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Double blessing can work - in fact, I think it's fairly viable with Jotuns.  Niefelheim though - can't remember if they still get the Jotun Woodsmen, and the Niefel giants are pretty expensive to build a strategy around (especially as they're capitol only, as are the Woodsmen).  When you go so heavy on a bless strategy, it doesn't make sense to build all that many non-blessed troops....
 
And if your troops were routing frequently, it doesn't sound like you centered it around the woodsmen / Niefels, since once blessed they wouldn't have routed.  (You _were_ blessing them, right?     )
 
Also, Earth Momma doesn't go particularly well with Jotunheim, imo - her fatigue climbs _way_ too fast, since she isn't comfortable in the cold.  Personally, I think Nature/Water works better with Jotunheim; possibly Nature/Fire, or Nature/Air (protection from all those nasty crossbows).
 
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 Hello archaeolept. I saw your dragon in action, he was impressive. 
 
But I was really amazed when I tried to count how much a fire 9 astral 9 dragon costs. Urgh. 
I would never have guts to pay so much for the pretender.
 
Care to share your scales?   
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		yah, you need truly atrocious scales for something like that.  really, w/ zen's scale mod included such ultradragons will cease to be viable, i think.  but i'm a fan of pushing bless strats when the opportunity arises.  hell, when i encountered thufir's super cyclops (A4E8N3), 140 hp 30 prot mistform mirror image 14 regen, i only lost 110 gold in troops taking him down... 
 
the scales are so bad i was trying to avoid spreading dominion, until i started to risk dominion death - i think it was around turn 20 i was down to a combined total of 7 pts of existing dominion in the world... :O 
 
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		Yes, Niefel still gets woodsman troops, woodsman scouts (commanders), Jotun Jarls (different from Niefel Jarls) and Jotun Godes.  Plus Niefel Jarls and Niefel giants.  Lots of good bless troops!  I really like the Woodsman Scouts.  They cost no more than Woodsmen -- 50 gold, 11 resources -- and they are stealthy commanders with javelins. 
 
They *were* blessed, but the routed because all units were either commanders or bodyguards, and one unit was killed.  :-P 
 
As to which blessings to get, I searched all of the Jotunheim pretenders to see if I could get two reasonable blessings for the cheapest price in points.  Earth Mother Nature+Earth was the cheapest.  I would take any pair of blessings made up of Earth, Fire, Water, Nature, Blood and Astral, except not Astral+Nature. 
 
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		I don't mind playing this one slow.  But would like to get a **Turn Hosting** note on this board so I don't have to check the IP day after day... 
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		Sorry, 
 
I'll log in when I get off work... about 12 hours or so, and get my turn in.  I just kind of got used to the game not moving. 
 
 
 
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		Is this game dead yet? 
Hehe. 
Every week we do like a turn.  Lets take a vote to decide if the game will continue. 
Ulm 
Rylah 
Mictlan-Continue 48 Fixed host 
Pan- Continue 48 Hr fixed host 
Emor- Continue 48HR quick 
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