MP: Morla MA noob game (running)

[Immaculate]

I am very much looking forward to the AAR.

Now, what is Man and Ulm up to?

[SpaceViking21]

That was indeed a good war, worthy of song and tales for years to come! I've also learned a lot on Pretender design from my early weaknesses in the war, as well as what Jotun needs early on.

I'm also pretty curious about Ulm and Man, seems like they've been pretty quiet.

[Immaculate]

Ulm never got that memo...


(speaking of which- you (Ulm) still owe me (Pythium) a staff- its overdue now and the deal was published here in thread which is supposed to make it official... and binding...)

[Immaculate]

Thanks Aresha!

[Immaculate]

I briefly tried the double-blessed vestals last night and i was able to field a functional expansion party every single turn. It was actually really fun.

When you are done please post your pretender design and scales okay? (or do it in your play guide you were referring to)

[Olm]

I have never seen an explicit ask for help, perhaps didn't look carefully enough. Even being far away I could have probably done something, at least against T'ien Chi.

I don't recall the son of Niefel exactly, but I know that I felt the urge to cloud trapeze some mages in and blast him away with lightning bolts. That was when I figured I hadn't researched cloud trapeze yet.
He really needs some resistances.
But then SC status depends somewhat on the opposition he faces. So probably you are right, he was a SC under the circumstances.

[triqui]

Originally Posted by Olm

I have never seen an explicit ask for help, perhaps didn't look carefully enough. Even being far away I could have probably done something, at least against T'ien Chi.

I don't recall the son of Niefel exactly, but I know that I felt the urge to cloud trapeze some mages in and blast him away with lightning bolts. That was when I figured I hadn't researched cloud trapeze yet.
He really needs some resistances.
But then SC status depends somewhat on the opposition he faces. So probably you are right, he was a SC under the circumstances.

You need resistances depending what are you facing. If you attack Abyssia, Cold Resist is not really that helpful. He is facing Ermor, which has no access to Air-Spamming mages, so he does not really need 100% lightning resist :P

He has 100% cold resistance and 50% fire resistance, which makes him inmune or heavily resistant against fire-brands and frost-brands, and he can kill like six zillions of regular troops and thugs. Chill aura 29 means he almost instantly freeze any regular troops attacking him, and he has encumbrance 2 with reinvigoration 4, which means he can safelly use quickness, to clean 2 full squares of skelly spam per turn. With Defense 30, awe, fear 5, luck and a vineyard shield, he is not easy to take down with other heavy hitters either.

He was smart and moved away from my capitol, so my map1 move grand thaumaturges couldn't chase him easily either. Sure, there are ways to kill him (there are ways to kill every single SC in the game, nothing in this game is bulletproof), but he is not easy to take down. Specially, earlier in the game, when the research wasn't that deep.

[Olm]

Originally Posted by triqui

You need resistances depending what are you facing. If you attack Abyssia, Cold Resist is not really that helpful. He is facing Ermor, which has no access to Air-Spamming mages, so he does not really need 100% lightning resist :P

He has 100% cold resistance and 50% fire resistance, which makes him inmune or heavily resistant against fire-brands and frost-brands, and he can kill like six zillions of regular troops and thugs. Chill aura 29 means he almost instantly freeze any regular troops attacking him, and he has encumbrance 2 with reinvigoration 4, which means he can safelly use quickness, to clean 2 full squares of skelly spam per turn. With Defense 30, awe, fear 5, luck and a vineyard shield, he is not easy to take down with other heavy hitters either.

He was smart and moved away from my capitol, so my map1 move grand thaumaturges couldn't chase him easily either. Sure, there are ways to kill him (there are ways to kill every single SC in the game, nothing in this game is bulletproof), but he is not easy to take down. Specially, earlier in the game, when the research wasn't that deep.

I looked at the battle again, and yes, fear, awe luck and the vineshield mean he is not hit often. The chill however seems not to be so effective.
And your undeads ignore fear and awe.
But you are right, throw in a Ring of tamed Lightning, and I wouldn't like to meet the guy (though i have ideas for the case).

[triqui]

Originally Posted by Olm

I looked at the battle again, and yes, fear, awe luck and the vineshield mean he is not hit often. The chill however seems not to be so effective.
And your undeads ignore fear and awe.
But you are right, throw in a Ring of tamed Lightning, and I wouldn't like to meet the guy (though i have ideas for the case).

If you mean this battle (this last turn), sure, it wasn't effective, becouse he was killing everything fast, and thus the chill was not stacking.

However, when he get surrounded, it *does* work greatly.

All undeads are not inmune to cold and awe. To be specific, *Vestals* arent . Sure, skeletons can go through awe and cold. But they have like no chances to kill a guy with Def 30 and luck (that's an average of TWENTY attacks needed to give his def to 10, which is the skellies attack level), specially if he has prot 18-26 (skellies arent extremelly strong), kills 6 skellies per turn, and have 117-180 hp -depending on dominion- and regenerates.

To kill him, I need mages. I can kill him 100% sure, have done the testing in single player agains exactly that configuration (will tell how, later. I still can resist like El Alamo :P), given the chance to fight with my grand taumaturges. But he is smart, he has no need to bring him to my capitol (or near around it).

[SpaceViking21]

I have backup gear for him for specific resistances, don't you worry. The big things I need for him right now are a starshine skullcap (general MR) and Rainbow Armor. I just haven't had a chance to bring him to a lab until recently, and I wanted to get stuff locked down first.