Guide Agartha, Pale ones - a study in darkness (CBM) - Page 4

Fantomen · #1 September 27th, 2009, 03:11 PM

It is very easy to get n4 if you have a s4 forge lord. All you need to do is let a indy shaman borrow a ring to forge a thistle mace, then lend him the other ring as well and you got n4 for GOR.

I agree Umbrals are great, I just don´t think you´ll have many more with a n5 pretender. It´s more a matter of getting there fast. No reason not to have Umbrals AND golems *plus* your soul vortexing SC oracles.

chrispedersen · #2 November 17th, 2010, 02:03 AM

Trog lords don't have heads, btw.

Meursy · #3 November 24th, 2010, 06:06 PM

No fuss Redeyes, everyone knew what you were all talking about. Just saw it getting copy/pasted all over the place and the little pedant inside of me cracked

And Calahan, the latest Nigerian attempt on my bank balance was from a woman with some sort of untrackable confection for a name, Xanthra Dreeples or something similarly stupid. Actually, that's not it at all but I can't remember it, which is WAI of course. I swear they actually use a random name generator and go with that. Such naive optimism! She was fleeing an irate prince and seeking a better life for her and her young child, with only her wits, resourcefulness, and multi-million dollar riches keeping the wolves from her door.

I was enchanted by the chutzpah and all the cute English errors, but not enough to send any money alas.

Fantomen · #4 July 1st, 2013, 05:27 PM

This guide was written based on CBM 1.6, there are lots of changes since then.

Some relevant for this guide are:

*Bolas nerfed (no longe does strength damage)
*Forge lord nerfed (forge bonus reduced to 25)
*hammers removed (combined with the above obseletes FL mentor spam)
*lots of buffs to agartha, new spells, heat preference etc.

So basically the whole guide is out of date, the main strategic plan is obseleted by the nerfs to forgelord and hammer removal, and new options have been opened by the buffs that are much better choices to focus on.

I still think the bolas are a good idea though, but more for tying units down so you low attack troops can hit them than for direct killing.

If I was to make a strategy based on the current CBM it would probably be a dormant Ancient olm semi rainbow with minor blesses and nature to GoR the olmspawns (they becoma mage-thugs when GoRed)

I'm not going to rewrite the guide, consider it Dom3 history and maybe find some inspiration from it, but the overall strat is obselete.

JonBrave · #5 July 1st, 2013, 05:35 PM

Dear Fanto,

Nice to see you still here!

I only joined at about CBM 1.9x, so now I understand it was different before. (I am only used to CBM now, so didn't even realise it had been different in Vanilla.) Maybe you caused the nerf! Are there any ranged damage 0 but + strength weapons left, other than bows?

Your guide is nicely written!