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Old April 2nd, 2024, 03:19 PM
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The 2024 V17 upgrade is now available !



https://www.shrapnelgames.com/Camo_W.../WW2_page.html

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Some of you may have been wondering why there has not been any info on this year's updates

It's complicated and involves personal issues for both of us. We weren't exactly young when we started doing this in 1998 now add 26 years on to that. There were years when we had released two updates per year. Those days are long over

What I can tell you now is we will not be issuing this year's updates for both games together as has been SOP in the past

We HOPE to have the final release for winSPWW2 ready by the end of April 2024 and we HOPE to have the final release for winSPMBT ready before Christmas 2024

That is all the info I can provide for anyone at this time
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We are not ready to release and I don't know when we might be but we are still working on it

2 New Scenarios
16 Revised/Updated Scenarios
100 Updated Scenario files
1 New Campaign
1 Completely revised Campaign #13
114 New or Revised OOB Photos
43 Updated OOB files
14 New or Updated Graphic SHP files
25 New or Revised vehicle/aircraft Icons
31 New or Revised Encyclopaedia/Help Text file
1 New or Revised sound file
25 New complete or WIP maps
  1. Two new standard infantry unitclasses (UC172 and UC179) replace the old Bicycle unitclasses that were no longer used and were of no real use in the game in their old form
  2. Electronic garbage was appearing along the left side of some maps. This has been corrected
  3. All "cavalry" unitclasses now behave the same way in the same terrain types.

There *may* be changes made to those totals but if there are it will only be slight
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New and revised Icons in winSPWW2 v17

The list is a little shorter than was SOP in the past---one reason for that is everything that needed doing or re-doing has been done


*Icon # *Unit Name *Status

681 Daihatsu. Revised WinSPWW2v17
682 Armed Daihatsu Revised WinSPWW2v17
221 Gunboat-wooden deck NEW WinSPWW2 V17
222 Japanese Gunboat NEW WinSPWW2 V17
225 Russian DB Landing craft—Infantry NEW WinSPWW2 V17
226 Russian DB Landing craft–Vehicles NEW WinSPWW2 V17
235 Generic Landing Craft/barge NEW WinSPWW2 V17
1088 M4A3 Sherman Late (Olive green) Revised winSPWW2 v17
2251 NKS-26 Areosan NEW WinSPWW2 V17
2252 RF-8 Areosan NEW WinSPWW2 V17
4743 Chev 30 CWT LRDG NEW WinSPWW2 V17
4744 Sherman III Tunisia/Sicily NEW WinSPWW2 V17
4745 Tauchpanzer IV NEW WinSPWW2 V17
4746 Waffentrager-88 NEW WinSPWW2 V17
4860 Sherman IIA Khaki Green Revised winSPWW2 v17
4861 Sherman IIA Winter Revised winSPWW2 v17
4862 Sherman IIA Desert Revised winSPWW2 v17
8367 Heinkel He 45 pre-war Bulgarian Revised winSPWW2 V17
9127 Do-335 NEW winSPWW2 v17
9128 F4U-1A Corsair ( early ) NEW winSPWW2 v17
9129 KB-11A Bulgarian (early) NEW winSPWW2 v17
9130 KB-11A Bulgarian (Late) NEW winSPWW2 v17
9131 Avia BH-33 (Yugoslavian) NEW winSPWW2 v17
9132 Potez XXV(Yugoslavian) NEW winSPWW2 v17
9133 Fiat CR.20 Austria New winSPWW2 v17
9134 Fiat CR.20 Hungary New winSPWW2 v17
9135 Fiat CR.20 Poland New winSPWW2 v17
9136 Fiat CR.20 Spain New winSPWW2 v17
9137 Fiat CR.20 Italy New winSPWW2 v17
9138 Fiat CR.20 Paraguay New winSPWW2 v17 **Green OOB
9139 Fiat CR.20 Lithuania New winSPWW2 v17
9140 Vickers Vespa II Bolivia New winSPWW2 v17 **Green OO
9141 Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia New winSPWW2 v17 **Green OO
9142 Potez 25 Paraguay New winSPWW2 v17 **Green OO
9168 LSM(R) USN NEW winSPWW2 v17
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10 years after I asked for those the aerosanis appear

https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/show...hlight=aerosan

Now what should I ask for the future?

Bolivian & Paraguayan OOBs for Chaco War???

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10 years after I asked for those the aerosanis appear

https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/show...hlight=aerosan

Now what should I ask for the future?

Bolivian & Paraguayan OOBs for Chaco War???
I thank you for your request! haha! These new additions look awesome
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I am REALLY glad you mentioned that because when I went to build these examples I went to MOBHack and found the icons had not been added to those units which came as a shock as my SOP is to enter into the SHP then into the OOB's where needed and these ones I missed and still showed the sled I used as a placeholder when I built the unit and formations.........so thanks that saved me a lot of aggravation if this had been released that way

Here they are 3x normal size
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Bolivian & Paraguayan OOBs for Chaco War???
Yeah....funny

This is why
Entering 122 will give you the flag of Bolivia
Entering 123 will give you the flag of Paraguay

That is so "ambitious" individuals can build Chaco War scenarios using other nations to create the needed units and use those flags to make it all nice and tidy

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This is the list of ID tags that owners of the Extended game version can change for generated battles if they so desire but the feature was mainly added to allow experienced scenario designers the ability to show Non Game nation ID tags and Victory hexes in scenarios which allows scenario designers the ability to change either all the troops in a scenario to a non OOB nation


The trick is finding an ambitious individual so if you know one or want to become one all the tools are there to build a Chaco War scenario ( one already exists----scenario 0682 - Raiders of the Chaco 1/33 ) and/or create Bolivian & Paraguayan OOBs using generic Green and Red OOB's but both of those would be about as interesting and useful to the vast majority of players as the Thailand OOB which was created by an ambitious individual then promptly ignored by 99+% of players though I am sure somebody at some point has actually played as Thailand ( it does have a good looking airforce with it's own unique Icons)
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We are currently testing the installer and we tentatively expect the update will be available in early May
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Bolivian & Paraguayan OOBs for Chaco War???
Yeah....funny

This is why
Entering 122 will give you the flag of Bolivia
Entering 123 will give you the flag of Paraguay

That is so "ambitious" individuals can build Chaco War scenarios using other nations to create the needed units and use those flags to make it all nice and tidy

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This is the list of ID tags that owners of the Extended game version can change for generated battles if they so desire but the feature was mainly added to allow experienced scenario designers the ability to show Non Game nation ID tags and Victory hexes in scenarios which allows scenario designers the ability to change either all the troops in a scenario to a non OOB nation


The trick is finding an ambitious individual so if you know one or want to become one all the tools are there to build a Chaco War scenario ( one already exists----scenario 0682 - Raiders of the Chaco 1/33 ) and/or create Bolivian & Paraguayan OOBs using generic Green and Red OOB's but both of those would be about as interesting and useful to the vast majority of players as the Thailand OOB which was created by an ambitious individual then promptly ignored by 99+% of players though I am sure somebody at some point has actually played as Thailand ( it does have a good looking airforce with it's own unique Icons)
I created the one and only scenario around this as DRG pointed out, Raiders of the Chaco.
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Bolivian & Paraguayan OOBs for Chaco War???
Yeah....funny

This is why
Entering 122 will give you the flag of Bolivia
Entering 123 will give you the flag of Paraguay

That is so "ambitious" individuals can build Chaco War scenarios using other nations to create the needed units and use those flags to make it all nice and tidy
Well the ground equipment is all there...
Only missing are appropriate airplane icons...

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The trick is finding an ambitious individual so if you know one or want to become one all the tools are there to build a Chaco War scenario ( one already exists----scenario 0682 - Raiders of the Chaco 1/33 ) and/or create Bolivian & Paraguayan OOBs using generic Green and Red OOB's but both of those would be about as interesting and useful to the vast majority of players as the Thailand OOB which was created by an ambitious individual then promptly ignored by 99+% of players though I am sure somebody at some point has actually played as Thailand ( it does have a good looking airforce with it's own unique Icons)
BTW the way I did play a short 10 battle campaign versus Thailand (as France) &
I was attacked by those good looking aiplanes...

Maybe if you created in a future update some appropriate airplane icons and added them as units in the Green & Blue OOB (as done for Croatian & Swiss air)?

Just an idea...

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