Errors in Belgian OOB

[VDS]

Should be added to Belgian OOB -
Eagle B-Hunter UAV, 18 active January 2004 w/FLIR. (I can supply pics if needed)
Links -
http://www.baha.be/Webpages/Navigato...1945_today.htm
http://www.deagel.com/Tactical-Suppo...000635003.aspx
http://www.iai.co.il/Default.aspx?do...=16730&lang=en
http://www.mil.be/aircomp/units/index.asp?LAN=nl&ID=620 (in Dutch)

[DRG]

VDS said:
Incorrect Unit in Belgian OOB#27
Unit #211, Puma Helicopter should be removed. It was never used by the Army but by the Rijkswacht (Federal Police).
Links -
http://belmilac.wetpaint.com/page/Ae....330C-L-H+Puma
http://www.baha.be/Webpages/Navigato...1945_today.htm
http://www.ailes-militaires-belges.b...e_federale.htm (in French)

The problem with this otherwise good idea is that renders the Belgians without a "heavy lifting" helicopter after 1998. So either the Army "borrows" these from the Federal Police or we find something else to take it's place or we end the formation in 1998

This page .. http://www.baha.be/Webpages/Navigato...1945_today.htm
says they ended service in 1998 anyway

Aerospatiale SA330L/H Puma OL-G01 > OL-G03 3 07/73 > 05/98

Don

[VDS]

DRG said:

The problem with this otherwise good idea is that renders the Belgians without a "heavy lifting" helicopter after 1998. So either the Army "borrows" these from the Federal Police or we find something else to take it's place or we end the formation in 1998

This page .. http://www.baha.be/Webpages/Navigato...1945_today.htm
says they ended service in 1998 anyway

Aerospatiale SA330L/H Puma OL-G01 > OL-G03 3 07/73 > 05/98

Don

There are plans to buy 10 NH90 helos, but who knows when they will be available. 2010 at the earliest would be my guess and most (if not all) will be used by the Navy.

http://www.luchtzak.be/article10790.html

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...ates/index.php

[Jan]

(...)
The problem with this otherwise good idea is that renders the Belgians without a "heavy lifting" helicopter after 1998. So either the Army "borrows" these from the Federal Police or we find something else to take it's place or we end the formation in 1998
(...)
Don

when we are on belgian territory, we mostly use our SeaKing for "heavy" lifting (it can transport one to two fully equiped infantry section) or the A109BA UH(L) (wich can transport one section).

When we are in operations, we are also using other nations choppers, often the french Puma.

About the NH90, they will be 4 NFH version that will be delivered in 2009, 4 TTH version (for wich i don't know the delivery date) and 2 SAR version that will be delivered in 2008 to replace the SeaKings.

cheers,

Jan

[DRG]

Jan said:when we are on belgian territory, we mostly use our SeaKing for "heavy" lifting (it can transport one to two fully equiped infantry section) or the A109BA UH(L) (wich can transport one section).
Jan

Hello Jan

This would imply the SeaKing is still in service with the Belgian armed forces???

Don

[JohnHale]

That's right, Don: the remaining Sea King Mk 48s soldier on in service with 40 Smaldeel.

The ever-useful Scramble site:

http://www.scramble.nl/be.htm

(look under Koksijde)


John

[DRG]

Yes well, we've been squeezing out more operational life from our SeaThings as well. I will adjust the OOB

Don

[DRG]

Do you happen to know how long they have been using the Alouette III ? I see it's still listed on that website

Don

[Smersh]

The Belgian OBB does not have any paratroop company formations.

Instead there is an odd looking platoon formation (244).

There is a ParaCommando company formation (261), but this formation is only avialable until 1956. This is odd, considering a Paracommando regiment took part in operations in Congo in 1964, and as far as I know agian in 1978.

"The Paracommandos, or paras as they referred to themselves, became a single regiment in 1952. The 1er Bataillon Parachutists SAS, which evolved from the 1st Belgian SAS Squadron of World War II, and the 1er Bataillon Commando, formerly a troop of the 10th Interallied Commando, were unified and redesignated as the Belgian Paracommando Regiment. Many of its members had served with the Belgian contingent in Korea. During the next eight years, the regiment served both as a NATO unit and as the Belgian Army's principal shock force in the Congo. In 1964, the regiment consisted of three battalions: the 1st Parachute Battalion, the 2d Commando Battalion, and the 3d Parachute Battalion. In addition, the regiment contained a regimental headquarters, the Commando Training Center, and the Parachute Training Center. Despite the different unit designations, each battalion received the same training and missions"

Edit:Great site with more useful information: http://www.specialoperations.com/For...os/default.htm

[JohnHale]

Don,

Three Alouettes were acquired for the Belgian Navy in 1971. In-service date would appear to be March 1971, according to this:

http://belmilac.wetpaint.com/page/Su...B+Alouette+III


Cheers,


John