The Daily Iraq errors report

[DRG]

Unit 87: 105mm M102 FG
Final availability date to be restricted to 4/2003.

Marcello

Should I assume then that unit 172 gets the same restrictions which would mean Formation 255 needs to end 4/2003 which would also mean formation 250 has the wrong end date for the opposite reason ?


Don

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by DRG

Marcello

Should I assume then that unit 172 gets the same restrictions which would mean Formation 255 needs to end 4/2003 which would also mean formation 250 has the wrong end date for the opposite reason ?

Don

I was actually about to write about them.
Formations 250 and 255 can be respectively increased and cut at 4/2003 too. 4/2003 cutoff for unit 172 too.

[Marcello]

Unit 369: Roland
Initial availability date should be moved back to 1/1981 at least

SIPRI lists 1981 and it was officially confirmed by the french government in 2003
“A French Foreign Ministry spokeswoman said Friday that Roland 1 missile systems were sent to Iraq from 1980 to 1981 and Roland 2 systems from 1983 to 1986.”
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/oct...d/fg-missiles5


Unit 525: MT-LB w/ZU-23
A clone of it but with class 22 SP Flak should be made available with 1/1983-4/2003 as availability dates.
Source :http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...d.php?t=128154 (scroll down to the third post for an example)
In any case I have plenty of pictures of them on my hard disk and I can post more if necessary. Apparently they were a rather common sight in the old iraqi army.

EDIT
I almost forgot: unit 392 should have a 4/2003 cutoff too.

[Marcello]

Unit 496: SB7L-360 Seeker
Icon should be changed to its proper n. 51

Unit 123: SA-342K
Final availability date should be restricted to 4/2003

Unit 126: BO-105 PAH 1
Final availability date should be restricted to 4/2003

Unit 926 Mi-17C
It should get some rocket pods, weapons 186 or 205.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...-0620E-771.jpg

[Marcello]

Units 93 and 177: 152mm D1
Wrong picture, current one is that of a ML-20, it should be changed to n. 11566.Final availability date should also be restricted to 12/1991.

A lot of infantry divisions were disbanded after the Gulf War
“The number of regular army divisions was cut from seven armored/mechanised and 20 infantry divisions to two or three armor divisions, three mechanised divisions and 11 infantry divisions.” http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../iraq/army.htm
The WW2 soviet vintage artillery pieces were likely flushed out of the system at that point. I haven’t found pictures of them in serviceable state in 2003.

Unit 608: M1A1 Abrams
It looks like the initial availability date should be anticipated further:

“Currently, the first four American tanks are at Besmaya Range Complex, with another 18 to be delivered within the next month. The 22 tanks will be used to train 11 Iraqi tank crews in each of thirteen future 45-day rotations. Iraq has purchased 140 M1A1Abrams tanks, scheduled for delivery in August 2010.”
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?op...548&Itemid=128

[Marcello]

Wrong picture, current one is that of a ML-20, it should be changed to n. 11566

Sorry, I got it mixed: n.11566 is a D-20, n.36139 should be a D-1

Unit 534 M-60P APC from OOB 41 (Yugoslavia) t should be added as class 32 scout vehicle. Availability dates 1/1985-4/2003.
It could be armed with weapons 52 and 61 (better not to waste increasingly scarce weapons slots on BMGs).

According to “The Iraqi Army: Organization and Tactics” They were used as scouts vehicles. There are also pictures of them in Iraq. Here is one I found on the web some time ago.




Also a couple of notes about national ratings
Base experience drops from 60 to 55 at the beginning of 1990. IMHO that should happen after Desert Storm, as the sanctions took their toll restricting the availability of spare parts and others resources necessary for training. Also many experienced leaders left the army in the early 90’s.
I think that the experience drop should take place in 1992 or 1993 and be reversed back to 60 in 2009 or so, as the new iraqi army stabilizes and continues training along western methods.

[Marcello]

With unit 82 160mm Mortar getting a 4/2003 cutoff, as suggested previously, the related units and formations should stop at that date too.
Formations 230-231-232-233 should get a 4/2003 cutoff.

Unit 805 2x120mm Mortars could be deleted/renationalized/changed to something else.

120mm mortars are being organized in batteries of nine tubes.
Source http://www.longwarjournal.org/archiv...y_force_26.php

[DRG]

OK Marcello but it's time to take a little break from this and wait for the patch to come out. I do not have time to change, adjust and test OOB's and picklists any longer.

Don

[Marcello]

OK, I will let this thread rest for the time being...

[DRG]