Info Windows 7 *GUARANTEED* fix - Page 3

Nitro Cruiser · #1 May 26th, 2010, 04:42 PM

Guys I tested Ncrawlers fix extensively on Windows 7, both WinSPWW2 and WinMBT place the Win7fix.cmd file in the game folder(for WinSPWW2 you'll need edit the file Win7fix.cmd and change the .exe from WinMBT.exe to WinSPWW2.exe, make a shortcut to the modified Win7fix.cmd, change the name and icon if you like and that's it) works like a charm. Play in full screen mode, no color palette distortions. I would recommend this be implemented in a future patch.

One small side effect. I have a program that changes the Windows 7 Start button function to mimic Windows XP. Using this file converts it back to the Windows 7 appearance until the PC is re-started (as one would expect when switching the explorer.exe characteristics). It's a small price to pay and unmodified Windows 7 users will never experience it to begin with. Just thought I'd mention it.

Nitro Cruiser · #2 May 26th, 2010, 04:48 PM

Oh note: I was using Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit. AMD single core (laptop) 3.5 GB memory shared video ATI 3400. Longest test run stretch was approx. 8 hours about 40 hours total testing time done (both games). Hope this helps.

Render · #3 May 27th, 2010, 10:45 AM

NC - Did you get the lag effects from full screen?

JUST
CHECKIN,
R

Imp · #4 May 27th, 2010, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Render

NC - Did you get the lag effects from full screen?

JUST
CHECKIN,
R

Guessing here but the solution might be to buy the game, if I remember the free version is 640x480 which is ancient my graphic card does not support anything that low so running at full screen in it would cause problems.
As I said this solution has worked every time so far though all have been bought copies not freebies.

Nitro Cruiser · #5 May 28th, 2010, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Render

NC - Did you get the lag effects from full screen?

JUST
CHECKIN,
R

Render, I have had some lag, during the AI's turn prior to them finishing. I must confess I've been playing a campaign with lots of units and build (this was in WinSPWW2 not MBT). I attribute this to the AI moving a ton of infantry (1939). I have not had this issue during my phase. What is your computer spec's?

you can try:

dialing down the animation (preferences)
close any un-needed processes running in the back ground
manually give the game application more of your CPU resources (properties)

See if any of that helps. Also does it seem to worsen as you play?

DRG · #6 May 28th, 2010, 07:44 AM

The free version is 640x480 AND 800x600 and has anyone who has had lag issue tried adjusting the delay rates to see if that helps ??

Don

Render · #7 May 28th, 2010, 08:36 AM

I've always run the free DL version at 800x600 full screen. I'm an old Squad Leader player (with really bad eyes) and I like maximum size DYO maps with the maximum number of units on both sides.

I've tried and tried to play in windowed mode and cannot handle it for very long, it's physically painful for me.

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So, does the paid for version not have the lag effects at full screen in Win 7? Do the higher resolutions fix that lag? And would they be easier for me to see without leaving nose prints on the monitor?

I'm still holding off on buying because I have very little money and I don't want to buy if it's still going to lag as badly as it does on full screen in the free DL version with the palette fix in place.

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Don - Changing the message delay rate doesn't change the lag that I can see.

BRB,
R

Render · #8 May 28th, 2010, 09:08 AM

ok I'm back...

Don - I'm guessing you meant the message delay and/or animation rates? Neither fixed or changed the lag, in either direction. With or without the palette fix in place.

Also the palette fix seems to be crashing sections of Win 7's Explorer (or the whole thing). No toolbars, no icons, no desktop, only the backround remains, no way out after game exit except to hard reboot. And it doesn't shut down the DOS window on start up.

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I'm using a Samsung 906BW 20-inch, its primary resolution is listed as 1440x900. But for some odd reason BF2BC multiplayer runs better on this rig in 1024x768. I'm not even going to try and troubleshoot that buggy game...

This is the same monitor that was on my old XP rig, which is another reason why I'm wondering if the higher resolutions are going to be a fix.

I'm more then willing to keep testing...

Especially since my old XP rig just died (multiple hard drive self-immolation). Over 500 saved games lost forever...

DESPERATION
IMPENDS,
R

Nitro Cruiser · #9 May 28th, 2010, 03:59 PM

Guess I should of read down a bit more....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Render

ok I'm back...

Don - I'm guessing you meant the message delay and/or animation rates? Neither fixed or changed the lag, in either direction. With or without the palette fix in place.

Also the palette fix seems to be crashing sections of Win 7's Explorer (or the whole thing). No toolbars, no icons, no desktop, only the background remains, no way out after game exit except to hard reboot. And it doesn't shut down the DOS window on start up...

I'm more then willing to keep testing...

Especially since my old XP rig just died (multiple hard drive self-immolation). Over 500 saved games lost forever...

DESPERATION
IMPENDS,
R

I have noted the issue with the icon-less screen once that you mention above. I bumped my "Windows key" (on the keyboard), the game was minimized to the task bar (still running). To fix, you can double click on the game tab in the task manager or open task manager and double click on the game there. If you quit the game and your Desktop Icons don't appear do this:

Open Task Manager (Ctrl+ALT+Del)
Click on the "Processes" Tab
Under "File" select and click (New Task (Run)
Type in "explorer.exe" hit return or click OK
This should bring up your Icons again for you.

If the problem is occurring often it could be other issues with your PC.
Make sure you defrag occasionally and clean up your system. I recommend the Free version of "Glary Utilities". This is also a good utility to easily "turn off" those nuisance start up programs!

As far as your crashed hard drive, there is a software cure. It's called Selkie Rescue. It's pricey ($100) but it works. You'll need the dead PC (the crashed hard drive must be in a PC that has a CD ROM drive), a crossover (network cable), and another working laptop or PC with the software installed. I've used it, it's magic! Recovered a HD that quit (grinded to a crash) in its entirety. Of course the information on the crashed drive needs to be worth the cost (I went halves with the person that crashed their drive, provided I could keep the software). Always backup!!

I use the Free versions of SPWW2 and MBT too, retired military pay just don't allow for luxuries such as the upgrade lol. Probably should have purchased it when it was cheaper a few years ago. Anyway, I do try to support Don and Andy's work by word of mouth.

DRG · #10 May 29th, 2010, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Render

ok I'm back...

Don - I'm guessing you meant the message delay and/or animation rates? Neither fixed or changed the lag, in either direction. With or without the palette fix in place.

I am not refering to message delay or any of the in game Preferences . I am refering to the adjustments that can be made under the MISC tab of game options

Don