Jets & Planes but no UAV's here. - Page 29

Imp · #1 July 20th, 2016, 01:48 AM

If your looking at dialling back TI in some cases in a players hands a difference of just a couple of hexes is a huge advantage Cheiftain with 22 vision for example instead of 20.
Modern battles can be quite complex especially vs countries like Russia when you suddenly come across a platoon of tanks with vision that outranges yours.
The AI can take advantage of this if its defending.

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #2 August 22nd, 2016, 02:03 AM

This newer article backs what I've been posting about the joint Russian/Indian T-50/PAK-FA fighter-bomber it might not be as stealthy as originally thought. However she'll be a much better in dog fight then the the F-35 which this article has maintained that distinction as expressed over the last five years or so. It could've been better if India had had it's way. India wanted the fighter with better stealth qualities to deal with the Chinese and Pakistani Air Forces.

What happened? Yes that nasty economic thing almost ended up killing the project for both countries and Russia more so as it's experiencing mounting economic pressures brought on by the worlds oil glut and widespread corruption within it's economic system (Soshi comes to mind, in the fact that S. Korea will have their Olympic facilities built for about 2/3 to 3/4 of the cost less then the Russians did 2yrs ago.)

India's response was to buy the RAFALE.

There still is some great information in the diagrams provided concerning weapons and other capabilities.

To be clear this is still an outstanding warbird.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/ga...318265ed8252c5

Yup, tracking since day one.

Though it's in the game, I suspect there might be some "tweaking" to come down the road, especially depending on what India will do to their fighters. If they add some of the equipment they want, which might actually happen, the PAK-FA will at a minimum have a higher EW rating then the Russian version. Time will tell as these fighters still are a couple or more years away from becoming fully operational.

Regards,
Pat

DRG · #3 August 22nd, 2016, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

This newer article backs what I've been posting about the joint Russian/Indian T-50/PAK-FA fighter-bomber it might not be as stealthy as originally thought. However she'll be a much better in dog fight then the the F-35Regards,
Pat

YEAH BUT.........we're not fighting WW1, "dog fighting" isn't the way things go anymore

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #4 August 22nd, 2016, 09:30 PM

Meant that in modern terms-sorry-it is thought with the capabilities of it's radar in range and search capability plus the Russian advanced Air-to-Air missiles now recently in service it would give the PAK-FA the edge. In maneuverability that will clearly fall to the PAK-FA as well due to the advanced "vectoring" system it uses. The experts feel in this area it performs almost as well as the F-22. We'll see though irrelevant to the game. Again the keys factors from last for us is we have a better handle on what she can drop on the ground and how much, she'll have an excellent EW rating though less then the F-22 but, should be comparable to the F-35 and she'll be fast without after burners, and they know she's got a very low heat signature in line with both the F-22 & F-35.

But to be clear (F-22) there's not a better fighter in the air in regards to it's electronics suite, EW, speed and finally stealth. As in the real world for this game it's the "Gold Standard" which is now combat proven.

Cannons I would guess are there to make the pilots feel comfortable in the air and so they have something to strafe with.

Regards,
Pat

IronDuke99 · #5 August 25th, 2016, 09:54 AM

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Cannons I would guess are there to make the pilots feel comfortable in the air and so they have something to strafe with.

Regards,
Pat

Mind you the end of air to air dog fighting has been repeatedly predicted (before WWII, before Vietnam to name two I can think of) and it has yet to happen. A bit like the end of the Tank...

Suhiir · #6 August 25th, 2016, 08:18 PM

WW I style dogfighting died with biplanes, then WW II style died with the adoption of the jet engine, then Vietnam style died with the advent of computer assisted flight controls ...

The point is a specific style of dogfighting may well become outmoded ... but machinegun/cannon range air-to-air combat persists, and will continue to persist.

shahadi · #7 August 25th, 2016, 08:37 PM

Dogfighting is a form of aerial combat. The F-4 Phantom lack of guns in Vietnam killed that experiment and the Navy went back to Top Gun school. Dogfighting has no place in our game anyway.

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FASTBOAT TOUGH · #8 August 26th, 2016, 01:15 AM

I did say that my self above...as I've said this for years now as well concerning this piece of equipment. I thank god at at least the USN has more patience then both the USAF and USMC. Looks like the the year we settled on almost a year ago in this thread is going to hold up as 2018+ as it stands.
http://www.janes.com/article/63249/f...official-warns
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...abilit-428786/
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...program-07501/

A linked aside if you will...
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...0-reti-428787/

Hate fighters in the game. Love fighter-bombers though!?!
Not a topic starter as it's well covered already within this and other threads to include fairly recently.)

Regards,
Pat

IronDuke99 · #9 August 26th, 2016, 01:32 AM

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A linked aside if you will...
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...0-reti-428787/

Regards,
Pat

Have always wondered how the F35 was going to replace the A10 in doing CAS, as it seems an awfully expensive aircraft to put in the way of casual ground fire from rifles, MG's and auto cannon, etc.

I have certainly read Crabs (sorry RAF officers) saying that they think 'mud moving' is better left to kit like British Army Apache attack helicopters rather than their fast, shiny, pointy things...

Suhiir · #10 August 26th, 2016, 04:28 AM

As to the F-35 replacing the A-10 ... not really. But the upper brass in the USAF never wanted the A-10 to start with and has been trying to get rid of it for years. They see the F-35 as their big chance. In spite of nay-sayers the F-35 won't be any worse then the F-16 in the ground support role, and probably better as it carries a larger payload. While the 30mm gat on the A-10 is nice it's hardly the super weapons some folks try to make it out to be. What the F-35 primarily lacks is the loiter time the A-10 has, and that matters a lot in ground support.

I use to chuckle when the USAF kept claiming it could win wars with bombs alone, these days I just roll my eyes.