The Tank is dead

[Grant1pa]

Originally Posted by shahadi

Plus, these groups in Syria and Iraq change allegiance on a dime (or a quarter or a dollar). Point being, you give a group TOWs and next month a splinter group is using those ATGMs against us. The MRAP is short gapped.

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Rah!

Tom

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by shahadi

The thing about MRAP, we make a modification and the enemy makes stronger IED's. The cycle continues.

Plus, these groups in Syria and Iraq change allegiance on a dime (or a quarter or a dollar). Point being, you give a group TOWs and next month a splinter group is using those ATGMs against us. The MRAP is short gapped.

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Unlike civilians we need to keep in mind the MRAP is an armored truck not an APC/IFV.

It's good at what it was designed for ... patrolling roads and villages dealing with lightly armed guerillas. It was never designed, nor intended to be a front-line APC.

It's useful for getting troops near the battle, just like the truck it is.

[shahadi]

Oshkosh won the bid to replace the Humvee and produce Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) about a year ago. The whole of Northeast Wisconsin was thrilled. It's a huge contract.

So, whatever the intended mission was for the Humvee, the MRAP (Oshkosh Corp) took that over and now extends that mission considerably with the JLTV.

Now the extension to the MRAP is a hybrid if you will that can transport, protect, and fight bad guys in cities, towns, villages, and the country side. That's the big contract Oshkosh won to produce the next vehicle that as the names implies does more than transport troops to the battle (the battle is everywhere in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan.)

Oh, and the idea of A/B armor kits continues on the JLTV. So, as the idea goes, as armor protection improves, Oshkosh makes a difference bolt on A/B to counter the improvement of mines and other threats. You don't have to design a new vehicle just slap on the improved armor kit.

Anyway, should be a real hoot.

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[Suhiir]

Well we currently have the Oshkosh M-ATV which has been in service since March 2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshkosh_M-ATV
Looks like the JLTV is just a finalized production version of that.

[DRG]

If anyone finds length and width comparisons for the M-ATV vs the JLTV point me to them, I've not been able to find what I need

[luigim]

Any update on JLTV in the next patch?

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by luigim

Any update on JLTV in the next patch?

Yes for the USMC at least. As to US Army and foreign use, for the most part there are orders for and plans to but little difinative so there may be some delay till solid info is available. After all LOTS of plans and intentions never lead to actual delivery and WinSPMBT tries very hard to deal with "what is" rather then "what could be".

[shahadi]

Originally Posted by luigim

Any update on JLTV in the next patch?

Originally Posted by Suhiir

Yes for the USMC at least. As to US Army and foreign use, for the most part there are orders for and plans to but little difinative so there may be some delay till solid info is available. After all LOTS of plans and intentions never lead to actual delivery and WinSPMBT tries very hard to deal with "what is" rather then "what could be".

"Nearly four years after the Army settled on Oshkosh to produce a next-generation replacement for the troubled Humvee, a few lucky soldiers from the 1st Armored Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division are finally going to get their paws on the much-hyped Joint Light Tactical Vehicle.

On Monday, the Raider Brigaide's official Twitter account posted photos of flatbed trucks hauling the new JLTV rolling up at Fort Stewart in Georgia."

Fort Stewart, BTW is a great place. Down the road from the ATL, makes for a nice drive on a Friday evening, with "Get the Led Out" rock show on the radio! And, you ain't gotta report back until Monday 08:00.

Check out the brigade's twitter account here: https://twitter.com/1ABCT_3ID/status...374209/photo/1

[shahadi]

It Took The Army 4 Years To Field The JLTV. It Took Soldiers 4 Days To Total One



A Whole Lotta Led!

Source: Task & Purpose

[Steves308]

Reminds me of the phrase "give a 19 year old a tank and he'll wreck it on the one tree in the middle of the field"

Steve