RetLT Scenario issues

[RetLT]

Originally Posted by Imp

Did not want to post in the other thread but man you are flying through these. Thanks for those with less time makes selecting what to play easier.

I am retired and don't fish or golf so I have a lot of hours to fill.

[DRG]

Agreed. This has got to be a big help to new ( or old ) players looking for a scenario to try.

Most of the early ones were made by CB Blackard and I might be wrong but his scenarios stopped coming around this date....

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...ruton-blackard

I didn't know a lot about him but a couple of details fit but not all. The last scenario I have from him is timestamped June 29/ 2006 so it's still a mystery

[RetLT]

Scenario #162 Gliders at Crete

I landed all of my gliders together but they seemed to be demoralized by all the abandoned gliders lying around and stayed pinned or worse for the rest of the scenario.

Is there a way to stop them from getting suppression points from the gliders?

[DRG]

Originally Posted by RetLT

Scenario #162 Gliders at Crete

I landed all of my gliders together but they seemed to be demoralized by all the abandoned gliders lying around and stayed pinned or worse for the rest of the scenario.

Is there a way to stop them from getting suppression points from the gliders?

I needed to resurrect this as it is the next Item on our list.

I ran a test with Japanese Glider units ( because that was the nation that was P1 and I knew they had gliders as I had just redone the main glider )

Anyway.........

I landed the gliders away from any enemy fire. They all landed OK and after landing I moved the troops a few hexes as if setting up a perimeter then ended the turn 6 times

After landing the troops all had 1 suppression which is normal.... after 6 turns at least half were zero suppression so in that test I did not see suppression climb as the game went on.

If ANYONE would like to run some duplicate test... just simple ones and tell us if you see suppression climb after landing when they are not under fire

Thanks

[RetLT]

Just tried US v Germany 1944.

Landed all and stayed by the gliders. No suppression after 2-3 turns.

Maybe it was scenario specific somehow?

[DRG]

Originally Posted by RetLT

Just tried US v Germany 1944.

Landed all and stayed by the gliders. No suppression after 2-3 turns.

Maybe it was scenario specific somehow?

That's what we started to suspect . It may be where they are plotted to land that is the reason. If I land them somewhere nice and quiet in that scenario they don't gain suppression

However. Landing under constant fire from small arms and 40mm flak is not a recipe for making troops happy and brimming with confidence in their mission and those that planned it. It may be the mother of all "Hot LZ's".

A compound word that starts with "cluster" comes to mind......They literally land into Hell on earth when you use the "historical" LZ's

Thanks for running a test. It confirms the ones we've run

[DRG]

I will put it on the list to investigate. When you say you landed them all together do you mean the same LZ ?

EDIT: The first turn on landing in my test they were pinned but after that as the AA positions were neutralized I was able to rally enough of them to start taking objectives. In the end I squeaked out a draw. I don't think it's the gliders so much as it is the pounding they take from the AA positions

[RetLT]

Originally Posted by DRG

I will put it on the list to investigate. When you say you landed them all together do you mean the same LZ ?

Yes, I landed them all at the same DZ (Far right). The only good thing was that they retreated towards the other objectives.

I barely managed a draw too.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by RetLT

Yes, I landed them all at the same DZ (Far right). The only good thing was that they retreated towards the other objectives.

I barely managed a draw too.

Just FYI..... this is ( I suspect.... ) why it was designed the way it was

https://nzhistory.govt.nz/war/the-ba...battle-day-1-3

In the Galatas–Canea area, the German attack began with a glider assault. Glider-borne troops landed near Canea but were unable to achieve their main objectives – the capture of Canea and Suda – and were forced to surrender a few days later. German casualties during this operation were appalling as many of the gliders were shot down or wrecked on landing.

[zovs66]

Sad news about CB, may he RIP. I think quite a few have passed on.