OT- LOTR fan discussion thread - SPOILER WARNING

[Growltigger]

Scoffo, good to see you are still alive, I thought Mrs Scoffo may have Banned you from life or something!

In response:

1 be difficult to have the Barrow Downs, without having Tom Bombadil, as he is the one who rescues the hobbits from the Barrow Wight;

2 I think Brian Blessed was built to be Tom Bombadil;

3 No elves at Helms Deep save Legolas. Just a couple of thousand Rohirrim (not 300!!) and a dwarf!

4 the extended DVD will have a lot to cover, not least Faramir and Eowyn's romance

5 Shirish?!! LOL ROFLMAO - brilliant, I like that

6 Given that the Dead save the day on the Pelennor, they may show them slaughtering the COrsairs in the extended DVD, but they wont change the ships from being loaded up with Gondorean soldiers, rather than the dead - bummer that

7 the delay on the extended DVD is a bit of a rip off, but if it helps then finance the Hobbit movie, I dont mind it

8 glad you agree with Elrond, as for Saruman, that is a tricksy one my precious - in the book, he started off as using the palantir to gain knowledge from sauron, and to try and fool sauron by saying he was his servant, when he wanted power for himself, but then he despaired and really did become sauron's servant - too much smoke and mirrors to try and show in the movie I think

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Narf, there were no mountain armies in the LOTR.

the ghosts where in the mountains, weren't they?

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by Growltigger:
I wondered what the other Tolkienistas on the forum felt to be their biggest gripes, comments and/or criticisms with the movies!!

Mine (in no particular order of importance), are as follows:

1 missing out Tom Bombadil and the Barrow Downs in Fellowship;

Actually Old Bombadillo is my least favorite character in the trilogy, so no great loss for me.

2 Irish music being played in Hobbiton, when they were English (OK OK minor gripe I know)

At least the Irish have music, unlike the English (what was PJ supposed to do, put Hobbiton to the tune of "Eleanor Rigby"? )

3 Elves turning up at Helms Deep!!

No big deal - they all died anyways...

4 Completely underplaying Faramir, he is one of the most noble and heroic characters in the book, and that suicide charge in ROTK was bloody silly;

OK, here I'll agree with you, at least as far as Faramir's treatment in TTT goes (the extended edition repaired the damage somewhat), but the suicide charge (other than giving Minas Tirith cavalry, which they really didn't have in the books) is pretty faithful to the spirit of the Faramir/Denethor relationship (such as it was).

Just don't get me started on the Ents...

[Gryphin]

Orriginaly Posted by Growltigger
Agree with you about the witch king. I just loved the lines "Feast on his Flesh" soon followed by "No man may kill me, I am not a man, I am a woman" - whop!! marvellous.

Wow, we agree on something. wierd.
That was my favorite secen in the book and the movie though in both cases the use of "no man of woamn born" ploy still gets me.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

"no man of woamn born"

*Evil Emporor Graldo knew his days were numbered with the advent of cloning...*

[tesco samoa]

so where is this all 3 movie dvd set ? I cannot see any info on it anywhere.

can someone post a link. I am interested in reading about it

[Parasite]

It is hard to have more than a few heros in a movie. That is my major complaint in the Tom Clancy books/movies. The books show average people being heroic, the movies Not. I think Faramir got caught up in this and had his heroism turned down.

I have a complaint about the horses and elephants. They will not ride close to one another. This is true in real life as well as in the books. The movie has them riding past each other. No problem. Right.

[gravey101]

ine (in no particular order of importance), are as follows:

>1 missing out Tom Bombadil and the Barrow Downs in Fellowship;

My least 2 favorite chapters in the book, so no loss IMO.

>2 Irish music being played in Hobbiton, when they were English (OK OK minor gripe I know)

Didn't even notice.

>3 Elves turning up at Helms Deep!!

I actually didn't mind this. I hated the Legolas skateboard scene.

>4 Completely underplaying Faramir, he is one of the most noble and heroic characters in the book, and that suicide charge in ROTK was bloody silly;

Agreed.

I liked the extended Arwen character, but hated the portrayal of Elrond. Probably the only casting choice I had issue with.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
so where is this all 3 movie dvd set ? I cannot see any info on it anywhere.

can someone post a link. I am interested in reading about it

I think AT was just being pessimistic again...

[Puke]

Originally posted by Growltigger:
7 the delay on the extended DVD is a bit of a rip off, but if it helps then finance the Hobbit movie, I dont mind it

oh yeah... I hope those poor blokes can get over their financial problems, I hear those struggling artists are really having a hard time with things. Think we can make a donation somewhere, just to make sure they dont end up on the street?

...riiiiiight