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Old September 16th, 2012, 03:37 PM

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Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)
I understood Eater is an unique creature. Only one can exist at the time.
The eater of the dead has multiple forms. Its initial form is unit 994 and the game checks to see if that unit exists. If it does, then casting the spell again will fail. Once the eater grows in power and shifts to unit 995 then you can successfully cast the spell again since the game will not find that unit 994 already exists.
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Ok, 5 by 5.
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Can all of these be resummoned once they are killed? I know this works for demon lords, I asume it works for the rest?
That should be the case. I haven't tested it with all the national summons but the elemental royalty certainly work that way.
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Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)
I understood Eater is an unique creature. Only one can exist at the time.
The eater of the dead has multiple forms. Its initial form is unit 994 and the game checks to see if that unit exists. If it does, then casting the spell again will fail. Once the eater grows in power and shifts to unit 995 then you can successfully cast the spell again since the game will not find that unit 994 already exists.
Yowza! Thanks. The game's intricacies never seem to get exhausted, nor the level of detail you guys know :-)
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Can all of these be resummoned once they are killed?
CBM Firebirds can definitely be resummoned. Also the elemental royalty, as already mentioned. I *think* the demon aristocracy (or should that be malocracy?) can be, as well.
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They can be resummoned, they retain curses, horrormarks, afflictions (they get a few heal checks on summoning them, I don't know how much).

If I recall correctly they retain prophet status. But not the magic levels. Do not know if they remain domspread, or if you can reappoint a prophet when they die.

Empowerments are also removed on resummoning.
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They can be resummoned, they retain curses, horrormarks, afflictions (they get a few heal checks on summoning them, I don't know how much).
Ahh, thx, that explains the crippled ice devil I just summoned. I thought that was part of his flavor like the one with useless icicles for hands.
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They can be resummoned, they retain curses, horrormarks, afflictions (they get a few heal checks on summoning them, I don't know how much).
Ahh, thx, that explains the crippled ice devil I just summoned. I thought that was part of his flavor like the one with useless icicles for hands. He was quite disappointing.
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The Ice devils are considered to be the weakest of the unique devils. Still nice thugs/sc's. But a few nations that can get them also have better access to thugs (I'm looking at you, skrattir).
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If I recall correctly they retain prophet status. But not the magic levels. Do not know if they remain domspread, or if you can reappoint a prophet when they die.
I think they do, like if someone else gets control of your prophet (the prophet starts spreading the other player's dominion).


We should probably discuss the Djinn, who can only exist one at a time. He's summoned from the magic lamp artifact, causing the lamp to disappear. If someone else makes the lamp afterwards and uses the lamp he instead gets control of the Djinn, and I think all item he's currently wearing.

You can also wish for unique beings that already exist, and if you do and someone else already owns it you'll get control of the unit instead. (Items should disappear, as wished for units aren't commanders by default and need to have Gift of Reason thrown on them.)
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