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parone · #1 June 28th, 2012, 06:34 AM

would soul slay work? at my current level of research, i could get there in the year 3000.

Shardphoenix · #2 June 28th, 2012, 01:33 PM

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would soul slay work?

Yes. it would. Except that you need a high penetration and several mages spamming it. Nice, tasty mages...

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Yikes. I thought he he had a lot less HP.

Prophets tend to have high HP in their own dominion... Especially if they get a +HP heroic ability and spend some time in HoF.

revenant2 · #3 June 28th, 2012, 08:07 PM

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would soul slay work?

Yes. it would. Except that you need a high penetration and several mages spamming it. Nice, tasty mages...

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Yikes. I thought he he had a lot less HP.

Prophets tend to have high HP in their own dominion... Especially if they get a +HP heroic ability and spend some time in HoF.

For a nasty immortal SC, I would go with the "Horror Mark" spell (http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Horror_Mark). It only requires S2 and is available at Thaum 1, which even a research-challenged lizard should be able to pull off.

A horror mark should be effective because it will attract -- you guessed it -- horrors. If you get a high enough dose of marks, it will increase the frequency and strength of attacks to the point where his SC might be effectively knocked out of action as he gets taken down by horrors every turn. I believe the marks increase in strength as you fight horrors, so you might not need very many to get the cycle going.

This is all theory-craft on my part since I've never actually tried this strategy, but it might be worth a try. If you need astral boosters, let me know

Shardphoenix · #4 June 29th, 2012, 02:55 AM

Horror mark needs MANY castings to become effective.

parone · #5 June 29th, 2012, 08:13 AM

well, i got nothin but time. of course, i have no astral mages...

revenant2 · #6 June 30th, 2012, 01:09 PM

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Shardphoenix · #7 June 30th, 2012, 01:28 PM

Yeah, winning a noobgame as LA Ermor - so much honor in that.

revenant2 · #8 June 30th, 2012, 03:28 PM

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Yeah, winning a noobgame as LA Ermor - so much honor in that.

If you're a newb then I'm a monkey's uncle. You have pages and pages of tactics written on the forums. If you are a newb, then I'd be terrified of what an experienced player is like.

I will give you credit that you give good advise. I think you need to work on your presentation a bit because I don't think people really took it to heart. Maybe they thought you were crying wolf?

Anyway, it's ironic because all of our advise in the beginning probably helped me more than anyone else: I realized that I couldn't just throw massive amounts of chaff at other players because there are just too many ways to destroy them, so I focused on diversifying my forces as much as possible (it's a good thing I took a rainbow mage as a pretender). This turned out to be brutally effective against Midgard and Pangaea -- and you this past turn.

I knew you were going to throw undead mastery at me, so I had prepared massive assassination spam as a counter. In the last turn most of it didn't even land because I wiped out all of your commanders.

I even created this chart to help gauge how effective undead mastery would be against my forces:

I didn't know when you were going to spring it so I didn't have a chance to evacuate my low MR troops, although with soul gate up I'll have fairly high MR troops that will be more resistant to it. Of course, I could also use it myself to get back my troops in a pinch

You're like one of those James Bond villains that can't help but spill the beans about their secret plans...

Shardphoenix · #9 June 30th, 2012, 03:49 PM

That`s just because i feel it`s cheap to gain advantage by hiding basic knowledge from other players.

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If you're a newb then I'm a monkey's uncle.

Maybe I`m not exactly a newb, more of a moderate player - but it didn`t matter because you already became unstoppable before reaching me, by feasting on Patala and later Midgard/Abyssia/Pan. And i had totally NO astral income barring my cap before I took some from Parone - so I couldn`t even dispel those Strands of arcane power you used to generate a huge gemincome.
Anyway, you`ve successfully invaded my heartland and will be storming my cap in approximately 3 turns. And I can do nothing to stop you. It doesn`t matter if I kill some of your troops, since you generate more per turn anyway. And there`s no way I can hurt your high-end summons.
Sorry, but i`m going AI. It`s too frustrating for me to continue this exercise in futility.
Mattyburn might try finding a sub - but I, personally, think it`s pointless.

revenant2 · #10 June 30th, 2012, 04:37 PM

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That`s just because i feel it`s cheap to gain advantage by hiding basic knowledge from other players.

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If you're a newb then I'm a monkey's uncle.

Maybe I`m not exactly a newb, more of a moderate player - but it didn`t matter because you already became unstoppable before reaching me, by feasting on Patala and later Midgard/Abyssia/Pan. And i had totally NO astral income barring my cap before I took some from Parone - so I couldn`t even dispel those Strands of arcane power you used to generate a huge gemincome.
Anyway, you`ve successfully invaded my heartland and will be storming my cap in approximately 3 turns. And I can do nothing to stop you. It doesn`t matter if I kill some of your troops, since you generate more per turn anyway. And there`s no way I can hurt your high-end summons.
Sorry, but i`m going AI. It`s too frustrating for me to continue this exercise in futility.
Mattyburn might try finding a sub - but I, personally, think it`s pointless.

You're spot-on about Strands of Arcane Power. It made a huge difference and found most of my non-death/astral gem sites within a few turns.

A dispel probably wouldn't have helped very much since SoAP is fairly cheap to cast and my astral income was already fairly high, so I just would have cast it again.

It's served it's purpose quite well, although it hasn't found anything in many turns. I'll probably need to dispel it soon to make room for another enchantment. You can probably guess what that enchantment will be