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January 20th, 2011, 04:02 PM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
Shinuyama PD defeated an Pangean(?) Army. 
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January 20th, 2011, 04:06 PM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
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Originally Posted by Korwin
Shinuyama PD defeated an Pangean(?) Army. 
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I saw that, made my day. Aparently centaurs are cowards!
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January 22nd, 2011, 12:18 PM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
yeah, rollback+new patch is just asking for disaster. too bad you guys rolled the game back so quickly, and I was busy with other things that day, so I didn't even reply in this thread. but as 1 of you said here earlier, I would have strongly objected to it because of these exact things. a bug with armor of virtue? I'm pretty sure it was a known bug already, in fact armor of virtue has quite a few bugs related to it that are known. that certainly is no reason for a rollback Imho, especially when also transitioning into a new patch.
I haven't looked at my new turn yet, so I have no idea how it's looking from my perspective. but I suspect you're not the only 1 with bugs. we'll have to wait and see how many other bugs already popped up for everyone else to see where we want to go from here. but for next time, please for the love of god stop being so trigger happy regarding rollbacks! rollbacks are a serious trouble spot, which is why llamabeast posted that warning on llamaserver and requests you to submit "I am sure", he did that from experience, not because he's a meanie. it's a known issue that keeps repeating itself in various manifestations, basically it's a beast better left slumbering than awakened.
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January 22nd, 2011, 01:30 PM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
rolling back for an AoV bug is a no-no. AoV is always somewhat unreliable - you want to use it, you take the risks.
Your only real option I think is to rollback, wipe out all the .2h's and have everyone complete a fresh turn - do not resubmit the old turn!
good luck 
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January 22nd, 2011, 01:41 PM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
no further rollback, as long as Shinuyama isnt finished off 
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January 22nd, 2011, 01:42 PM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
yeah, that's 1 of the main issues. many people don't realize that after a rollback you need to delete both the .trn and .2h files before inserting the rollbacked turn. that's 1 of the primary sources of rollback induced errors. than there are the other usual suspects like people using different OPs(operating systems, windows xp, vista, 7, as well as various linux and whatever else people use), than you mix the usual random errors related with rollbacks and on top of it all add a new patch. it was just a horrible decision to make this rollback to begin with, but we can't spin back the wheel, so I just hope you new game hosts out there learn from all these mistakes and stop being so trigger happy on clicking the rollback option for any minor issue that pops up in whatever game. it's just not worth it.
so, as we can't spin back the wheel, we gotta make do with what we have. I doubt rerolling back after a rollback+patch will actually solve the problems, not to mention not add any new problems. however it's worth a shot as we can't really continue with a variety of bugs. I'm afraid that eventually we'll have to throw in the towel, but before that we certainly need a rollback, delete all the previous files and submit new turns(not the previous turns like the current rollback).
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January 22nd, 2011, 02:47 PM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
No more rollbacks! If we're going to keep doing that, you'll need to find a sub for me.
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January 25th, 2011, 08:12 AM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
Okay, someone has to explain this sixth global **** to me. I know I put more pearls into that damn Nexus than anyone has put into any enchantments to date, yet somehow Pangaea's Carrion Woods, with 90 gems DISPELLED my freaking 170 pearl Nexus on the ****ing turn it was cast.
I really- REALLY need someone to explain to me how this damn system works cause at the moment it just looks like 'cast a global, replace an old global of any size and price no problem!'.
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January 25th, 2011, 08:29 AM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
I don't know how the globals work. but let me put forward my emmence gratitude that we arn't having to deal with a nexus at this stage :P.
I was sure the mother oak was toast when I saw 2 globals...
guess the lategame has begun, gentlemen.
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In other news, any further rollback bugs?
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January 25th, 2011, 08:42 AM
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Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
in other news, it's real nice that you guys actually said what the decision was... I was refraining from making my new turn until I heard whether we're rolling back again or not, and now I see that the game hosted.
also "Reminder: Rock_the_Cradle hosting in around 2 hours" 2 hours, really??? yeah, like that helped, especially when these 2 hours were when I was still sleeping...
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