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Renegade 13 · #1 April 5th, 2005, 12:52 PM

Getting back to the subject...

I really don't want to step on any toes here, or offend anyone, but...I really can't see what all the fuss is about. I mean, I'm not a religious person at all, so the whole idea of the pope being God's chosen representative on Earth...well since I'm not religious, you can already see what I think of that. He was just a man! And even if he was God's representative on Earth, he was still just a man. People would be focussing too much on the man, and not enough on what he's supposed to represent. People who don't even know him, crying? Why? Sure, it is sad anytime a good man dies, which I have no doubt the Pope was. But my great-grandfather was a good man too, did people around the world cry for him when he died?

I simply don't understand it. I hope no one gets offended that I've voiced my opinion on the subject. I wasn't sure if I should, but I believe everyone here is mature enough to respect other's opinions.

TurinTurambar · #2 April 5th, 2005, 01:05 PM

Your opinion is noted. Some people are affected by it however, and so their opinions are duly noted as well, having been the ones who started this thread.

Turin

OT: Trying to start some new character mayhem in the Bar&Grill btw. Stop by.

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Atrocities · #3 April 5th, 2005, 01:12 PM

Religion divides people, faith brings them together. This I believe and firmly adhere too. I respect those who choose to buy into a any regilion, and I believe that it is their right to worship their religion over just having faith in the the belief of God if they so choose.

I personally am not at all bothered by the Pope's death, however, I do hope they give him a nice send off for all those years he had to go without a women or a little boy to keep him company.

I have often wondered how many bodies are buided under that little country.....and of what age they are?

Strategia_In_Ultima · #4 April 4th, 2005, 06:41 AM

I'm not a believer in any God or Creator, but still I want to express my sympathies. The poor man seemed like a kind caring person, and I respected him greatly. May he rest in peace.

Frederick_d_Ohlmann · #5 April 4th, 2005, 06:54 AM

In my opinion his death a good event for two reason :
_he stop suffer
_he will no more be manipulated by others. I can't think that he was really taking any decision.

Intimidator · #6 April 4th, 2005, 07:43 AM

I agree with Dogscoff and Frederick......
I really felt sorry for that man the last year. Really, really sick as he was, but still on 'the job' as catholic world leader...... IMPOSSIBLE.

El_Phil · #7 April 4th, 2005, 07:47 AM

Uhhh what is 'The Job'? Alot of world travel, speeches, the odd blessing to crowds and...

It doesn't seem the world's toughest job, especially as he'd had decades to establish his position on any important issue, so it wasn't as if he had to make difficult theological decisions about complex issues, he'd already made them.

However you've got to admire the man for keeping going with all that he's been through and to keep on going right to the end. Glad he's got some peace now.

Intimidator · #8 April 4th, 2005, 08:13 AM

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El_Phil said:
Uhhh what is 'The Job'? Alot of world travel, speeches, the odd blessing to crowds and...

It doesn't seem the world's toughest job, especially as he'd had decades to establish his position on any important issue, so it wasn't as if he had to make difficult theological decisions about complex issues, he'd already made them.

However you've got to admire the man for keeping going with all that he's been through and to keep on going right to the end. Glad he's got some peace now.

Oh yes , I admire the man......but that's the whole point: After his life as an pope and his devotion, My opinion is that he deserved it to stand down and life/die in peace.
But I know (or I hope) it was his own decision.....

Inti,

Frederick_d_Ohlmann · #9 April 4th, 2005, 09:10 AM

Quote:

El_Phil said:
Uhhh what is 'The Job'? Alot of world travel, speeches, the odd blessing to crowds and...

It doesn't seem the world's toughest job, especially as he'd had decades to establish his position on any important issue, so it wasn't as if he had to make difficult theological decisions about complex issues, he'd already made them.

However you've got to admire the man for keeping going with all that he's been through and to keep on going right to the end. Glad he's got some peace now.

The pape can said "Do not use condom" or "abortion is acceptable/is not acceptable" and be followed by a decent amount of personn. It prove that he has to take important decision so I prefer him to be fully fonctionnal.

Raging Deadstar · #10 April 4th, 2005, 07:58 AM

I'm not exactly the holiest guy on Earth either, But my sympathies. John Paul II was a great pope in comparison to most who went before him. He managed to lead the Catholic Church quite well into modern times.

Although I don't like a lot of Catholic Beliefs he certainly did a lot more good than Evil. I hope he rests peacefully.

Dogscoff: The Pope can retire, if he chooses. I think 6 Popes have abdicated in history... (looks up Wikipedia) The last time one did was Waaaay back in 1409. All Popes can resign if they wish, but there's a lot of controversy and Issues about it if they do so. Wikipedia: Papal Abdication