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Old November 21st, 2011, 06:14 PM

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Utter standardisation of everything is the last thing on my mind (remember what I was like a few years back about "spotter plane syndrome"? )) There will be far too many people out there, with individual country knowledge that is far greater than mine, who have made individual adjustments/variations for very good reasons, The problem with the approach I've adopted is that it will most likely pick up the difference but not, of course, why it's occurred. That's why input like Suhiir's is so valuable.

This is why I deliberately called the thread "anomaly reports". An anomaly isn't an error, it's just something different from the norm, for whatever reason. I did suggest the odd change earlier on, if only because some things seem obvious when looking at raw data. But I'm trying now to stick to the provision of information, pure & simple.

Andy, thanks for the encouragement, I'll see the exercise through (there are times I wonder what started it off & whatever it was, can I kill it? :>)))) I certainly don't expect a line-by-line response - if the whole exercise only throws up a couple of "needs fixing" to improve an already superb game, it's been worth it.

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Old November 21st, 2011, 08:26 PM
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If you feel up to the task - then by all means carry on...

Remember to knock off at beer o'clock from time to time though!.

If it finds a few items, then it'll be worth the while.

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Lol - yes there are days when I wonder why the hell I started, but to be honest, a discipline like this prevents beer o'clock from starting waaay too early! It's one of the problems of being retired on a small island (Malta), there isn't a whole load to keep one occupied. I know, it's still nearly 70 degrees & there's always the sea to watch, where's the problem?

Onwards and upwards - infantry.

Class 1 – Infantry

France 126 has 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 11 Crew.
China 286 & 314-319 have 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 12 Crew.
Dare I mention the ‘C’ word? Canada 81, 82, 85 & 86 have 20 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Denmark 253 has 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
W.Germany 225, 226, 462 & 463 have 18 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
S.Africa 43 has 10 Weapon 3 & 10 Weapon 4 (both Hand Grenade) rounds for 11 Crew.
Croatia 66 has 10 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 7 Crew.
Nigeria 410 has 9 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 10 Crew.
Sweden 98 & 103 have 9 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Kenya 402-405 have 10 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.

Belgium 94 (Crew 10) runs concurrently with 95 (Crew 8). Neither is a template unit, nor are they X3 radio coded.
Algeria 362 (Crew 10) runs until 12/74. Other Algerian units have Crew 8 from 1/69. It is a template unit, but only for formations running to 12/68.


Class 40 – Heavy Infantry

Switzerland 295-297 have Speed 7, all others have 6.

China 635 & 636 have 4 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 3 Crew.
NVA 116-118 have 10 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.
Canada 64 & 65 have 16 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 10 Crew.
Denmark 264 and E.Germany 98-100 have 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Switzerland 119 has 16 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 11 Crew.
Switzerland 120, 302-308 & 519 have 16 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 11 Crew.

Poland 323 (Crew 10) runs until 12/87. Other Polish units have Crew 8 from 1/80. It is not a template or X3-coded unit.
Czech 323 is similar to Poland 323.
Switzerland 295-298 are 9-man, non-template units that run concurrently with some of the other 11-man units.

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More infantry

Class 51 – Light Infantry

Afghanistan 415-417 and Ethiopia 417 have Load Cost 25, others have 0. They are also Size 2 and have Sound 222, even though they are dismounted.

Afghanistan 415 & 417 and Denmark 262 have 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Afghanistan 416 has 20 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Netherlands 205 & 206 have 12 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 5 Crew.
Netherlands 207 has 8 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 5 Crew.
Canada 92, 93, 96 & 97 have 14 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Canada 94 & 98 have 20 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
W.Germany 216 & 218 have 16 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 6 Crew.
W.Germany 214 & 215 have 16 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 7 Crew.
W.Germany 212 has 18 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Austria 200 has 5 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 10 Crew.
Viet Cong 265 has 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.


Class 55 – HQ

Viet Cong 244 & 245 have 4 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 6 Crew.

Japan 245 and Switzerland 244 & 245 also have ‘odd numbers’ of grenades but along with Switzerland 243, they are the only units to carry a third weapon. From what has been done with the Swiss oob, I suspect detailed in-country knowledge.


Class 64 – Medium Infantry

Nigeria 565 & 566 have Speed 7, all others have 6.

ARVN 215 has 20 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.
Canada 104 has 14 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Denmark 263 has 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
W.Germany 600-603 have 18 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 10 Crew.

Nigeria has 2 9-man (565 & 566) and 2 3-man (462 & 463) units running concurrently. 565 is a template unit, but none is X3 coded. A human will know which to pick for the different formations, but what about the AI?


Class 65 – LMG Section

China 350-355 have Speed 5, all others have 6 (even with 2 LMG & 4 Crew).

China 350-355, Cuba 540-543 and Rhodesia 24 have FC and Rangefinder 1, all others have 0/0. My understanding is that this only applies to MMG & HMG.

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Yet more infantry.

Class 66 – SMG Section

Norway 182 has Load Cost 1, all others have 0. It also has Speed 5, others have 6 or 7.


Class 67 – Rifle Section

Algeria 352 (Crew 10) runs partly concurrently with 353 (Crew 8). The units are similarly armed, although they have different radio chances.


Class 160 – Reserve Infantry

Poland 882 & 883 have 10 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 12 Crew.
China 424-426 have 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 12 Crew.
N.Korea 360-364 and Cambodia 360 & 362 have 12 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.
Taiwan 330 has 24 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 10 Crew.
Canada 436 & 437 have 10 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Yugoslavia 84 has 10 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 7 Crew.
Sweden 480 has 4 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 12 Crew. Postwar rationing maybe.
Sweden 481 & 483 have 10 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 12 Crew.

Yugoslavia 86 (Crew 10) runs until 12/65, partly concurrently with 2 7-man units (84 & 87). It is not a template unit, and is not X3 coded.


Class 161 – Reserve Support

Norway 169-172 have Speed 5, all others have 6.


Class 226 – COIN Heavy Infantry

Rhodesia 30 has Speed 8, standard is 6 or 7. It also has 10 men, and runs concurrently with 190 & 191, which are both 5-man units. None of them is X3-coded.

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Class 2 – Infantry AT

57mm M18 RCL – Green 102 is Size 1, all others are 0.
France 113, Green 102 & Thailand 70 have Crew 3, Mujahadeen 174 has 4, all others have 2. Green 102 also has 3 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.
Lebanon 117 has Speed 4, all others have 6.
Mujahadeen 174 has Load Cost 1, all others have 0.
Brazil 102 & Thailand 70 have FC & Rangefinder 1, all others have 0/0.

75mm M20 RCL – Japan 143, Green 103, Chile 103, Lebanon 118 and Indonesia 105 & 107 are Size 1, which leaves a small majority as Size 0. Having used one of these in the Obong-Ni Ridge scenario, I’d want to be Size 0!
Green 103 has Crew 3, France 114 & Mujahadeen 176 have 4, all others have 2.
Lebanon 118 has Speed 3, all others have 6.
Mujahadeen 176 has Load Cost 1, Viet Cong 63 (Type 56) has 2, all others have 0.
Brazil 103 has FC & Rangefinder 1, all others have 0/0.

90mm M67 RCL – Green 104 has Size 1 & Crew 3, Mujahadeen 179 has Crew 4, all others have 0/2.
Mujahadeen 179 has Load Cost 1, all others have 0.
Portugal 72 has FC & Rangefinder 1, all others have 0/0.

Alcotan 100 – Spain 472 has a typo, the weapon has the correct name.

Apilas – Taiwan 484 has FC & Rangefinder 0/0, others have 3/1.

AT-3 Sagger – Viet Cong 69 has FC & Rangefinder 1, others have 0/0.

AT4 LAW – UK 236 has RoF 6, all others have 7.

B-10 82mm RCL – Mujahadeen 177 has Crew 4, all others have 2.
Uganda 111 has Speed 4, all others have 6.
Mujahadeen 177 & Eritrea 111 have Load Cost 1, all others have 0.

Boyes ATR – Sudan 320 has Size 1, all others have 0.

Carl Gustav 84mm – Green 108 has Crew 3, all others have 2.
Denmark 315 & 316 have Load Cost 1, all others have 0. They also have FC 1 and Rangefinder 1 (see below).
W.Germany 199 and Malaysia 183 & 184 have FC & Rangefinder 1, India 306 & 307, S.Yemen 323 & 324 and N.Yemen 325 have 2, all others have 0/0.
Spain 471, Italy 449 & Austria 60 have RoF 6, all others have 7.

Dragon ATGM – Iran 379 has Load Cost 1, all others have 0.

Instalaza M65 – Uruguay 97 has RoF 6, all others have 7.

LAW-80 – UK 223 has RoF 6, others (in other classes) have 7.

LRAC F1 – Cyprus 215 has RoF 6, all others have 7.

M9/M9A1 Bazooka – Mujahadeen 172 has Crew 4, all others have 2.
Indonesia 100 has Load Cost 1, all others have 0.
Egypt 107 & ARVN 200 have RoF 6, others have 7.

M20 Super Bazooka – Mujahadeen 173 has 4 Crew, Gulf 321 has 3, all others have 2.
Denmark 311 and Indonesia 101 & 102 have Load Cost 1, all others have 0.

M72 LAW – Green 105 has Crew 3, Nigeria 111 has 4, all others have 2.
Nigeria 498 has Speed 4, all others have 6.
Denmark 312 & 313 have Load Cost 1, all others have 0.

M79 Osa – Yugoslavia 208 has Size 0, Croatia 208 has Size 1.

Metis ATGW – Chechnya 21 & 22 have Crew 3, all others have 2.

Milan – Belgium 77 & 78 have Speed 5, all others have 6. They also have RoF 5, all others have 4.

Panzerfaust 3 – Japan 153 has Crew 3 & Speed 4, all others have 2/6.
Japan 153 has RoF 4, Netherlands 186, S.Korea 484 & Italy 448 have 7, all others have 6.

Panzerfaust 44 – W.Germany 205 has RoF 6, Italy 447 has 7.

Panzerschreck – Romania 290 has Crew 2 & Speed 6, Bulgaria 280 has Crew 3 & Speed 7. Standard from WW2 appears to be the same as the Romanian figures.

PIAT – Denmark 310 has Crew 3, Malaysia 180 has 4, all others have 2. Denmark 310 also has Load Cost 1, all others have 0.
Egypt 106 & Jordan 178 have RoF 6, all others have 7.

PTRD ATR – Mujahadeen 169 has Crew 3, all others have 2.

RPG-2 – Red 22 has Crew 3, all others have 2. It also has 6 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.
Mozambique 463 has RoF 8, all others have 7.

RPG-7 – Green 106, Red 24 & Chechnya 18 have Crew 3, Afghanistan 177 has 4, all others have 2. Red 24 & Chechnya 18 also have 6 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.
Indonesia 103 & Rhodesia 100 have Load Cost 1, all others have 0.
S.Africa 56 & 57 have RoF 9, Mozambique 485 has 8, all others have 7.
Mozambique 485 has 50 AP rounds for Weapon 1 (RPG), standard loadout is 6 HEAT.
PLO 151 (Nader) has Speed 5 & RoF 6, all others have 6/7.

RPG-7V – Czech 212 is Size 1, all others 0.
Green 107, Red 27 & Chechnya 20 have 3 Crew, Mujahadeen 181 & Afghan 178 have 4, all others have 2. Red 27 & Chechnya 20 also have 6 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.
E.Germany 475, Green 107, Cuba 104 & Nicaragua 104 have RoF 7, all others have 6.

RPG-16 – Mujahadeen 168 & Afghanistan 179 have Crew 4, others have 2.

RPG-18 – Afghanistan 180 has Crew 4, all others have 2.
Syria 218 & Greece 202 have RoF 6, standard for a RPG is 7.

Saghegh RPG – PLO 150 has RoF 6, others have 7.

SPG-9 – Mujahadeen 175 has Crew 4, all others have 2. It also has Load Cost, FC & Rangefinder 1, others have 0/0/0.

Type 56 RPG – Cambodia 287 has Crew 3, all others have 2.

Type 69 RPG – Cambodia 288 has Crew 3, all others have 2.

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More infantry AT in various guises.

Class 142 – Para Infantry AT

All the UK (386, 387, 392-399, 402, 410) and Thai (402-407) units have a Swim Speed. I’m not sure I’d fancy a dip with 15 kilos of Vigilant on my back . . . . . .

UK 392-399 have 3 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds with 2 Crew.

Israel 530 and Indonesian units (542-545) have Load Cost 1, all others have 0.

Belgium 544 has 10 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 4 Crew.

57mm M18 RCL – France 316 has Crew 3, standard is 2. It also has 3 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.

75mm M20 RCL – France 317 has Crew 4, standard is 2.

AT-4 Fagot – Russia 693 has Crew 2, standard is 3.

Blindicide 83mm – Belgium 546 has Crew 4, standard is 2.

Carl Gustav – UK 396 & 397 and Malaysia 360 & 361 have RoF 6, standard is 7.

Dragon ATGW – Thailand 406 & 407 have Size 0 & RoF 9, standards are 1/4.

Javelin – UK 386 has Size 1, others have 0.
Australia 500 has RoF 9, standard is 4.

M9/M9A1 Bazooka – Egypt 221 & Indonesia 543 have RoF 6, standard is 7.

M20 Super Bazooka – Israel 525 & Thailand 403 have Crew 3, Belgium 545 has 4, standard is 2.
Thailand 403 has RoF 9, Indonesia 542 & 544 have 6, standard is 7.
Thailand 403 has 9 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.

M72 LAW – Thailand 404 & 405 have Crew 3, standard is 2. They also have RoF 9 (standard is 7) and 9 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds
Argentina 488 has 3 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 2 Crew.

Metis ATGW – E.Germany 473 has Crew 3, standard is 2. It also has 6 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.

Milan – Belgium 547 & 548 have Speed 5 & RoF 5, standard is 6/4. They also have 8 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 3 Crew.

RPG-2 – Russia 456 has RoF 4, standard is 7.

RPG-7 – Russia 457 has RoF 4, standard is 7.

RPG-7V – Russia 458 has RoF 4, E.Germany 472 has 7, standard is 6.

RPG-16 – Ukraine 463 has Crew 3, standard is 2.

Spike – Israel 530 has 2 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 3 Crew.


Class 146 – Commando Infantry AT

Belgium 504 has 10 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 4 Crew.

Javelin – Australia 527 has RoF 9, standard is 4.

M9/M9A1 Bazooka – Norway 438 has Crew 4, standard is 2.

M20 Bazooka – USA 966 has RoF 6, standard is 7.

Molotov – Green 590 has RoF 6, other Molotov teams (in other classes) have 9.

RPG-7V – E.Germany 469 has RoF 7, standard is 6.


Class 165 – Ski Infantry AT

France 382-384 & 402 have RoF 9, standard for all is 7.

Carl Gustav 84mm – Sweden 169 has Crew 3, Sweden 170-173 have 4, standard is 2.

M79 Osa – Croatia 210 has Size 1, standard in other classes is 0.

PIAT – Norway 440 has Crew 3, standard is 2.

Satchel Charge – Sweden 148 has RoF 9, standard in other classes is 4.

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Switzerland 295-297 have Speed 7, all others have 6.

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Helicopters - eek! Given the number of different marks of a helo like the UH-1, there is plenty of potential here for slipping on a banana skin. I have therefore tried not to highlight small variations in speed (some smart ground crew person will always try & squeeze the odd knot or 2), carry capacity etc. I have indicated units where there are differences in capabilities that have a 1-6 range (survivability, stabilisers etc), or where the majority of similar units says one thing and the 'odd man/men out' say different.

Class 53 – Helicopter. By country of manufacturer, then alphabetically by manufacturer, and then by year of manufacture.

Aerospatiale SA.330 Puma – Gulf 562, Turkey 501 & Peru 530 have Survivability 4, Ethiopia 122 has 0, others have 3.
France 517, UK 574, Pakistan 420, Romania 124 and Brazil 122 have Stabiliser 0, even though they are armed.

AS.332 Super Puma – Gulf 566, Greece 519, Argentina 533 & Thailand 498 have Survivability 4, which leaves a narrow majority with 3.
Gulf 566 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.
Indonesia 120 has ‘Steel HF’ 10, standard is 12.

AS.532 Cougar – Greece 520 has Speed 86, standard is 93 or 108. It also has ‘Steel HF’ 10, all others have 12.
Jordan 109, Green 124, Brazil 123 and Saudi 532 have Survivability 3, others have 4.
France 516, Netherlands 514, Turkey 502 and Brazil 123 have Stabiliser 0, Jordan 109 has 2, standard is 4.
France 516 & 519, Netherlands 514 and Turkey 502 have ‘Steel HF’ 10. Standard even for the AS.332 is 12, and the Cougar is a developed version.
Albania 132 is called “AS-350B2”, which relates to the Ecureuil light helo; however, the stats and .lbm are those of the Cougar. According to SIPRA, 5 AS.532 Cougars were delivered in 2009. Dates for the unit are 1/79 – 12/105; these dates are covered by other units in the oob.
Conversely, Cambodia 123 also has the stats and .lbm of an AS.532, although it is also called “AS-350”. Again according to SIPRA, Cambodia has had no Pumas of any mark, but 2 AS.350 Ecureuils were probably delivered in 1993. In the game, all AS.350 are classed as Light Helos; this would not affect Cambodian formations.

EH-101 Merlin – Portugal 281 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 3.

Agusta A.109 – Sweden 586 has Size 3, standard (in Class 204) is 2. It also has Speed 94 (standard is 104) and Steel HF 4 (standard is 9).

Mil Mi-1 – Mujahadeen 116 is Size 3, standard (in Class 204) is 2. It also has Speed 76 (standard is 67) and Survivability 3 (standard is 1).

Mil Mi-4 (and derivatives) – Russia 312 has Survivability 0, standard is 4.
NVA 226 has FC 4, Rangefinder 4 and Stabiliser 2, although it is unarmed.
Cuba 130 has Stabiliser 2, although unarmed.
Finland 146 has Stabiliser 0, Uganda 136 has 3, standard for armed versions is 2.
China 115 has ‘Steel HF’ 4, Green 125 has 5, standard is 6.

Mil Mi-8 – Russia 315-318 & 355 have Survivability 0, standard is 4.
Finland 145 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.

Mil Mi-17 – PLO 232 has Stabiliser 2, Czech 117 has 0, standard is 4.

Mil Mi-2 - Figures are correct.

Mil Mi-14 – Poland 968 has Swim Speed 1, one of only 2 helicopters to have this ability. I’m dubious, if only because helicopters don’t taxi in the same way as fixed-wing aircraft and although the Mi-14 is built to land on water, I have never seen either a photo or a report to suggest that it can move on it in a controlled manner. It also has ‘Steel HS’ 0, standard is 1.

Westland Wessex – Iraq 112, Nigeria 131, S.Yemen 115 & Uruguay 277 have Survivability 4, others have 3.

Westland Lynx – UK 573 & 576 have Stabiliser 0, even though armed. Standard for the armed version is 5.

Bell 204/205 Series – Norway 254 & 255 have Survivability 2, Israel 262, Iran 270, Netherlands 506 & W.Germany 332 have 3, standard is 4.
Of the armed versions, Jordan 107, China 119, Netherlands 506, Turkey 494 & 495, Spain 503 & W.Germany 332 have Stabiliser 2; Greece 507 & 515, Austria 117, Uruguay 285 & Paraguay 288 have 4, standard is 3.
Iran 270 and Canada 412 & 413 have Stabiliser 0, although all are armed.
Cambodia 117, Chile 122 & Peru 117 have Stabiliser 3, Israel 262 has 2, although all are unarmed.
Jordan 107, Iran 270, S.Korea 105 & 107, Taiwan 107, Norway 254 & 255, Spain 503, Ethiopia 110 & 112 and Lebanon 137 & 138 have ‘Steel HF’ 4, standard is 6.
Just a small suggestion: Japan 351, Iran 270, S.Korea 105, Spain 503, Chile 122 and Indonesia 125 (covering various marks) all have Speed 80, which equates to 150 mph. My sources (‘Aircraft of the USAF’ in the Putnam series, various Janes editions etc) suggest that 138 mph is about top whack for a standard Huey, which equates to Speed 75, which is pretty much an average in the game.

Bell 212 – Israel 264, Iran 272 & Norway 590 have Survivability 3, others have 4.
Sweden 585 has Speed 75, standard is 83-86. It also has ‘Steel HF’ 0, standard is 6.

Bell 214 – Norway 591 & Peru 532 have Speed 99, all others have 90.
Iran 273, Thailand 503 and Ecuador 517 have Stabiliser 4, standard for the ‘family’ is 3. They also have ‘Steel HF’ 7, standard is 6.

Bell 412 – Cyprus 150, Brazil 119, Chile 120 & Indonesia 272 have Speed 62, standard is 87.
Norway 256 has Survivability 3, Netherlands 509 has 5, all others have 4.
Netherlands 509 has Stabiliser 2, all other armed versions have 3.
Green 120, Nigeria 135, Finland 148, Zimbabwe 116, Eritrea 127 and Uganda 147 & 148 have RoF 6, standard for MG-armed helos is 9.
Norway 256 has ‘Steel HF’ 4, the 4 with Speed 62 have 8 (maybe the reason for the reduced speed?), all others have 6.

Boeing-Vertol CH-47 Chinook – Taiwan 108 & 109, Netherlands 513 & Turkey 513 have Speed 88, standard is 100.
Netherlands 513 & Turkey 513 have Stabiliser 4, although unarmed.

Sikorsky S-55/H-19/Westland Whirlwind – There is a narrow majority (15:14) with Size 3. The H-19 is a similar size to the SA.330 Puma (slightly larger main rotor, slightly shorter body), all of which are Size 3.
The Size 4 units are:- Israel 260, France 502, UK 528, USA 288, Taiwan 105, Pakistan 399, Belgium 200, Canada 408, Greece 511, Turkey 493, Yugoslavia 120, Chile 121, Nigeria 130 & Malaysia 320.
Austria 119 & Ecuador 124 have Stabiliser 4 (they are unarmed), all others have 0.
Survivability is mixed, to say the least. Israel 260, Taiwan 105, ARVN 85, Pakistan 399, Belgium 200, Greece 511, Turkey 493, Thailand 495 & Cambodia 120 have 2; France 502, UK 528, Jordan 105, Iran 260, USA 288, USMC 158, Canada 408, Denmark 115, Brazil 116, Chile 121, Nigeria 130 & Malaysia 320 have 3; Japan 344, Yugoslavia 120, Green 118, Argentina 528, Austria 119, Thailand 494, Indonesia 116 & Ecuador 124 have 4.
Likewise, the Steel HF figure is very variable:- Israel 260, France 502, Taiwan 105, Pakistan 399, Belgium 200, Greece 511, Turkey 493 & Thailand 495 have 3; Green 118, Austria 119 & Ecuador 124 have 4; Japan 344 & Jordan 105 have 6; UK 528, Canada 408, Yugoslavia 120, Nigeria 130 & Malaysia 320 have 8; Iran 260 & Denmark 115 have 10, and the remainder have 5.
I’d be tempted to go for Survivability 3 & HF 5, as the H-34 standard is 3/6.

Sikorsky S-58/H-34 – Sudan 111 is Size 3, all others are 4. It also has Stabiliser 2, although unarmed.
Iran 268, Taiwan 104, Pakistan 407, Belgium 201 and W.Germany 325 & 326 have Survivability 2, Italy 491 has 4, standard is 3.
Netherlands 508 has Stabiliser 0, although it is armed.
Iran 268, Thailand 496 & 497, Chad 226 & Uruguay 275 have ‘Steel HF’ 5, Sudan 111 has 4, standard is 6.

Sikorsky S-61/Westland Sea King – UK 532, 536 & 575 have Survivability 3, all others have 4.
UK 575 has Stabiliser 0, standard for the armed version is 4.
Belgium 199 has Stabiliser 4, although unarmed.
UK 532 & Malaysia 324 have ‘Steel HF’ 12, standard is 14.

Sikorsky UH-60/S-70 – Turkey 496, 499 & 500 have Speed 80, standard is 99.
Argentina 536 has Lift Capacity 114, all others have 214.
Gulf 568 and S.Korea 111 & 112 have Stabiliser 2, Israel 265 has 3, standard is 4.
Israel 265 & Brazil 124 have Armour 10/2/2/2/2/2/0, Green 119 & Brazil 125 have 12/4/2/2/2/2/0 – I didn’t think this worked with helicopters.
Chile 128 has Armour 12/4, standard is 10/2.

Vertol H 21 – France 510 is listed as this, although it has most of the stats of a CH-34. France had both types, so it’s an interesting one. Every other H-21 in the game is Heavy Helo class and has a Steel HF figure of 12 (this unit has 5). The relevant formations in the oob are covered by other units.

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Mil Mi-1 – Mujahadeen 116 is Size 3, standard (in Class 204) is 2. It also has Speed 76 (standard is 67) and Survivability 3 (standard is 1).
It's overstated anyway. Russian and Polish sources all say max speed was 170 km/h - some 57.

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Mil Mi-14 – Poland 968 has Swim Speed 1, one of only 2 helicopters to have this ability. I’m dubious, if only because helicopters don’t taxi in the same way as fixed-wing aircraft and although the Mi-14 is built to land on water, I have never seen either a photo or a report to suggest that it can move on it in a controlled manner.
You're probably right. Besides, this unit is of dubious use - it's specialized ASW or SAR helicopter, not seen upon land normally - and it shouldn't be armed with anything but torpedoes (it has 12.7 DShK)

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