Tartanians - Page 2

B0rsuk · #1 March 12th, 2008, 01:16 AM

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vfb said:

I just tried Creeping Doom too. My ants got buffed post-summons, so survivability was not so bad, but they're way too slow to have any impact at all.

It would be really nice if they appeared out of the ground near the enemy, instead of clustered at the caster.

For a single Creeping Doom you can cast Swarm twice. It's cheaper in all ways: fatigue, gems, research, paths. I don't think you can beat Swarm at its own game. And that's not the point. The spell has 'doom' in it's name, which is either a very strong word, or Kristoffer's humor. I think they are supposed to deal some damage. Unbuffed (I didn't see a point considering they have so low hp etc) they couldn't kill or even harm a single barbarian. 70+ (NNNN) ants versus 30 ordinary barbarians. Barbs do have some protection, but quite low. What am I supposed to use the spell against ? I think they're meant to be used as a weapon, too. Otherwise why give them weak poison ? Thematic reasons ? I think they should have an AN weapon, their damage is 0 and str is pitiful. Summon Animals can actually kill stuff...
Another disadvantage of the ants is that they seem to act as a single squad and are not very good at swarming.

Lingchih · #2 March 12th, 2008, 01:30 AM

Swarm is a very nice spell indeed. Especially when spammmed. Those dragonflies can actually kill SCs, when you cast enough of them.

NTJedi · #3 March 11th, 2008, 04:26 AM

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lch said:
much like people sometimes take Astral Vortex out of the game through a mod if they think it's too strong.

Astral Vortex??

Do you mean 'Vortex of Returning' or 'Arcane Nexus' or 'Astral Tempest' or is this a spell from a mod??

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Cerlin · #4 March 11th, 2008, 04:44 AM

Considering the very limited base that one can get and outfit Tartanians, isnt it the other players in the games fault for allowing this? Everyone knows when GoH is cast and could get rid of it. Also if you know a certain faction has lots of Death and Nature, other players should gang up on them if they dont dont want to lose. If that player can make it to the end, get tartanians out and kitted, its the other players fault for allowing this.

lch · #5 March 11th, 2008, 09:08 AM

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NTJedi said:
Astral Vortex??

Do you mean 'Vortex of Returning' or 'Arcane Nexus' or 'Astral Tempest' or is this a spell from a mod??

Arcane Nexus. My game is broken, don't blame me.

mathusalem · #6 March 11th, 2008, 09:24 AM

I agree with Twan : Level 9 + D7 + 10 Death gems + 40 N Gems + GoR / Chalice is already expensive (I dislike CBM for increasing the cost to 25 gems)

maybe less random (once I got a 7A tartarian...), no affliction or decrease the cost of Iron Dragon / Tarrasque / Abo to 10 gems too is an idea

AreaOfEffect · #7 March 11th, 2008, 01:33 PM

May I suggest another solution:

Limit the number of Tartarians.

This solution is, in my opinion, simple and elegant. It still makes Tartarians something worth striving for, yet it doesn't make it the only thing you need to win. The mechanic for this already exists in the game so this concept isn't going to be alien to anyone. Besides, how many ancient dead gods enslaved to the underworld can there possibly be. Set the limit to between eleven and twenty and I'm sure things will be just peachy.