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 BTW, I think I should let you all know I'm going to do this. I'm planning my first Proportions Ringworld. I have the tech, I think I have the economy (two homeworlds conquered, two more on the way, extensive colonisation) and I have the will.  
 
All this against the AI, of course... 
 
Once I've colonised the ringworld, I plan to build a spaceyard there and then begin work on a Cultural Centre. (Are there any other facilities i should build first to decrease production time? I have no special techs so I can't build cloning centres or temporal SYs, and I can put my urban pac fac on another world in the same system.) 
 
All the while I'll be ferrying a massive (ie depopulate 3 entire homeworlds) population onto it. I've already started redrawing the warp-points to make this process easier. I'm also wondering whether it would be more efficient to have a stack of starliner-worldships (which take ~20million pop but have a max speed of 2) or a fleet of smaller, faster pop transports that will only take a few million each, but can make several journies in the same time. 
 
Anyway, Once I get the population to 10-20 billion I'm hoping a CC will be achievble in my lifetime. 
 
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		    Thanks Deccan. 
 
I've just had a thought- is there anything (I mean, you know, apart from the mind-bogglingly crippling costs involved) to prevent me from using worldships to carry the ringworld components? That way I could use my homeworld spaceyards to get them built quicker. (although I'd have to pay maintenance on them while they crawled to their destination)  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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I've just had a thought- is there anything (I mean, you know, apart from the mind-bogglingly crippling costs involved) to prevent me from using worldships to carry the ringworld components? That way I could use my homeworld spaceyards to get them built quicker. (although I'd have to pay maintenance on them while they crawled to their destination)
			
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How many homeworlds did you start with? 
 
What starting tech level and research cost setting did you set for the game, and what turn is it? 
 
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		Ya. Hehe. However he said he was just gonna try to build one, not to fill it up with CC's. 
 
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BTW, I think I should let you all know I'm going to do this. I'm planning my first Proportions Ringworld. I have the tech, I think I have the economy (two homeworlds conquered, two more on the way, extensive colonisation) and I have the will. 
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		Hmmmm.... 
My original question was answered in that there is no upgrade route to a cultural centre.      
But I am still lost in the upgrade route to other facilities.
 
Like is the upgrade route to a Metropolis through Minor City==>Major City==>Metropolis?
 
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