MP: Beardaxe is go!

[Baalz]

I don't know that we need an impartial ruling on that benchmark, as a worst case scenario he's close to it. He's showing via score graphs ~140 gems per turn income. I know for a fact he's got a bunch of clams from when I spammed earth attacks at him (lots of clam holders got hit). With the large AI nations, along with whatever the human nations (including Mari) are spending it's pretty hard to imagine the nexus isn't pulling in 100+ gems per turn - particularly as we try to push a war with Mari. My guess is his overall income is over 300+ gems per turn, maybe as much as 400+. Bluntly, I'm not going to be able to be too much a threat offensively for the next several turns, and even after that I'm faced with the choice of either trying to dig that damn AI out from under the waves or trying to fortify my incredibly long coast.

[Toran]

It's not as if I was questioning your judgement (llamaserver says he's getting 180 per turn, and he's using at least 100 pearls every second turn for wishing the Chalice away ), it's probably just that I'd love to be crushed myself before conceding.
Of course I could see that this could take some time - I was hoping he'd focus on me rather than one of you.

[Quitti]

Well, I haven't seen much resistance at all - been just waltzing around his lands and sieging a few forts that I can. Gathering speed and such, but I don't know how big a dent I can make in marignon's total forces. I have limited options on what to do, due atlantis raiding my provinces also with mismatch-equipped casters and troops that can beat my PD but nothing else. Still, I know a bit about what happens in other fronts - if Baalz/Toran don't think we have a decent chance of bringing Marignon down, I can vote for his victory.

[Toran]

That's my problem as well - haven't met (that) much resistance the last few turns. If I saw heavy resistance over here, AND Baalz was under pressure, AND Quitti was going to throw the towel, I'd be more than willing to concede.

I'm just wondering why we're still up - according to Baalz' numbers we should be, but instead Quitti and I are making progress...?

[Quitti]

Yeah, progress is being made - only limiting thing now is basically that I can't move my troops much faster to capture provinces. I don't doubt that it might change at any time, but still, it'd still leave Toran "free" to do whatever he wants.

[Toran]

Postponed for 24 hours on Jazzepi's request.

[Toran]

Ahem, sry guys, my turn's done, but there remains a single (important) problem for me, which is technical:

I have an army that refuses to move for several turns now (I thought it had moved finally, but I realized today it didn't). I have read somewhere in the forums about that before, but can't get the key words up to re-find it. What's the solution for that behaviour (other than hefty cursing), I think the cause isn't really known so I could avoid it?

I hope you don't mind if I put 6 hours in, since I hope/think/feel/guess that one of you will be able to give me a hint about that one at least. After that I'll submit right at once.

Toran

[vfb]

If you have any stealth units in the destination province, you could try moving (sneaking) them all out to a totally different province. I saw a recent post where someone said his army finally managed to move when a scout of his which had been hidden was discovered and killed.

Other than that the only known solution AFAIK is to go around and use a different route.

[Quitti]

Interesting. I've not heard of that problem before - have you tried moving it simply the other way like vfb said?

[Toran]

Hm, unfortunately there is neither a cloaked unit inside that province, nor is there any other way to that province without going around half the continent.. :/

Will see what to make from that.