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Old August 9th, 2008, 05:33 AM

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Thanks about tips Mobhack. If I only find better info about Georgian army structure somewhere (tank/inf/air force)... Have anyone better info/url which has it?
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Old August 9th, 2008, 06:21 AM

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Btw, why tank company in Red oob includes only 2 mbt's and 9 light tanks? And tank platoon has only light tanks (PT-76, BRM-1 and 2) but no mbt's (T-72 etc.) at all...

Bug or made by purpose?
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Disk Georgia RED Orbat file

This is a quick Georgian RED OOB. Put it in a sub-folder of the orbats called \Georgia or whatever, and use the OOB swapper utility to change with RED backup when required. It does not change the AI pick list - just uses one "AI only" formation for the light mech company with pick-up trucks or Otokar Cobras.

It's based on info gleaned from Tanknet forums. If there is anything you disagree with, feel free to use the thing as a basis for your own edits, as that one will not be maintained - it's not "official".

Tanknet forums are here: http://63.99.108.76/forums/index.php?showforum=29

Notes:
T72 SIM-1 is a version sourced from Ukraine apparently. Its main change is that it has TI. A rarer AI pick than the standard T72. Seems to be about 1/4 of the G T72 fleet. All T72 are later models, with the 98 model gun. Added a KMT model to the engineer tanks, and a BMR engineer vehicle too. Georgian Army is a T72 based one, but some T55 later variants will appear. Added a CS tank type for those who need more HE.

What used to be REDs militia are now titled "National Guards" which seems to be the name for the Georgian territorials. The reserve infantry are less well trained, and are not used by the AI. Use for emergency new conscripts etc.

SP Arty seems mainly 152mm based - no evidence of SAU-122. G has bought DANAs and RM-70 MRL. Some off map batteries based on these are provided. I remained with the 4 piece arty battery organisation that the RED orbat uses as I cannot confirm if G uses 6 piece btys. The arty formation with "1 only" means just that - buy it and you have bought all the msta SPA G has - 3 pieces . G has 57mm AAA, 18 pieces, so added as well. G has bought GROM MANPADS from Poland as well.

G has bought a fair few Otakar Cobras. These seem to be used as APC as well as for scouting. Added a motor rifle coy type with these as the base (smaller section size), and also as I have seen a fair few utes seemingly used in the APC role, these have been added as a possibility for this motor rifle coy type too.

Air - about 50/50 of SU-25 and L-39s, a dozen total or so of each. 4 only SU-24. 18-24 or so later model Hinds, and some MI-8s and Hueys. only 2-3 light spotter helos. Have used RPV, so added to the spotter light plane type.

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Old August 12th, 2008, 03:34 AM

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Do you mean game version number or what? I have latest version 4.0 installed.
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Do you mean game version number or what? I have latest version 4.0 installed.
4.0 is the version of the game executable, not the OOB version ID.

To see that, open the Encyclopaedia and look at the version number information displayed at the foot of the screen, just underneath the buttons.

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For those who are interested in Georgian equipment:

http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum...pic.php?t=1070

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...d.php?t=139586

What else tanks/apc/etc. they have?

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Wow thanks Andy! I must check this immediately...
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Default Re: Georgian OOB?

I am just tosssing it here for brainstorming purposes. Given the way the Chechenya issue played out and the type of forces represented perhaps their OOB could be turned into something more generic? Something that could include others forces in the area maybe, with a picklist to deal with the different possibilities?
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Default Re: Georgian OOB?

You mean something like "Generic former USSR insurgents", with Red being Generic FUSSR govt forces?
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Default Re: Georgian OOB?

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You mean something like "Generic former USSR insurgents", with Red being Generic FUSSR govt forces?
Basically, how about using Chechen OOB for Caucasus insurgents and Mujahadeen OOB for Central Asia insurgents? In both cases they could also be used against/in neighbouring countries (respectively Iran/Turkey and China/Pakistan/Iran).
Trouble is, we got two clean, varied OOBs with dedicated flags, names, location codes and whatnot, so I'm not sure there would be much point in, well, re-generalizing them to the level of a Red or Green OOB.
Also think about the names and ranks lists if you go mixing Chechens, Georgians, Azeris, Russians...
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