Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?

[Glyn]

Slynky successfully defended his place as KOTH by trouncing the empire of Glyn in all categories.

I liked starting off at medium tech level.

Lessons learned: There are subtle differenced in expanding and exploiting a balanced map. Strategies used in stock maps may the most efficient in a balanced map.

I did liked starting off at medium tech level.

Sorry Alneyan, you'll have to update the KOTH page again. Besided change is good!

[Slynky]

Alneyan said:Edit: a *device* wrapper - as if. Did you know graphic cards were twice as fast if you bent them in the proper manner? A driver wrapper, now that sounds more like it.

Well, you may be on to something...personally I like to keep my graphic cards straight and never even dreamed the would operate faster if I bent them some.

[Slynky]

Glyn said:
Slynky successfully defended his place as KOTH by trouncing the empire of Glyn in all categories.

I liked starting off at medium tech level.

Lessons learned: There are subtle differenced in expanding and exploiting a balanced map. Strategies used in stock maps may the most efficient in a balanced map.

Thanks for the game, Glyn. Had me worried several times! And thanks for the regular and fast turn times.

It would be interesting to hear different takes on the changes one would make in playing a balance map. Personally speaking, I know it has cut out a lot of cursing at my house (when you go through the 2nd nebula only to find a 3rd...you get my meaning) .

As to Geo's v2.0, I'll have to go back and read it to see the difference between ice/rock and gas. This version had a nice randomness to it that made me cross my fingers each time I moved to a new system yet NOT presenting me with black holes and such things. I think it's a good improvement. (polite bow)

[Slynky]

Now, we just have to wait for Geo, party-animal that he is , to hit the boards this morning and see he has a match.

I wonder what kind of suggestions he'll have for settings (scratches chin as he ponders the vast reaches of Geo's imagination).

I believe I've played against Geo more than any other player...around 6 or 7 games, I'd say. But it's been a while...I'm sure I'll have to roll up my sleeves.

[Glyn]

A good game thanks Slynky.

The only problem I noticed with the balance mod was that some rock and ice planets had a matching ice or rock moon. I don’t known if the balance mod can be made to prevent having a moons and planets of the same type. Not a big problem, but it would be just a bit more balanced.

[Slynky]

Glyn said:The only problem I noticed with the balance mod was that some rock and ice planets had a matching ice or rock moon. I don’t known if the balance mod can be made to prevent having a moons and planets of the same type. Not a big problem, but it would be just a bit more balanced.

If you mean there was a matching, for example, ice planet with an ice moon, that's true but I don't remember finding a planet with my atmos type AND a moon with my atmos type together. I did a quick check and didn't notice one.

On the other hand, I think there was a large or huge breathable (gas) planet in each system for you where on my side of the map, sometimes my breathable was a small (or tiny, I think).

But, Geo mentioned something like this, I think, in his long description in the Balance thread, so I think this was intentional...that rock/ice people would have more planets on average but gas people would have fewer but larger. Or something like that .

[geoschmo]

Glyn said:
I don’t known if the balance mod can be made to prevent having a moons and planets of the same type.

Yeah, there isn't anything preventing it actually. There probably aren't too many, so they won't show up often and might not even occur in every map. But actually I think that preventing it could be accomplished fairly easily. I'll play around with that some and see if I can work it into a later revision.

Slynky, you and I have played each other so often I doubt there will be many suprises. And since I assume we will be using a balance map I don't have the possibility of you getting a bad start to give me a leg up, which was the only way I've been able to beat you in the past. I fully expect this to be another defeat for me, but I'll give you the best fight I can.

I will defer to you as King for settings. My only suggestion would be no stellar manipulation. I'll play with it if you want, and I have gotten pretty good with it lately (mostly from lessons learned the hard way against you), but I'd prefer to go without it.

Geoschmo

[Slynky]

geoschmo said:

Slynky, you and I have played each other so often I doubt there will be many suprises. And since I assume we will be using a balance map I don't have the possibility of you getting a bad start to give me a leg up, which was the only way I've been able to beat you in the past. I fully expect this to be another defeat for me, but I'll give you the best fight I can.

I will defer to you as King for settings. My only suggestion would be no stellar manipulation. I'll play with it if you want, and I have gotten pretty good with it lately (mostly from lessons learned the hard way against you), but I'd prefer to go without it.

Geoschmo

Nah...no stellar manipulation. As Alneyan pointed out often enough, it's almost a race to get it first and do surprise attacks behind lines.

Defer to me? LOL...I usually try to suggest something to break up the monotony...never know what I'll suggest. 'Course, we can negotiate.

What about:

Warp holes anywhere in system (I miss that one);
No mines;
3 good starting planets;
3000 points;
Manual placement;
No Religious;
No Stelar Manip;
Map: medium spiral but rolled over and over to get a "small" medium result;
No stealth armor or claoking to avoid that "other" race to sneak ships behind the line since there would be no mines; and
Balance version 2.0

Clarification on the armor above...one can use Scattering but there will be no ships allowed with Stealth. This is a trust issue and I trust you...after all, one never knows when the other player might build hyper optics just to check...so that adds the element of Reagan's famous remark, "Trust but verify". I don't think either of us would pursue a win by cheating. And if you think this too cumbersome, just say so and it's out without any problem.

Your counter?

[geoschmo]

Slynky said:
Warp holes anywhere in system (I miss that one);
No mines;
3 good starting planets;
3000 points;
Manual placement;
No Religious;
No Stelar Manip;
Map: medium spiral but rolled over and over to get a "small" medium result;
No stealth armor or claoking
Balance version 2.0

This all sounds good, as long as we have a map with manual placement, which you may be assuming here but didn't state. With no mines if we start too close it would be over too quick.

[Renegade 13]

You know Alneyan, I think you can put me back on the hill already if you wouldn't mind. Only gone for a couple of weeks, and I miss it! With my work schedule, I may only manage a couple turns per day, but as long as that is acceptable to my potential opponent, I'd like to be back in it. Maybe this time I could advance beyond the second level!!