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Old August 30th, 2004, 09:02 PM
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it is a language thing .

Sorry, it's not. It's a thing of education.

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die see = the lake
you chose the femine variant die though a lake is of no gender .

So you're one of the reasons of the Pisa-results. "Die See" = the sea. The lake = "der See". There's a difference in there, and the right pronoun is rather important.

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in german das nataraja sounds stupid .
der nataraja and die nataraja sound both stupid too but die nataraja is probably the best chose for the 3 lol
Please consider yourself a Christian for a moment. Now imagine some noob in some forum goes calling Jesus Christ "daughter of god", because her name sounds stupid for a male in his native language.



I'm german, and the arrogance and lack of respect for other cultures and Languages shown by some germans (among others) always tics me off.

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oh with der see and die see you are right karacan

i am not bad educated though . at least i made my abitur without much effort
i just never showed liking for the subject DEUTSCH .
and in the internet i don't care too much about capitalization and punctuation .

i am a christian and believe in god but i would see someone foreign calling jesus die jesus not too bad he just doesn't know better .
and humorous films about religion like southpark , dogma and life of brian i like very much too .


i find it rather funny though that nobody seems to have interest in the main part of my message that the nataraja is a good pretender too and instead just almost flaming me because i gave it a female pronoun instead of a male one half because i found it funny and half because i didn't care and didn't think someone might care if i use him or her for a few pixels anyway .


in german der and die nataraja sound both ****ty though .


but to judge ones education only with his ability to speak his mother language perfect is a bit too one-sided .
hey i am no second Wolfgang von Goethe .

i guess you are better in Deutsch as me karacan but probably i would beat you in history knowlegde e.g. i guess
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Old August 30th, 2004, 09:20 PM
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and in the internet i don't care too much about capitalization and punctuation .

In other words, you don't have enough respect for the people you're communicating with to make an effort. When someone writes sloppily, readers tend to equate the content with the form - ie, both are viewed as sloppy.

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i find it rather funny though that nobody seems to have interest in the main part of my message that the nataraja is a good pretender too ...
Perhaps because no one found that surprising or noteworthy? The nataraja has been viewed as _such_ a good pretender that there was a campaign to nerf it not all that long ago, on the premise that the nataraja was _the_ ultimate pretender and none of the others were competitive.

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but to judge ones education only with his ability to speak his mother language perfect is a bit too one-sided .

When all the people _have_ is your written words, what else are they supposed to judge you on?
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Old August 30th, 2004, 09:47 PM
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and in the internet i don't care too much about capitalization and punctuation .

In other words, you don't have enough respect for the people you're communicating with to make an effort. When someone writes sloppily, readers tend to equate the content with the form - ie, both are viewed as sloppy.

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but to judge ones education only with his ability to speak his mother language perfect is a bit too one-sided .

When all the people _have_ is your written words, what else are they supposed to judge you on?
your second point is somewhat true .
but normally when posting something in the internet almost nobody cares about punctuation and capitalization .
in germany we get drilled long enough with this [censored] in school .
since i get no marks if i care too much about capitalization/punctuation etc. when i post something in the internet and since you can post faster with leaving this rules away without damaging the content of your post so why should i care about capitalization etc. ?

as long as i don't study linguistics in university even the professors don't care too much about orthography too .

hey i don't try to write a novel but just a discussion lol


most of you have the blessing being americans . but now in german we decide about a new orthography reform and still nobody is sure if they should do it or not .
so since we were really overdrilled with this crap in school at least i am perhaps especially sloppy there .


but einstein e.g. didn't win his nobelprize for writing perfect orthography but for his discoveries .
not that i am einstein i just wanted to give a good example how unimportant "overperfect" language is as long as you are no politician or a talkmaster .
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Old August 30th, 2004, 10:13 PM
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Boron,

Writing easy-to-read Messages serves several purposes:

1. It helps to give others the impression that you have some sort of education. Perhaps you don't care if you appear uncultured?

2. It engenders appreciation by those that don't have to strain their eyes trying to read and interpret the stuff you write. Perhaps you don't care about how much effort others have to go through to read your stuff?

3. It's polite. Perhaps you don't mind being thoughtless and inconsiderate?

If you make it needlessly hard for others to read what you write, just because you are lazy and/or indifferent, people will stop trying to do so. Then who will you argue with? I'm just about at this point myself. Reading your Posts is more trouble than the content is worth.
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Hey boron, could you take your turn in hard_slog instead of arguing about punctuation?
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in german der and die nataraja sound both ****ty though .
Would you say "der Tanzkönig" or "die Tanzkönig"?
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