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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:48 PM

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Default Gold equivalence of blood slaves

I have been trying to find an equivalence between Blood slaves and gold. This is what I've considered:

1.- 3 Blood hunters per province, level 1 and with dousing rod. My tests show that they get 3,645 Blood slaves each aprox per turn.
2.- Consider a mage cost of 90 gold, sacred, that will live for 15 turns (most will live more but just choose that number from now on). The SDR has to be paid too. That makes for about 33G a turn for 3 mages.
3.- Consider a province near 5k that gives around 50-60k gold a turn put to tax 0%.

Giving all this a blood slave costs from 7-9g depending on the values used. But the important lesson learned here is that biggest part of price came from taxation loss.

I now compared that cost with unit cost (let's forget about free upkeep for now), so for example at 8g cost:

Sucubus costs 528g, storm demons 56g, ice devils 704g, dark vines 48g...

So first impression is that commanders are really expensive(compared to their recruitable cousins, 704g is about 40% more than a Niefel Jarl) and units in general cheap. That is of course balanced with the free upkeep if the troops survive that is .

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Default Re: Gold equivalence of blood slaves

90 gold per sacred blood hunting commander is very optimistic. Only one or two nations have better than that, and most are much worse.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 05:01 PM

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Default Re: Gold equivalence of blood slaves

60 is mictlan 80 is Lanka.

150 for blood 1 mages make the slaves cost 8,733g.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: Gold equivalence of blood slaves

What about if you have a Dousing bonus from your pretender, specifically the +15 from Fountain of Blood?

But also, most B1 mages are not old age, so capping their life expectancy isn't really necessary, is it? Many B2 mages are old age, but what is the difference in hunting efficiency with B2+rod vs B1+rod?

And also, while some nations do get extremely cheap B1 mages, what about nations like Pangaea, who only get very expensive blood mages?
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Default Re: Gold equivalence of blood slaves

If you use Dousing Rods, you might want to factor in their costs as well. Though it's a fixed cost, rather than a variable one.
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Default Re: Gold equivalence of blood slaves

Another cost to add is that of any commander + chaf army patrolling your province to keep unrest down.

Then again, another saving to consider is upkeep - the upkeep you're not paying for summoned units. In other words, to make a correct comparison against the cost of blood-summoned commanders, a Niefel giant's cost should be expressed as purchase cost of 500 gold (IIRC) + 500/15 * average nr. of turns of upkeep...
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