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				 OT: Civ 3 Complete Edition or Civ 4? 
 I am in the mood for some Civ again. Civ 1, Civ 2 and Alpha Centauri rank among my favorite games. So, I figured it would be nice to try out a newer version. I have never tried Civ 3, but Civ 4 is already out.
 If you tried either or both of these games, which one would you recommend? The already somewhat old but patched, bug fixed (?) and expanded Complete Edition of Civ 3. Or the new and better(?) Civ 4.
 
 Any opinions are welcome. What are the main differences between the two versions? Is there anything good in Civ 3 that is missing in Civ 4?
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				 Re: OT: Civ 3 Complete Edition or Civ 4? 
 I have both but I'd have to say I play Civ III more than I do IV but I don't have any of the expansions for IV. 
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				 Re: OT: Civ 3 Complete Edition or Civ 4? 
 I've both (Civ3 Complete and Civ4+WL), I'd say go for the 4, it's really more beautiful and innovative (religion, techs requiring this *or* that, unit experience...). Only thing I lack is the att/def characteristics, now they have one overall "combat" value. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Civ 3 is a terrible game, even with the expansions. Don't bother with it. Civ 4 is a decent game. Wonder how that Fall From Heaven 2 mod is progressing... |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: OT: Civ 3 Complete Edition or Civ 4? 
 Civ 4 is absolutely amazing.  Have the previous graphics card issues with nvidia been fixed?  I use ATI and its always worked well, but I think for at least a year after release it crashed a lot with nvidia cards, caused a LOT of heartache amongst the populace...
 I can't recommend civ4 enough.  Plus it's incredibly moddable!!!
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				 Re: OT: Civ 3 Complete Edition or Civ 4? 
 I'd reccomend playing more Alpha Centauri, Civ 3 isn't too bad though. I wouldn't reccomend Civ 4 though, it's a complete disappointment, which is a shame because I own all the civ games except civ 4. |  
	
		
	
	
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 The moddability of Civ4 puts SE5 to shame. Too bad it still has that shallow Civ gameplay. :-\ |  
	
		
	
	
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		| Imperator Fyron said: The moddability of Civ4 puts SE5 to shame. Too bad it still has that shallow Civ gameplay. :-\
 
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				 Re: OT: Civ 3 Complete Edition or Civ 4? 
 Alpha Centauri runs fine on dual-core machines. Just ignore the not-compatable box; it does that on all my machines, and they all play it fine. 
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		| Yimboli said: Civ 4 is absolutely amazing.  Have the previous graphics card issues with nvidia been fixed?  I use ATI and its always worked well, but I think for at least a year after release it crashed a lot with nvidia cards, caused a LOT of heartache amongst the populace...
 
 I can't recommend civ4 enough.  Plus it's incredibly moddable!!!
 
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