International Defence Green and White Papers

[DRG]

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-coun.../32028687.html

And while credit has been given to the tenacity of their soldiers, Ukrainians have also benefited from a firehose of powerful Western weaponry: U.S. long-range HIMARS artillery systems, M777 howitzers, high-speed anti-radiation missiles, French-made Caesar howitzers, and German-made Panzerhaubitze self-propelled artillery.

That has allowed the Ukrainians to fire, with pinpoint precision, at targets -- for example, bridges over the Dnieper River or command posts in the Kharkiv and Luhansk regions -- from distances harder for Russian artillery to reach.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Well, it appears "Operation Deception"-Mine has thus far been a rousing success. According to the following article (Atlantic is a well-respected publication.) this was a well-planned operation and held close for quite some time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...pyansk/671407/

The rest is further follow-up on Germany. Germany will and does hold the key to the heavy armor situation when it comes to the Ukraine getting Western tanks. We also do to a lesser extent but I'm not seeing happening at our end any time soon.

It'll take Germany to make the first move then maybe others will follow suit. By progression.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...idgelayer.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...o_ukraine.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...aine_army.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...st/ar-AA11PH73

Regards,
Pat

[Karagin]

Yeah, going to disagree with you on your stand on the Atlantic. I would trust the National Enquire before trusting them.

The rest is though is interesting.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by DRG

That bridge from Crimea to Russia has been an obvious target from the start and I've thought that Ukraine must be waiting for just the right moment to render it unusable.

Timing is everything...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY VLADIMIR

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/bre...ns-Russia.html


Now, this raises a question......... WHY would there be a Ukrainian Truck allowed on the bridge ?..........IF indeed it was a "Ukrainian Truck"

EDIT 1
This could have just been a simple accident on the bridge that is being spun into a " Ukrainian Terrorist incident"...........if one of your ammo trucks blew up and rendered a critical supply route impassible would you blame your own people or the "enemy" ?

EDIT 2

OTOH.........

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/08/europ...osion-intl-hnk

Mute the talking heads and watch what happens between 10 and :13 seconds

It does not appear the explosion originated ON the bridge. It APPEARS to come from the right side under the bridge

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE "PI"!!

FOR NAVY IT WAS A "SAILORS PARADISE"!!

To more serious business we are GOING back for different reasons...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...84ce3665&ei=18

Regards,
Pat

[Suhiir]

Hey!
I rather liked Subic Bay.
And Olongapo was certainly an "experience".

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Well, I guess this will be my own "White Paper".

So far, the North Koreans are still in Russia and possibly be moving into Russian occupied territory in the Ukraine. It has already been confirmed that North Korean officers are training and getting the "lay of the land" in those occupied areas.

It is my belief IF the decision is made to use the NK troops I feel the blow will come from one of two directions...

1) An attack from the SE side of the KURSK Salient with the attack both to break the salient and with a strong task force to get behind/under the salient to cut off the retreat/or force it to occur with the mission to capture or destroy as much of the Ukrainian forces there.

2 With the current Russian offensive underway another option is to support a further offensive on the part of Russia to break the salient, that the NK to commit all their forces to either envelop the salient or cross the border to take Ukrainian territory adjacent to the salient to take territory but more importantly engage the Ukrainian forces protecting the Eastern flank of the border and salient. In this case it would not allow for reinforcements from that direction but more importantly force the Ukraine to make some hard decisions on how to allocate their limited forces.

3 I would think a "feint" in strength of a couple of divisions (Or more.) 200 - 300 miles further to the SE along the current battle front a week or so before the two above might draw off some Ukrainian forces from the above area. The 43rd Mech. Brigade can't be everywhere.

This is a race against time at best those forces if used for such an attack need to do it in less than two months before the weather turns everything to mud.

Not all is lost as the Ukraine will be getting almost two fully trained divisions notably from France along with Poland and I believe maybe Belgium or Denmark. They will arrive home fully equipped in transit (France) or be "mated up" with prepositioned equipment.

Whatever the case the "clock is ticking".

Why am I doing this? Just ask yourself when the last time in the modern era in a major operation sent infantry into action without its artillery.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/focu...cket-launchers
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...oop-deployment

South Korea is now a player they have by now sent a team of military and intelligence advisors into the Ukraine. Also, they are not ruling out direct military equipment aid to the Ukrainians. South Korea is seeing this as a "redline" which could destabilize the peninsula if not confronted in the Ukraine.

Poland they've been on "higher level" of alert.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...russian-border

Up to 10 to 15K troops are still believed to be on the border with Belarus the following is for context and does a good job to explain why.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66410230

Back to my "Sat." off.

Regards,
Pat

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Well, this time I have a "Green Paper" I'm so thankful that Russia has such overwhelming pride in their Navy. Afterall if not for the Navy, Communist Russia might never have come into existence. It certainly has been debated on and off since its inception.

So, what has that "pride" got them? Well with what they've spent on the following I'll suggest it has cost them the finances to fix the problems with the T-14 ARMATA and Su-57 FALON for starters and around 4 highly modern and battle capable destroyers or since Russia likes their bigger "show the flag" type ships 2 maybe 3 Cruisers.

I fully agree with this article that the sanctions in place before the invasion and since are having an effect on their military. Some might remember I posted a couple of articles of "advanced" Russian jets shot down with store bought compasses mounted in the cockpits you can buy at Walmart at the beginning of the war.

The Admiral Nakhimov is certainly the "poster child" for corruption, inefficiency and again pride as displayed also by the above two other projects as well.

So, I say in the highest tradition of the Navy "Carry on! ".

I've seen this ship "somewhere" and in their prime they were "Bad Asx" deserving of a cruise missile strike or spread of four Mk 48's if you can get into range to fire them. But that wouldn't make for a "fun day" though.

The second picture as you scroll down clearly shows forward of the super structure the various missile tubes it has. That's a "world of hurt" and back in the 80'S she probably carried some to use our terminology TLAM-N cruise missiles.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...6d1516e&ei=44#

Somewhat declassified now I see. Had a couple of guys who were on there but typical for us, they never talked about what and where they were.
As you might notice in the below ref., we all understood this possibility existed another reason we are all volunteers.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...ct-mode-208424

Regards,
Pat