what about the future?

[Fantomen]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

You mean for your birthday? (happy birthday)
Besides, the "share the development" tends to only work for corporations with teams of developers where a developer can be told what to do without getting pissed off.

It might not be the style of Illwinter, and they can do it however they wish, but open development is up and coming. And it works work many kind of teams. Overgrowth and Natural selection are two nice indie titles in open development right now. And they both have small teams working on their own.

I certainly respect if Illwinter wants to play stuff close to the chest, but please don't confuse that with making uneducated generalisations about what works and for whom. There are plenty of good ways to do develop games, and open development is one of them.

[Gandalf Parker]

I agree it was a generalization. But I wouldnt call it uneducated.
Im all for Open Source. I love SourceForge and other project organizing sites.
If you spent some time there you would quickly find out some of the pros and cons of it. A small percentage of open source projects finish. And the ones that do are often very very large projects with many developers coming and going from the pros/cons of open source development

Actually Ive been involved with open sourcing for decades. Im presently involved in two (both are games). I wouldnt call it up and coming. On the other hand I make most of my side monies nowadays involved with CrowdSourcing projects which is currently very hot (but beginning to peak).

And btw I definitely am not saying that something like Dom3 cannot be done as an open source project. Just that it wouldnt be done with Johan and even more Kristoffer.

[Eximius Sus]

Man, I'm new here, but it seems you don't say anything without massive backpedaling and extraneous qualifications. Do you actually have solid opinions about anything?

[Gandalf Parker]

Occassionally But it would be very rare that you would get to find it out.

For decades its usually been part of my job skills to avoid such. To give everyone in a conversation with some wins and seek to move a conversation further. Other words for such a skill might be mediation, moderating, diplomacy, or if you want to minimum wage it I guess customer support is another example. Particularly if opinions are those of the management.

Its the other side of the coin from people whose job it is to bring a discussion to an end.

[Foodstamp]

Originally Posted by Eximius Sus

Man, I'm new here, but it seems you don't say anything without massive backpedaling and extraneous qualifications. Do you actually have solid opinions about anything?

Somebody got homesick.

[Eximius Sus]

Originally Posted by Foodstamp

Somebody got homesick.

Eh?

[Eximius Sus]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

Occassionally But it would be very rare that you would get to find it out.

For decades its usually been part of my job skills to avoid such. To give everyone in a conversation with some wins and seek to move a conversation further. Other words for such a skill might be mediation, moderating, diplomacy, or if you want to minimum wage it I guess customer support is another example. Particularly if opinions are those of the management.

Its the other side of the coin from people whose job it is to bring a discussion to an end.

Is this your job? Although I'll admit. My job is usually to win discussions.

[Gandalf Parker]

Not at the moment. But it has been.
Its even been my job here. For Shrapnel.

But not at the moment. Now its just a natural tendency. And no reason to poison the waters as far as resume, referrals, and references.

[Fantomen]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

I agree it was a generalization. But I wouldnt call it uneducated.
Im all for Open Source. I love SourceForge and other project organizing sites.
If you spent some time there you would quickly find out some of the pros and cons of it. A small percentage of open source projects finish. And the ones that do are often very very large projects with many developers coming and going from the pros/cons of open source development

Actually Ive been involved with open sourcing for decades. Im presently involved in two (both are games). I wouldnt call it up and coming. On the other hand I make most of my side monies nowadays involved with CrowdSourcing projects which is currently very hot (but beginning to peak).

And btw I definitely am not saying that something like Dom3 cannot be done as an open source project. Just that it wouldnt be done with Johan and even more Kristoffer.

Failing to distinguish between the terms "open development" and "open source" seems rather uneducated to me.

[Gandalf Parker]

My apologies. It was an assumption on my part that you had confused the two.
Open Source as something up and coming is a wrong statement, but open development even more so. I was giving you the benefit of a doubt.
My error.

After all, open development is where we started.