OOB #013 (USMC) v5.5 errors

[Suhiir]

OOB #013 (USMC)

Weapon #076 40mm Bofors AAG
Used only by unit #573 AC-130E Big Gun
Currently Weapon Class 4 (Flak)
Should be Weapon Class 11 (off-map aircraft)

Unit #461 M1A1(HC) TUSK
Has Weapon #104 120mm M256 03
Has Weapon #105 120mm M1028
Unit #462 M1A1(HC) TUSK
Has Weapon #104 120mm M256 03
Has Weapon #105 120mm M1028
Unit #463 M1A1(HC) TUSK
Has No 120mm M256
Has Weapon #105 120mm M1028
Unit #641 M1A1 FEP Abrams
Has no 120mm M256
Has Weapon #105 120mm M1028

Unit #057 Patriot SAM
Has Range Finder 4, all other OOBs have Range Finder 0

((More to follow as I find them while update my OOB version to v5.5))

[Suhiir]

Next batch :

The speed of HMMWV's varies inconsistantly
Speed = 26 Unit #029 M966 TOW HMMWV(unarmored)
Speed = 24 Unit #051 Avenger HMMWV(unarmored)
Speed = 27 Unit #062 M1044 HMMWV(unarmored)
Speed = 27 Unit #067 M1026 HMMWV(unarmored)
Speed = 24 Unit #068 M1097 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 27 Unit #070 M1044 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 27 Unit #071 M1026 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 24 Unit #084 M1097 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 27 Unit #227 HMMWV FO(unarmored)
Speed = 27 Unit #234 HMMWV FO/GSR(armored)
Speed = 24 Unit #511 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 24 Unit #512 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 27 Unit #551 M1026 HMMWV(unarmored)
Speed = 27 Unit #552 M1044 HMMWV(unarmored)
Speed = 24 Unit #553 M1097 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 27 Unit #567 M1026 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 27 Unit #568 M1044 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 24 Unit #569 M1097 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 24 Unit #660 M1097 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 24 Unit #661 M1097 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 27 Unit #662 M1026 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 27 Unit #663 M1044 HMMWV(armored)
Speed = 26 Unit #664 HMMWV-MMG RWS(armored)
Speed = 26 Unit #665 HMMWV-HMG RWS(armored)
Speed = 24 Unit #666 M1097 HMMWV+(armored)
((In my OOB version I made all unarmored speed 27, armored speed 24))

Unit #471 ABV
Has no FC, RF, Stab, and (most importantly) Survivabilty ratings
ROF may also be lower then intended
Should it have VIRSS like all US MCBS type units?

[DRG]

I'll look at the HMMWV's but none of the various speeds we use strays outside of the range of speeds from various sources that rate the speed for that vehicle and the difference between 24 and 27 is one (1) Hex of cross country movement and don't you think that maybe all the extras added to the HMMWV to make it an Avenger might alter it's speed somewhat more than a what a blanket statment that the speed shall be 24 for armoured and 27 if not would cover ???. If the range was 18 - 30 I could see your point but all our speeds are with the 24-27 "limits"


OK, I'm with you on the Survivabilty rating for the ABV... it will be a bit fragile if confrounted with a real threat but FC, RF, Stab ratings for what ???...... a single defensive MG ??

How EXACTLY is that weapon "stabilized" ? WHY would it have FC & RF ??

Don

[Suhiir]

I never said the difference between 24 and 27 was significant, only that it existed *grin*

Again, not saying the ABV necessarily has FC, RF, Stab ratings ... but I wouldn't be surprised if it uses an RWS/CROWS type targeting system and perhaps should actually have ratings similar to other RWS/CROWS equipped units.
Personally I haven't looked at it the ABV close enough myself to know what, if any, targeting system it uses, so I just mentioned it in the same breath as the lack of a survivability rating.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

The ABV.
Mounts a manned 12.7mm on the commanders cupola with 2x8 shot electrically operated 40mm grenade launchers 1 mounted to each side of the superstructure, see pictures below. Was some talk of mounting 12.7mm RO gun station,, however I believe this has not occurred yet due to priority given to vehicles in the "light" MRAP category i.e. M-ATV and APC's to this point. I believe there's more in the MBT thread or other that dealt with the ABV can't remember which-sorry.
http://www.military-today.com/engineering/abv.htm
http://www.armyrecognition.com/unite...mation_uk.html
Pic:


I present also the GRIZZLY which was cancelled in 2001, which was designed to carry either an RO 12.7mm MG or a 40mm AGL. Initially these programs did cause some confusion much as what happened with the M60T being referred to as the SABRA MK3.
http://www.military-today.com/engineering/grizzly.htm
Pic:


Regards,
Pat

[gila]

An ABV is pure nonsense and a pie in the sky dreams a glint in some generals eye who has lost touch in reality and still beleives billions will still be spent on this and others with the current democrat president and economic problems we have in the U.S currently.. a waste of money IMO.

[Suhiir]

And for my next installment of "How to annoy DRG !"

OOB #013 (USMC)

Unit #906 A-7A Corsair II
Range Finder = 0
Every other A-7 in the OOB has 10


Seem to be some inconsistencies here (bolded the questionable values).
Again not saying they're necessarily wrong...just questionable.
Also Units 501 thru 505 don't indicate model (probably 'W').


Unit #498 AH-1G Cobra (2/69/12/70) UC=203 Attack Helo (Minigun, AGL, FFAR, FFAR)
EW=5 Vision=30 FC=6 RF=6

Unit #499 AH-1G Cobra (2/69-12/70) UC=203 Attack Helo (Minigun, FFAR, FFAR)
EW=5 Vision=30 FC=6 RF=6

Unit #118 AH-1J Sea Cobra (1/71-12/85) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, Minigun, Hydra, Hydra)
EW=4 Vision=20 FC=5 RF=6

Unit #120 AH-1T Sea Cobra (1-78-12/87) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, Minigun, TOW, Hydra)
EW=4 Vision=40 FC=5 RF=6

Unit #116 AH-1W (1/86-6/96) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, Hellfire, Sidewinder, Hydra)
EW=6 Vision=40 FC=15 RF=14

Unit #119 AH-1W (1/86-6/96) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, TOW, Sidewinder, Hydra)
EW=6 Vision=40 FC=15 RF=14

Unit #491 AH-1W (1/86-6/96) UC=221 Lt Attack Helo (20mm Gat, TOW, Hydra, Hydra)
EW=6 Vision=40 FC=15 RF=14

Unit #509 AH-1W (7/96-12/105) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, Hellfire, Sidewinder, Hydra)
EW=7 Vision=40 FC=25 RF=14

Unit #501 AH-1W (7/96-12/110) UC=221 Lt Attack Helo (20mm Gat, TOW, Hydra, Hydra)
EW=8 Vision=40 FC=25 RF=14

Unit #505 AH-1 SuperCobra (1/100-12/105) UC=222 COIN Helo (20mm Gat, APKWS, APKWS)
EW=6 Vision=40 FC=25 RF=14

Unit #502 AH-1 SuperCobra (1/106-12/120) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, Hellfire, APKWS, APKWS)
EW=8 Vision=40 FC=35 RF=14

Unit #503 AH-1 SuperCobra (1/106-12/120) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, TOW, APKWS, APKWS)
EW=8 Vision=40 FC=25 RF=14

Unit #504 AH-1 SuperCobra (1/106-12/120) UC=222 COIN Helo (20mm Gat, Hydra, Hydra)
EW=6 Vision=40 FC=25 RF=14

Unit #500 AH-1W (1/110-12/120) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, Hellfire, Sidewinder, APKWS)
EW=8 Vision=60 FC=40 RF=14

Unit #172 AH-1Z Viper (9/110-12/120) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, Hellfire, Sidewinder, APKWS)
EW=9 Vision=60 FC=40 RF=22

Unit #173 AH-1Z Viper (9/110-12/120) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, Hellfire, APKWS, APKWS)
EW=9 Vision=60 FC=40 RF=22

Unit #192 AH-1Z Viper (9/110-12/120) UC=203 Attack Helo (20mm Gat, Hellfire, Hellfire, APKWS)
EW=9 Vision=60 FC=40 RF=22

[Suhiir]

OOB #013 (USMC)

Unit #176 LVTH6
Armor-S 2 2 2 2 2 2 1
Armor-H 3 3 3 2 2 2 1

Unit #182 LVTP5
Armor-S 2 2 2 2 2 2 1
Armor=H 3 3 3 2 2 2 1

Unit #184 LVTC FO (Normally called an LVTC5)
Armor-S 2 2 2 2 2 2 1
Armor=H 4 4 4 4 4 4 2

[DRG]

I have NO IDEA what OOB you are looking at but the master OOB for the game has

Unit #182 LVTP5

Armor=H 3 3 3 3 3 3 1

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by DRG

I have NO IDEA what OOB you are looking at but the master OOB for the game has

Unit #182 LVTP5

Armor=H 3 3 3 3 3 3 1

You are correct, I was concentrating on unit #184 and missed that #176 and #182 were different as well.

Thanks !

Also :

Unit #604 LVTE-X MCV
Change Nation to 0 (this is the engineer version of EFV)

Unit #652 Ammo AAV-7A1
Dates should be 1/84-12/120

Unit #655 AAVC7A1/RAM(FO)
Dates should be 1/108-12/120