight

Edit: Oh and I now notice that you resort to lies as well. Nice. Pray tell how many troll kings and trolls I have at your border?- How about 0 as I haven't even summoned one. Plus so many half truths that's just too tedious to list.

[Numahr]

O despised unholy blood-thirsty giants,

Your question both insults and honors us.

Let it be known that the proud and independent nation of Caelum never was the puppet of an other nation. We would firmly refuse help if it meant loosing honor honor and independence, even at the brink of extinction.

You may have greatly underestimated the magical reserves we inherited from our God's previous incarnation. My Gem-Accountant-in-Chief does not have a full explanation for the origin of all the gems, probably just cautiously saved over time. But a large part of the explanation of what seems like a mystery for a limited giant's brain lies in the following facts:

- disappearing Pretenders, in a last inspiration of wisdom, may give a second life to their treasures by transferring it to the most virtuous Nation still alive, which does not mean becoming the puppet of anyone as the doomed Pretender does so on its way to Tartarus;

- the spell summoning those Shishis your unfortunate Giants have learned to love brings two of these lovely creatures for the price of 30 gems, not one. So what you see is the result of 4 rituals, who were entirely self-financed after 1-to-1 trade agreements to procure air gems;

- idem for the items, painstakingly procured on the international market at their real price.


Actually when I took over the main question was this, what to do of this little mountain of gems, I am happy to see that my choice brought us the opportunity of this little talk...

Waiting forward to your next wave of sentenced-to-death giants

[WraithLord]

Executor, you disappoint me.

You goad Caelum so that he'll tell you how much Shishis cost and how much gems he has. That's low. Is it not enough that you all but vanquished him and that he survives by fighting bravely and nobly against all odds - that you must resort to false accusations to get more info from him?
Is it not enough that through manipulation you caused his ally TC to betray him to his death?
Do you now try to do the same with me?- 2:1 (and thanks Mictlan now 2:2) odds not good enough for you?- R U concerned now you learn that your ally chooses to hide in his castles rather than fight?

Also, your scouts are not blind, you're just lying as I have no trolls. No W. queens (just 1) at your borders and not my pretender either for that matter. Here, happy?- Your filthy lies bought you more info for you to abuse. Turns are kept on the server so all can be checked thus such lies are futile.

Oh and "Good thuggish"? R U kidding?- I had Jotun in AT and those werewolves were a killing machine. With EN bless and cheapest of items they become. Well. Awesome. And you know that so don't play coy.

Nobody is my puppet. Now you insult me and my friends. I treat all the players I talk to with utmost respect. I never lie and keep all my promises. I lay out the facts and let each decide. Did it ever occur to you that those that side with me do that out of their own choice and will and after much thought or do your habits for manipulation make you see all the rest to be the same as you. I'm not power hungry to win. Don't care much about the outcome but I do care about those nations I'm bound to and luckily, they know I will never betray them.

You know what. You're not convincing anyone. The convinced are already convinced and I guess that's true for those who side with you as well as to the other camp.
However, resorting to lies and insults is low. Sad that you'd choose to act in such dishonor. It doesn't become a player of your stature.

[WraithLord]

Oh Man, Why did they remove the edit button

I double checked my turn and I owe you an apology re. one sub-fact that you mentioned. You said that "massive troops on the Jotun - Ermor border, which include legions of undead, mages, Water Queens, Bane Lords, Spectral mages, trolls and troll Kings, and even their pretender."
For the record I've only 1 WQ there, no spectral mages and no pretender. I don't have troll kings but I forgot that I summoned one sea king for BF water spell support . I checked all my border castles to try and figure out where that troll kings claim came from and found this one king. God forbid, as sea kings are known to dominate the late game
So while your statement consists of a number of lies and exaggerations I do in fact have one sea king.

While mentioning armies why don't you mention your armies at my borders? Complete with all the resplendence of NE bless woodsman and shrouded WW.

Why don't you mention that prior to your 2:1 war declaration on me Pyth had more income than me and you had more gems and provinces?- Is it my fault that Pyth doesn't fight back?- or would you like me to raise a white flag ?

I say. Good riddance of Jotun. I want none of your provinces. All will go to my ally If things go my way.