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November 5th, 2010, 12:49 PM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
Hex grids off is a good point makes it look like table top minitures in my view.
Takes a while to get used to but if you stick with it become very good at judging ranges. Its like wearing a watch I suppose if you dont bother stop being reliant on it & become pretty good at judging time but put the watch or hex grid on & brain goes into lazy mode & uses them.
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November 5th, 2010, 01:05 PM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
like cross says, putting hexgrid of gives a better impression and that is how i play the game as well.
as gabeeg mentions still the grafik is far from an eye candy. and right: i did not realize before but i believe gabeeg might be correct: it is not the pixel resolution given the old school feeling, but the number of colors used. can anybody give some insight to his question if there is a 8bit or lower restriction to the hex design?
thanks drg for answering the initial question. to bad all hope for a visual more sophisticated version is lost. - the rest of the game, as mentioned before, is superior to everything comparable on this gaming sector
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November 5th, 2010, 03:12 PM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
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As for the infantry mods, I have a problem with the small infantry...I do not like spending time hunting when a PBEM turn has taken awhile and I do not exactly recall where everthing is (even with ID tags...since I like mine small). A long time ago someone came up with a larger infantry mod where the helmets are a bit bigger and contrasts a little better with the surroundings. I am pretty sure I found it in an old TOE post...does anybody recall this mods name or author? It may help those that have issue with locating infantry in forest hexes, etc.
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Here's some links to infantry mods:
1. These are very realistic (WW2 & MBT) but a bit too large in IMHO:
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http://www.theblitz.org/message_boar....php?tid=52809
2. This SPWW2/MBT infantry mod is not realistic, but shows up well:
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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=42984
3. This mod is the same size as the original infantry, but some of them show up better, especially the cavalry:
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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=46332
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November 5th, 2010, 07:36 PM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
Thats a nice post Cross, thanks. I do not recall seeing those top ones before. I am using the ones in #2 as they show up real well (think it is the shine off the helmets)...but take some getting used to. The third set is from your mod correct? I was tempted to try them but they look the same size as the originals so have thus far have not...they are very, very well done though.
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November 6th, 2010, 08:56 AM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
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Thats a nice post Cross, thanks. I do not recall seeing those top ones before. I am using the ones in #2 as they show up real well (think it is the shine off the helmets)...but take some getting used to. The third set is from your mod correct? I was tempted to try them but they look the same size as the originals so have thus far have not...they are very, very well done though.
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Yes, the third set is my infantry icon mod.
They were deliberately designed the same size as the originals, as the mod is only supposed to improve the graphic representation of the infantry, with more realism and variety.
I like small infantry, and think it's especially important with larger sections/squads. I usually have ID Tags/Flags turned on. But use the mini-ID flag mod, so the flags are very small.
I agree that there's often a break-in period where you have to get used to a mod. But try a few, and see what works best for you. In the end it's a personal preference.
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November 14th, 2010, 06:28 AM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
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I like to play with the Hex Grid turned OFF.
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All these years, ever since SP1 I have always played with Hex Grids OFF. I thought everyone else did also, hehe..., I really only used the hex grids for judging distance when making maps...
At one point I did however start using ID flags, and have been doing so for years.
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November 7th, 2010, 08:21 PM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
I only use the mini map to get to a further place on the map than I am quickly. Hard to believe someone would walk away from the game because of it. As Gila says, if you really want a quick overview zoom out with the ID tags on
The arty routine is completely different than the original in 1997. Read the Game guide
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November 7th, 2010, 08:47 PM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
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I only use the mini map to get to a further place on the map than I am quickly. Hard to believe someone would walk away from the game because of it. As Gila says, if you really want a quick overview zoom out with the ID tags on
The arty routine is completely different than the original in 1997. Read the Game guide
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I am not speaking about the arty routine I speak about the way it is designed, I dont like It. I didnt like it in 1997. Just an opinion.
The zoom out is a zoom out. A minimap is a fast generic visual approach to the battlefield. I think that was the reason the minimap exists since the first Steel Panthers. It could have been designed without it.
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November 10th, 2010, 09:17 PM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
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I am not speaking about the arty routine I speak about the way it is designed, I dont like It. I didnt like it in 1997. Just an opinion.
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Ok,but do tell us what game has a better "design"?
Free games you want play or not, are your right to playtest,buy or reject,it's up all to you.
Since this is a free D/L version more than likley,for you,
you shouldn't complain too much.
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November 12th, 2010, 11:19 AM
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Re: SP with better Graphics?
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I am not speaking about the arty routine I speak about the way it is designed, I dont like It. I didnt like it in 1997. Just an opinion.
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Ok,but do tell us what game has a better "design"?
Free games you want play or not, are your right to playtest,buy or reject,it's up all to you.
Since this is a free D/L version more than likley,for you,
you shouldn't complain too much.
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If I consider something can be improved I will say it. And I think the minimap and the interface, menu text, etc, can be improved. It is good for the game. That´s all.
Heresy?
The Arty question is something personal and is not the theme of my topic.
Some immobile stances dont make any good to the future of classics.
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