Bogarus Quick Guide

[Endoperez]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

A. Zmeys, even if they can't fly due to Staff of storms, (I thought I would get clever) still don't fire.
B. Zmeys, even if set on body guard, with a unit plainly in range (attacking a nearby unit) don't fire.

Bodyguards NEVER fire. EDIT: unless they're humans guarding Abysians. They they fire, but only in the "ooh, who's cooking?" sense.

Dragons set to Fire will walk forward until an enemy is in range.
I would think that the Zmey try to do the same, but for some reason never get close enough to fire. It might be due to moving very slowly when not flying, and/or their strength and thus range not being very high.

[rdonj]

Originally Posted by Endoperez

Bodyguards NEVER fire. EDIT: unless they're humans guarding Abysians. They they fire, but only in the "ooh, who's cooking?" sense.

This is not 100% true. I have seen the lions summoned by the manifest vitriol spell fire while on guard commander orders. Of course, this was during an assassination attempt so that is probably why. In normal combat no, I'm pretty sure nothing uses its ranged weapon while on guard orders.

[Endoperez]

Originally Posted by rdonj

This is not 100% true. I have seen the lions summoned by the manifest vitriol spell fire while on guard commander orders. Of course, this was during an assassination attempt so that is probably why. In normal combat no, I'm pretty sure nothing uses its ranged weapon while on guard orders.

Thanks, I had totally forgotten that.

[Reay]

I have seen the Zmey use fire breath a few times in CBM. My enemy Wokeye would have seen them too. The range is strength / 2. so about 8 squares?

I thought bodygaurds do not fire their ranged weapons? Although I could be mistaken.

[JimMorrison]

Because -during- the assassination battle, they are not under "Guard Commander" orders, they have no orders. They are set to Default, which for anything with a ranged attack (and no magic), is Fire Closest.

[Wokeye]

I can confirm I've seen Zmeys fire in my current CBM game. They were not particularly close to the action, either. Thankfully they melted a few Mictlans for me.

Seems to be a decent area of attack fireball. I can't test whether dragon master would work on them - dont have the magic POWA...

[darloth]

I have found Dragon Master sadly limited to the drakes + wyvern - all of the nation-specific draconic stuff that I've tested hasn't worked. I was really hoping Sirrush would as well.

[Endoperez]

Originally Posted by Wokeye

I can confirm I've seen Zmeys fire in my current CBM game. They were not particularly close to the action, either. Thankfully they melted a few Mictlans for me.

Seems to be a decent area of attack fireball. I can't test whether dragon master would work on them - dont have the magic POWA...

It probably won't. It doesn't work for other national "dragons" (Shirrushes), or Tarrasques, or Iron Dragons. It's more of a "drake master", actually.

[Executor]

Imprisoned S4 Oracle, Dominion 9
Order 3, Production 3, Growth 3, Cold 3, Luck 3, Magic 3

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[OmikronWarrior]

Originally Posted by Executor

Imprisoned S4 Oracle, Dominion 9
Order 3, Production 3, Growth 3, Cold 3, Luck 3, Magic 3

???????

No early expansion. Bogarus has terrible, terrible troops and really needs an awake SC to make that happen. Though, I suppose Cavalry might be able to get the job done with Production-3. Beyond that, Magic-3 is probably a waste on a nation with Starets. Bogarus is so good at research, it doesn't need any Pretender help in that regard. Finally, I see no reason to buy such a Dominion score on an imprisoned pretender. 7, or 8 at the most, is fine.