Star Trek, Quadrants of Conflict

[BlackRose]

Hey guys, cant really find anything that would fit the Tholian way of life as far as Intel goes, so i'm going to stick with CI 1-3 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Aiken]

Originally posted by BlackRose:
Hey guys, cant really find anything that would fit the Tholian way of life as far as Intel goes, so i'm going to stick with CI 1-3 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I guess, since Tholians are crystalline, computer-like beings, they should be rather advanced in Data processing and electromagnetic communications (hey comps are nothing without the network!). So they could develop some of these intel ops against their foes: Order Snafu, Communications Taps, Communications Mimic, Communication Interceptors.
Just some ideas http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[BlackRose]

Hmmm, very good ideas!

I'll go with Mimic, Interceptors and Taps if i'm allowed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Intimidator]

This is what I have sofar, so please to the rest send it to me.


Intell Ads:

Breen : 1. Intellegence Sabotage 2. Political Assassination 3. Planet Sabotage
Cardassian : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment 3. Queue Concentrations
Borg : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Counter Intel 3 3. TradeLine Disruption( assimilate those ships carrying the freight)
Federation : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Force Concentration 3. Intel Sabotage
Ferengi : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage 3. Communications Mimic
Romulan : 1. Communications Mimic 2. Order Snafu 3. Trade Disruptions
Klingon : 1. Counter-intel Level 3 2. Political Assasination 3. Ship Bomb
Dominion : 1. Counter Intel 3 2. Ship Bomb 3. Technological Espionage
Tholian : 1. Communications Taps 2. Communications Mimic 3. Communication Interceptors
Orions : 1. 2. 3.
8472 : 1. 2. 3.


Bajoran : 1. Ship Bomb 2. Food Contamination
Vaadwaur : 1. covert recon 2. technological espionage
Vulcan : 1. 2.
Hirogen : 1. 2.
Sheliak : 1. 2.
Kazon : 1. 2.
Gorn : 1. 2.

Inti,

[ April 16, 2004, 21:17: Message edited by: Intimidator ]

[dizzycow]

1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage

[Iansidious]

Just to make sure. All I need to download is the ST MOD right? No patchs or extra files? I'll try to get any extra shipsets off PBW. Oh, thanks for the link Ed.

[Iansidious]

Waiting for Inti to approve me for PBW! I'm READY! I'm READY! I'm READY! I'm READY! I'm READY! I'm READY! I'm READY! I'm READY I'm READY! I'mmmmmmm READYYYYYYYYYYYY! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

BTW I have the mod download. It didn't take as long as I thought. Which is always nice. I must say AT it looks SWEET! Just so I don't run into any problems, I put the ST map I got from Inti, in the maps folder of the ST mod. I did good?

[Intimidator]

Hi,

As soon as Iansidious has upload his Emp-file we will start.

But one little problem: I can't reach the PBW site, so I can't accept Iansidious as a player.

So we just have to wait !!

Inti,

[Atrocities]

PBW appears to be <font color=red>OFF LINE</font color> at the moment.

[Intimidator]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Noticed already !! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif


I looked at the map and rules again, and found it somewhat unbalanced for the Borg. Altough it got a good part of the space, it is not allowed to make any treaties. so it will lack the Borg of any trade. Because of the superiority of the Borg in the Star Trek Universe, I'm going to compensate the Borg with an Huge size Planet (It's not much but better than nothing)

I was also considering to give a Huge Planet to the Dominion, but want peoples opinion on this one (Renegade 13, I know your opinion already http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Inti,

[Aiken]

What you gonna do with Nausicaan? Drop 'em?

Edit: As for me it doesn't really matter what kind of Borg HW will be destroyed - large or huge.
Borg. Shall. Perish!!!!!!!!!
Dunno about Dominion - they are too far away.

[ April 17, 2004, 09:38: Message edited by: aiken ]

[BlackRose]

Use a Small/Medium Ring World for Borg and a Small Ring World for Dominion?

[Heretic]

Well, point is, as the brgs are soemtimes out there asimilating their fellow races, they should be some sort of advanced. therefore a small or normal ringworld woud fit fantastic for them, compensating for the lack of treaties and the adding to the fact that they are more( in trek tv much more advanced) than any other race.

[Intimidator]

Hi,

I agree with Blackrose and Heretic, but a medium sized Ringworld would be to much for the 3 minors surrounding the Borg.

And don't forget that 8472 was evenly advanced as the Borg, so we should give 8472 also an advantage. But do due to the game-engine such an advantage would be disastrous for the normal-majors in the alpha quadrant (I'm probalbly the first to encounter 8472 and the Borg, after the fleeing Hirogen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

So here is my Decision/proposal:

Borg : small Ringworld
8472 : Huge Planet
Dominion : Huge Planet

In this way their should be a possibility for the alpha-quadrant to survive the raging hordes from Delta and Gamma.

Intimidator,

Everybody who disagrees : please shoot (me)!!

[ April 17, 2004, 11:53: Message edited by: Intimidator ]

[Intimidator]

Aiken : No i will not drop the Nausicaan.

I will create 2 more minors: the Nausicaan (Next to the Gorn) and the Ktarians(up north, but in alpha).

I will control the both of them for the first 2 turns, after that will let the AI handle them.
But hopefully there will be humans to take it over within 3 turns.

Intimidator,

[Aiken]

I will shoot anybody who will be disagree, at least with the point concerning 8472 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Brilliant idea. I like it. Alot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 17, 2004, 12:01: Message edited by: aiken ]

[Renegade 13]

You know, I think I like this idea of yours....huge planet, nice wide open quadrant, ready for conquest and subjugation!! I just hope the damn Borg stay away from me!!

[Iansidious]

Ok I need more help. When I took a looked throgh the ST mod some of the mini pictures are missing. Do I need to download the patch for the pics? Or something else?

[Kiedryn]

I've just left for a few hours and you gave Borg : small Ringworld
8472 : Huge Planet
Dominion : Huge Planet

great, just great http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

You are from the Alfa quadrant, remember that!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Renegade 13]

Originally posted by Iansidious:
Ok I need more help. When I took a looked throgh the ST mod some of the mini pictures are missing. Do I need to download the patch for the pics? Or something else? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are you sure you downloaded the full Version, and not just the 1.72 patch??

[Aiken]

Originally posted by Intimidator:
BTW. Aiken: your 3 extra Intell ops please ??

(I think I forgot them again)

Inti, <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No Intel ads, thank you. CI, Crew insurection and Infiltrator are more than enough.

We are too fastidious to spend too many time amoungst borgish races, trying to sabotage their activities. We will use PoWeR of our BiOsHiPs instead.
V'Moth said.

[Intimidator]

A bit of self-confident is okay Aiken, but you can cross the limit!!!!!!

Inti,

[ April 17, 2004, 17:40: Message edited by: Intimidator ]

[Intimidator]

Kiedryn : I know, and probably the first one in the Alpha-quadrant to meet the Borg.

But I don't have to be afraid for the Dominion, because you are stopping them with your ships !! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Oh wait....... It's roleplay, so probably as soon as the Dominion arives you will join them........ http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Inti,

[ April 17, 2004, 17:44: Message edited by: Intimidator ]

[Iansidious]

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Iansidious:
Ok I need more help. When I took a looked throgh the ST mod some of the mini pictures are missing. Do I need to download the patch for the pics? Or something else? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are you sure you downloaded the full Version, and not just the 1.72 patch?? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh,yes. I did just added the patch. Still having the same problems http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif .

[Intimidator]

Ians. If you are only missing the mini pictures, you are probebly only missing 1 file.

Are you missing the components, planets, or facilities. Let me know and I send them to you.

(I had the same problem, the Last file of the components file (components)didn't overwrite the old one for some weird reason)

Inti,

[Intimidator]

Daily update:


Game : Star Trek, Quadrants of Conflict.
Mod : Star Trek Mod v1.7.2
Turns : 60 hours.
Map : Will be send to everyone of you asap, but STAR TREK Universe map.
Events : Medium / Catastrophic.
Technology Cost : Medium
Score Display : Own

No tech trade/gift.
But ship Trade/gift is allowed.


----Races:

Major Races: Good/Large Planet / 5000 Racial points

8472 : Aiken (Huge Planet)
Borg : Petra (Small Ringworld)
Breen : Atrocities
Cardassian : Tnarg
Dominion : Renegade 13 (Huge Planet)
Federation : Annika
Ferengi : Ed Kolis
Klingons : Alarikf
Orions : Tomecki
Romulans : Intimidator
Tholians : BlackRose

Minor Races: Good/Medium Planet / 2000 Racial points

Bajoran : Kiedryn
Vulcan : Dizzycow
Gorn : Mercurio33
Sheliak : RazoTSharp
Kazon : Ragnorak-X
Vaadwaur : Woundwort
Hirogen : Iansidious
Nausicaan :
Ktarian :


----Empire setup rules:

1. Planet and Atmosphere type from standard setup.
2. Every major race must pick up its own race culture.
3. Every major race must have their planet type world natives trait and their racial technology trait.
4. Happiness type from standard setup: ie, Renegades for 8472.
5. Everything else is to player's discretion.


----Intelligences limitations rules:

Every race has his own specific Intel-ops. they can use, described below.
And they can pick and additional 3 Intel-ops. of their own choice (2 for human-minor-races).
These ads however must be notified to the gamehost prior to the gamestart.(For rules-control purposes)

-- Crew insurection is forbidden (except for the Dominon and 8472)
-- And NO Planet-Taking-Intel-**** at all (find that unrealistic !!)

**8472**

Counter Intellegence 1-2
Crew Insurrection
Infiltrator

**Borg**

Counter Intellegence 1

**Breen**

Counter Intellegenc 1-3

**Cardassian**

Counter Inteligence 1-3
Intellegence Sabotage
Ship Bomb
Engine Damage
Fuel Leak
Cargo Bomb


**Dominion**

Counter Intel 1-2
Infiltrator
Population Destabilization
Political Assassination
Anarchy Groups
Industrial Sabotage
Communications Mimic
Crew Inssurection


**Federation**

Counter Intel 1
Communications Taps
Embassy Taps

**Ferengi**

Counter Intel 1
Economic Dissruption
Resource Procurment
Trade Disruption

**Klingon**

Counter Intel 1-2


**Orion**

Counter Intel 1-2
Planet Bomb
Planet Sabotage
Terrorist Bombing


**Romulan**

Counter Intel 1-3
Biological Weapon Deployment
Political Assassination
*Entire General Espionage File*
Weather Disruption
Ground Contamination
Food Contamination
Cargo Maintenance Problems
Communications Taps
Communications Interceptors


**Tholian**

Counter Intel 1-3


**All Minors**

Counter Intel 1-2


**Bajoran**

Political Assassination
Industrial Sabotage


Intell Ads:

Breen : 1. Intellegence Sabotage 2. Political Assassination 3. Planet Sabotage
Cardassian : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment 3. Queue Concentrations
Borg : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Counter Intel 3 3. TradeLine Disruption( assimilate those ships carrying the freight)
Federation : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Force Concentration 3. Intel Sabotage
Ferengi : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage 3. Communications Mimic
Romulan : 1. Communications Mimic 2. Order Snafu 3. Trade Disruptions
Klingon : 1. Counter-intel Level 3 2. Political Assasination 3. Ship Bomb
Dominion : 1. Counter Intel 3 2. Ship Bomb 3. Technological Espionage
Tholian : 1. Communications Taps 2. Communications Mimic 3. Communication Interceptors
Orions : 1. 2. 3.
8472 : 1. 2. 3.


Bajoran : 1. Ship Bomb 2. Food Contamination
Vaadwaur : 1. covert recon 2. technological espionage
Vulcan : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage
Hirogen : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment
Sheliak : 1. 2.
Kazon : 1. 2.
Gorn : 1. 2.



----Treaty Rules:

Borg : only Non-agression, with only 1 race at the time
(Example: they did have some sort of pact with the Voyager once, so they are willing to coorporate sometimes if it is in their interest)

Dominion : only 1 Partnership or Military Alliance, rest is unlimited.
(Example: Dominion/Cardasian pact)

All other Major Races : only 2 Partnerships or Military Aliances, rest is unlimited. (Example: Federation/Romulan/Klingon pact against Dominion)

All Minor Races : only 1 Partnerships or Military Aliance, rest is unlimited.


----Stellar Manupilation

You can use all of these techs except Warp point opening/closing.


---- NO RULE BUT RECOMMENDATION:

Do not entirly kill an race after winning the war, let him have an small or tiny planet. So that it is possible to get him back in the race after liberation or politics by a third party.
(Federation liberating Bajoran for example).


Let me know if there are any question, remarks or new ideas.

Intimidator

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Iansidious:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Renegade 13:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Iansidious:
Ok I need more help. When I took a looked throgh the ST mod some of the mini pictures are missing. Do I need to download the patch for the pics? Or something else? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are you sure you downloaded the full Version, and not just the 1.72 patch?? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh,yes. I did just added the patch. Still having the same problems http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif . </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Go to www.astmod.com/startrek/stm.htm (http://www.astmod.com/startrek/stm.htm) and refresh. Find the MIRROR site for the Components Facilities and down load it. That will fix your missing images.

Also the latest patch as only the Components not the facilities images.

The Full Version has them both.

IF you are still having problems after you download one of the above, then I don't know what to say.

[Iansidious]

Originally posted by Intimidator:
Ians. If you are only missing the mini pictures, you are probebly only missing 1 file.

Are you missing the components, planets, or facilities. Let me know and I send them to you.

(I had the same problem, the Last file of the components file (components)didn't overwrite the old one for some weird reason)

Inti, <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you read this first I emailed you.

[Iansidious]

Thanks AT.

[Iansidious]

Well, it seems I no longer have the facility, or the component problems. Although, some planets and warp points are still white blocks. I can live with that for awhile.

[Aiken]

Iansidious, have you downloaded imagemod's Planet pack?

Edit: And hurry up, because someone is pending join to the game as Hirogen. And he is not you, Ians http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 17, 2004, 22:04: Message edited by: aiken ]

[Intimidator]

Aiken : don't be afraid Hustler = Iansidious

Inti,

[Intimidator]

Iansidious : I just mailed you, but I see here that you solved the problem already. So I can still help you with the planets. So let me know by e-mail.

Frans

[Tnarg]

I am currently in a game with Gandalph and mentioned the Star Trek Quads of Conflict game to him and he sounded interested; however, when he looked I think he saw that it looked filled.

Someone else might want to email him and let him know that there are still two slots open, minors yes, but none the less interesting. He is a great role player and would be a great addition if we could convince him to join.

I am not sure if it is legite to post someones email address here, so I am not going to give that out, but I am sure that many of your have heard of Gandalph.

[ April 17, 2004, 23:06: Message edited by: Tnarg ]

[Intimidator]

Hello to all,

Due to the PBW-status today, and the status of Tomecki's computer. we will have to delay the game start for a while.

I'll keep you all informed, but even when it starts in 5 days it's still a quick start. (But I don't want tot delay another 5 days)


SORRY
Inti,

[ April 17, 2004, 23:21: Message edited by: Intimidator ]

[Iansidious]

Originally posted by aiken:
Iansidious, have you downloaded imagemod's Planet pack?

Edit: And hurry up, because someone is pending join to the game as Hirogen. And he is not you, Ians http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm sure I have it, but I try just in case.

[Iansidious]

Originally posted by Intimidator:
Hello to all,

Due to the PBW-status today, and the status of Tomecki's computer. we will have to delay the game start for a while.

I'll keep you all informed, but even when it starts in 5 days it's still a quick start. (But I don't want tot delay another 5 days)


SORRY
Inti, <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">*sniff sniff* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Intimidator]

Yes offcourse you like it, I just gave you a larger planet !! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Intimidator]

BTW. Aiken: your 3 extra Intell ops please ??

(I think I forgot them again)

Inti,

[Iansidious]

Yes, I do have the planet pack 9 pics aiken. I think Inti can help me. But still welcome help from anyone.

[Heretic]

i like it even better intimidator! Much larger planet than those itty bitty 8472er goons!!!!!

Ralf is laughing at me, perhaps all of you will grant me right of passage so that those federation redshirts will get what they deserve!

[Heretic]

You can of course take another aproach inti:
Let those 8472 borg and dominions keep their large or whatsoever planets and asign them a planet nearby with some technology on them in forms of ruins. So they got some advance in front of all others. That solves of couse not he borg trait of not being capable of getting ressources...

[Intimidator]

No, The Dominion and 8472 are not only more advanced but they have huge empires of their own.
The Dominion occupies a large part of the Gamma-quadrant. And 8472 even have their own Dimension.

So to simulate that they start with larger planets than the Alpha quadrant-majors.

But there are a lot of Alpha-quadrant-majors, so if 2 or 3 of them work together they can withstand at least one of them (8472/Borg/Dominion)

Inti,

[BlackRose]

Maybe if we delay long enuf we'll get those fancy new Tholian Weapons and mounts uploaded, now that would be fun, wouldnt it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

BTW PBW BU!

[ April 18, 2004, 01:11: Message edited by: BlackRose ]

[Aiken]

2 Intimidator: Ktarians are not listed as availiable race on pbw game description page. So could you please update it to allow people to see that where is one more free slot for neutral race.

2 BlackRose: some people (and I'm too) are very tired of STM patching frenzy. IMHO, it would be better not to hurry with the new quick fix, but spend a mounth making rock stable patch without serious bugs.

Thanx.

[Intimidator]

Taken care of Aiken.

Inti,

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by aiken:


2 BlackRose: some people (and I'm too) are very tired of STM patching frenzy. IMHO, it would be better not to hurry with the new quick fix, but spend a mounth making rock stable patch without serious bugs.

Thanx. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The truth of this does hurt deep, but I have to agree. The frequency of the patches has done more harm than good. Never the less the mod is where it is at now because I took the time to make the changes and get them out. Look to other mods and see where they are compared to this mod.

I hate having to release another patch so soon when I had no intention of releasing one for many months. However fait is an evil step mother and she delt me a nasty blow. That being said I am sincerely sorry about all the patches for the mod, and I am sure that if I had not been involved with the project that perhaps it would have been a better mod.

Never the less what is done is done and all I can do is continue fixing, tweaking, and such.

To be honest each time I put out a patch it was because I felt sure the patch was solid. Murphies law, my own stupidity, and just plain bad luck always seems to play into it though and the Last patch is never the Last patch. But with each patch the mod has improved.

I could have kept the mod under wraps and never released it until this Version (172) but that would have been nearly a year long delay. We had already been waiting a year for the mod. So if I have to be shot, at least I deserve a cigar for my efforts and not some cheap one either.

[Intimidator]

So people, hopefully the Last update.
As soon as Tomecki has uploaded his emp-file, we start. I would welcome 2 other human-minors but they can take over the Nausicaan and the Ktarian from me.

(I will control those 2 empire until taken over, my own race, The Romulans will not interfere with them in the early game. So I can control those 2 empires for a short while. If somebody doesn't agree, let me know and it's off. But I think it's a better idea than let them controlled by AI)


Game : Star Trek, Quadrants of Conflict.
Mod : Star Trek Mod v1.7.2
Turns : 60 hours.
Map : Will be send to everyone of you asap, but STAR TREK Universe map.
Events : Medium / Catastrophic.
Technology Cost : Medium
Score Display : Own

No tech trade/gift.
But ship Trade/gift is allowed.


----Races:

Major Races: Good/Large Planet / 5000 Racial points

8472 : Aiken (Huge Planet)
Borg : Petra (Small Ringworld)
Breen : Atrocities
Cardassian : Tnarg
Dominion : Renegade 13 (Huge Planet)
Federation : Annika
Ferengi : Ed Kolis
Klingons : Alarikf
Orions : Tomecki
Romulans : Intimidator
Tholians : BlackRose

Minor Races: Good/Medium Planet / 2000 Racial points

Bajoran : Kiedryn
Vulcan : Dizzycow
Gorn : Mercurio33
Sheliak : RazoTSharp
Kazon : Ragnorak-X
Vaadwaur : Woundwort
Hirogen : Iansidious
Nausicaan : Tribal55 (AI controlled by Host, but could be taken by other human)
Ktarian : Zieler12 (AI controlled by Host, but could be taken by other human)


----Empire setup rules:

1. Planet and Atmosphere type from standard setup.
2. Every major race must pick up its own race culture.
3. Every major race must have their planet type world natives trait and their racial technology trait.
4. Happiness type from standard setup: ie, Renegades for 8472.
5. Everything else is to player's discretion.


----Intelligences limitations rules:

Every race has his own specific Intel-ops. they can use, described below.
And they can pick and additional 3 Intel-ops. of their own choice (2 for human-minor-races).
These ads however must be notified to the gamehost prior to the gamestart.(For rules-control purposes)

-- Crew insurection is forbidden (except for the Dominon and 8472)
-- And NO Planet-Taking-Intel-**** at all (find that unrealistic !!)

**8472**

Counter Intellegence 1-2
Crew Insurrection
Infiltrator

**Borg**

Counter Intellegence 1

**Breen**

Counter Intellegenc 1-3

**Cardassian**

Counter Inteligence 1-3
Intellegence Sabotage
Ship Bomb
Engine Damage
Fuel Leak
Cargo Bomb


**Dominion**

Counter Intel 1-2
Infiltrator
Population Destabilization
Political Assassination
Anarchy Groups
Industrial Sabotage
Communications Mimic
Crew Inssurection


**Federation**

Counter Intel 1
Communications Taps
Embassy Taps

**Ferengi**

Counter Intel 1
Economic Dissruption
Resource Procurment
Trade Disruption

**Klingon**

Counter Intel 1-2


**Orion**

Counter Intel 1-2
Planet Bomb
Planet Sabotage
Terrorist Bombing


**Romulan**

Counter Intel 1-3
Biological Weapon Deployment
Political Assassination
*Entire General Espionage File*
Weather Disruption
Ground Contamination
Food Contamination
Cargo Maintenance Problems
Communications Taps
Communications Interceptors


**Tholian**

Counter Intel 1-3


**All Minors**

Counter Intel 1-2


**Bajoran**

Political Assassination
Industrial Sabotage


Intell Ads:

Breen : 1. Intellegence Sabotage 2. Political Assassination 3. Planet Sabotage
Cardassian : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment 3. Queue Concentrations
Borg : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Counter Intel 3 3. TradeLine Disruption( assimilate those ships carrying the freight)
Federation : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Force Concentration 3. Intel Sabotage
Ferengi : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage 3. Communications Mimic
Romulan : 1. Communications Mimic 2. Order Snafu 3. Trade Disruptions
Klingon : 1. Counter-intel Level 3 2. Political Assasination 3. Ship Bomb
Dominion : 1. Counter Intel 3 2. Ship Bomb 3. Technological Espionage
Tholian : 1. Communications Taps 2. Communications Mimic 3. Communication Interceptors
Orions : 1. 2. 3.
8472 : 1. 2. 3.


Bajoran : 1. Ship Bomb 2. Food Contamination
Vaadwaur : 1. covert recon 2. technological espionage
Vulcan : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage
Hirogen : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment
Sheliak : 1. 2.
Kazon : 1. 2.
Gorn : 1. 2.



----Treaty Rules:

Borg : only Non-agression, with only 1 race at the time
(Example: they did have some sort of pact with the Voyager once, so they are willing to coorporate sometimes if it is in their interest)

Dominion : only 1 Partnership or Military Alliance, rest is unlimited.
(Example: Dominion/Cardasian pact)

All other Major Races : only 2 Partnerships or Military Aliances, rest is unlimited. (Example: Federation/Romulan/Klingon pact against Dominion)

All Minor Races : only 1 Partnerships or Military Aliance, rest is unlimited.


----Stellar Manupilation

You can use all of these techs except Warp point opening/closing.


---- NO RULE BUT RECOMMENDATION:

Do not entirly kill an race after winning the war, let him have an small or tiny planet. So that it is possible to get him back in the race after liberation or politics by a third party.
(Federation liberating Bajoran for example).


Let me know if there are any question, remarks or new ideas.

Intimidator

[Randallw]

I'm interested in running the Nausicans. I have just downloaded the mod and am getting the components images.

Edit. Ok the mods set up, and the new images work. I am ready if you are prepared to let me join.

[ April 18, 2004, 12:01: Message edited by: Randallw ]

[Heretic]

Hi everybody!

Please note that i will soon post a revised shipset for the federation. I discovered some missing pictures in my first one so i corrected them. please feel free to get the correct image of the federation. At least you should remember a cool vessel blowing you out of this continuum...

A question: Is trade disruption the correct intel project? We wanted that project where you "intercept" the trade of a foreign state and put it to your own stock. O is this ressource procurement??

[Intimidator]

Hi,

I want everybodies opinion about waiting some more days, because the Last 2 slots are filled (some people mailed me), but they have to join and upload their empire.
I promised to start the game this weekend, so I want to know if somebody got some problems with waiting a bit longer.........

Inti,

[General Woundwort]

Better to wait until everyone is at the starting gate and poised to launch...

[Aiken]

Originally posted by Intimidator:
Hi,

I want everybodies opinion about waiting some more days, because the Last 2 slots are filled (some people mailed me), but they have to join and upload their empire.
I promised to start the game this weekend, so I want to know if somebody got some problems with waiting a bit longer.........

Inti, <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No problems at all for me. I have to finish RP background for my race anyway. So few days of delay will be even usefull.

[Heretic]

lets wait and get them roasted for waiting!!!!!!!

[Iansidious]

I don't mind wating. A few things to fix anyway.

[Intimidator]

Heretic : You are really agressive sometimes, maybe you could switch empires with Alarkf, He is the Klingon.

You are going to play those Federation pussy's http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Inti,

[Intimidator]

Yes...........

There it is, my promotion !!!!

Sergeant at Last http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 18, 2004, 21:18: Message edited by: Intimidator ]

[Kiedryn]

Congratulations Sergeant ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[AMF]

That's not such a bad idea...my playing style is always very cooperative, alliance building, peaceful...(of course I always die in the end, too...) so...if the Feds wanted to switch and be the Klingons instead...I'd consider it...

thanks,

Alarik

EDIT: although i am perfectly capable and more than ready and eager to play a bloodthirsty race like the klingons. So watch out!

Originally posted by Intimidator:
Heretic : You are really agressive sometimes, maybe you could switch empires with Alarkf, He is the Klingon.

You are going to play those Federation pussy's http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Inti, <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[ April 19, 2004, 14:52: Message edited by: alarikf ]

[Heretic]

No way inti!

I will try and prove those federation redshirts are more than goons.

Who knows perhaps picard is just a romulan copy and out for conquering the whole quadrant...

Or perhaps he is ghandi II...
(no more passive resistance!)


Well lets wait and see!
As i said before you are not slaved to the tv stories but of course will i stick to the general idea of the federations and turn not white to black... don´t worry!

[AMF]

Hmmmm....that's true....so I guess there is no reason why my klingons can be slightly more reliant on honour and less on warrior-ethos to enable them to be just a wee bit more cooperative with other races whom they find honourable...so take care, Federation, we klingons respect burliness...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


Originally posted by Heretic:

As i said before you are not slaved to the tv stories but of course will i stick to the general idea of the federations and turn not white to black... don´t worry! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[Intimidator]

Okay everybody

IT STARTED

HAVE FUN

[Atrocities]

I think the order is screwed up or something as I cannot upload my turn as Plr 9. Simply will not go.

The problem is the name of the file. The name the PBW server wants is differant than the Name the game gave the file.

PBW wants QConflict while the game generated a file named st-conflicts

[ April 19, 2004, 21:49: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Intimidator]

will look in to it

[Intimidator]

I made that mistake, but never knew he also mailed it

[Intimidator]

I've got only the Qconflict in my mail-box ??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

[Intimidator]

But don't worry Atrocities

somebody forgot to choose General-race, so he is sending me a new emp-file right away

And I will start again !!

Intimidator

[Intimidator]

Okay guys,

First attempt went wrong,

But hoppefully it works now !!

Let me know when there are any problems

Intimidator

[Atrocities]

Oh man, problem.

1. My feet hurt.
2. I have no money
3. I think I just tricked a player into surrendering
4. I had to redo my turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
5. My monitor is too small. 19" is just way to limiting.

Ohhh you meant for the game... Ahhh ok, sorry. No problems on my end, it all went well.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Oh man, problem.

1. My feet hurt.
2. I have no money
3. I think I just tricked a player into surrendering
4. I had to redo my turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
5. My monitor is too small. 19" is just way to limiting.

Ohhh you meant for the game... Ahhh ok, sorry. No problems on my end, it all went well. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ok, number 3 is part of the game, number 5 is not a problem and number 4 is minor unless you have maybe 200 planets.

See? your already down to two. Now, just hike to canada and you'll be down to 1. a really big one, but still only 1. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

You make me laugh Narf. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Hey Game Host please read the game forum there is a request for HELP there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
You make me laugh Narf. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thank you. I like making people laugh.

But that was kinda obvious, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 20, 2004, 09:45: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Intimidator]

Sorry, but another restart. Hoppefully everybody has his race-traits correct from now !!!!

Intimidator,

[Atrocities]

These things happen.

[Intimidator]

See ya all in Quark's

Inti,

[Ragnarok-X]

Uhm, Inti, you forget me. I sended you an updated empire file (using rock oxygen) about 3 or 4 days ago. Now my start is on a ice carbon dioxide world. what do we do ?

[Intimidator]

I only forgot you the 3th start, I used the correct file the first 2 times (stupied, should deleted the file right away)

But if the only change you made is the planet type, and you are okay with it. I will not kick you out of the game for rule-breaking http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Let me know.

Inti,

(I don't think we want a 4th restart)

[ April 20, 2004, 18:16: Message edited by: Intimidator ]

[Ragnarok-X]

of course im okay with it, as long as the other are okay with it, too. I dont want to hear a flamewar after 10 or 20 turns though...

[Atrocities]

I am cool

[Kiedryn]

It's ok with me.

[Heretic]

well actually when the borg assimilate a cd race IWe can much better optimize MyOur worlds.
So its okay with me and ralf asked a second before "what race ?What planet?" So it´s okay with him too!

[Ragnarok-X]

The Kazon will under no circumstances surrender to any race, weither it be organic, mechanic or cybernetic.

[Intimidator]

I still need some Intel choices of some of you, If somebody doesn't understand the rule let me know and I will explain.

Intimidator

Intell Ads:

Breen : 1. Intellegence Sabotage 2. Political Assassination 3. Planet Sabotage
Cardassian : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment 3. Queue Concentrations
Borg : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Counter Intel 3 3. TradeLine Disruption( assimilate those ships carrying the freight)
Federation : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Force Concentration 3. Intel Sabotage
Ferengi : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage 3. Communications Mimic
Romulan : 1. Communications Mimic 2. Order Snafu 3. Trade Disruptions
Klingon : 1. Counter-intel Level 3 2. Political Assasination 3. Ship Bomb
Dominion : 1. Counter Intel 3 2. Ship Bomb 3. Technological Espionage
Tholian : 1. Communications Taps 2. Communications Mimic 3. Communication Interceptors
Orions : 1. 2. 3.
8472 : 1. 2. 3.


Bajoran : 1. Ship Bomb 2. Food Contamination
Vaadwaur : 1. covert recon 2. technological espionage
Vulcan : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage
Hirogen : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment
Sheliak : 1. 2.
Kazon : 1. Ship Bomb 2. Covert Recon
Gorn : 1. 2.

[ April 22, 2004, 21:23: Message edited by: Intimidator ]

[AMF]

Now THAT is an attitude we Klingons can respect. We look forward to meeting you in battle or over ale where we can tell stories of battle.

Chancellor Kirala

Originally posted by Ragnarok-X:
The Kazon will under no circumstances surrender to any race, weither it be organic, mechanic or cybernetic. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[Intimidator]

Intell Ads update:

Breen : 1. Intellegence Sabotage 2. Political Assassination 3. Planet Sabotage
Cardassian : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment 3. Queue Concentrations
Borg : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Counter Intel 3 3. TradeLine Disruption( assimilate those ships carrying the freight)
Federation : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Force Concentration 3. Intel Sabotage
Ferengi : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage 3. Communications Mimic
Romulan : 1. Communications Mimic 2. Order Snafu 3. Trade Disruptions
Klingon : 1. Counter-intel Level 3 2. Political Assasination 3. Ship Bomb
Dominion : 1. Counter Intel 3 2. Ship Bomb 3. Technological Espionage
Tholian : 1. Communications Taps 2. Communications Mimic 3. Communication Interceptors
Orions : 1. Technological Espionage 2. Ship bomb 3. Counter Intel 2
8472 : 1. Biological weapons 2. Ship bomb 3. Counter Intel 3


Bajoran : 1. Ship Bomb 2. Food Contamination
Vaadwaur : 1. covert recon 2. technological espionage
Vulcan : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage
Hirogen : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment
Sheliak : 1. 2.
Kazon : 1. Ship Bomb 2. Covert Recon
Gorn : 1. 2.

Inti

[dizzycow]

hmmm it seems that my inisial reasech didnt chose.. I wasted all my points on the first projekt:( Im sure that I didnt forgot it.. but its ok... but if it is a know bug or someting please say so..

[Atrocities]

You might have researched the item complete and the que moved onto the next item. Or you did not deselect split points evenly and well...

<Font color=red>FYI: If you open the minister window and scroll down to the very bottom you can choose the option of preventing the AI Ministers from making changes to your game if you miss a turn. It is highly recommended that you select this option as it will save you a boat load of trouble later on.</font color>

[Intimidator]

Some of the players in this game are ussing hotmail, Your Messages are bouncing back.

Please let me know where I can reach you guys.

Intimidator

[Intimidator]

Hi,

As I told you all, I had some computer problems, all solved but lost a lot of data. I know some people send me their intel-adds, but I lost the Messages.
So please take a look if you are on the list, if not send them again (please)


Intell Ads :

Breen : 1. Intellegence Sabotage 2. Political Assassination 3. Planet Sabotage
Cardassian : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment 3. Queue Concentrations
Borg : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Counter Intel 3 3. TradeLine Disruption( assimilate those ships carrying the freight)
Federation : 1. Counter Intel 2 2. Force Concentration 3. Intel Sabotage
Ferengi : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage 3. Communications Mimic
Romulan : 1. Communications Mimic 2. Order Snafu 3. Trade Disruptions
Klingon : 1. Counter-intel Level 3 2. Political Assasination 3. Ship Bomb
Dominion : 1. Counter Intel 3 2. Ship Bomb 3. Technological Espionage
Tholian : 1. Communications Taps 2. Communications Mimic 3. Communication Interceptors
Orions : 1. Technological Espionage 2. Ship bomb 3. Counter Intel 2
8472 : 1. Biological weapons 2. Ship bomb 3. Counter Intel 3


Bajoran : 1. Ship Bomb 2. Food Contamination
Vaadwaur : 1. covert recon 2. technological espionage
Vulcan : 1. Ship Blueprints 2. Technological Espionage
Hirogen : 1. Communication Taps 2. Biological Weapon Deployment
Sheliak : 1. 2.
Kazon : 1. Ship Bomb 2. Covert Recon
Gorn : 1. 2.

Inti

[Iansidious]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
You might have researched the item complete and the que moved onto the next item. Or you did not deselect split points evenly and well...

<Font color=red>FYI: If you open the minister window and scroll down to the very bottom you can choose the option of preventing the AI Ministers from making changes to your game if you miss a turn. It is highly recommended that you select this option as it will save you a boat load of trouble later on.</font color> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How do you get that pretty color? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

[Intimidator]

Had problems again, so lost all my data again.
So I know I asked it already but please to all the players that are not on the Intel-add-list (see below): resend your intel choices.

Inti,

[Aiken]

So we have a final Version, can we upgrade our game up to 1.7.5 now?

We need a patch to update 1.7.2 to 1.7.5 (where's no such patch in the STM hp) at least. Then we can ask pbw admins to update our game. Anybody interested? Atrocities? Intimidator?

[Atrocities]

Patch 1.7.5 (http://www.astmod.com/zips/stm/STMv175Patch.exe)

And I have put in over 10 emails to PBW admins about updating and all it did was confuse them.

[Intimidator]

Will do this in a couple of days.

Inti,

[Aiken]

Thanks guys http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Can we, casual players, help with that somehow? Maybe we should post something in pbw admin request forum?

[Aiken]

bump

[astruskustuvas]

are we gona update game to 1.75 or not?

[Intimidator]

Our game is in need for an replacement for the Gorn minor race.


As soon as I know anything of the state of that empire, I will post it here.

For now : The Gorn are placed between the Federation, the Vulcan and the Nausicaan's

Inti,

(don't forget: Roleplay is important)

[Intimidator]

Bump !!

[AMF]

Ahhhh.....the game is back on. In the few weeks we had off, I had forgotten how much fun this game and this mod are.

The Klingon Empire is glad the universe overcame that temporal distortion....

Chancellor Kirala, for the Klingon Empire

[Intimidator]

Yes,

Summer is almost over, so no more vacation bull****.....just playing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Aerosol]

What minor races are still available? Are the Gorn still open?

[AMF]

It looks like they got snatched up by somebody...


Aerosol said:
What minor races are still available? Are the Gorn still open?

[AMF]

Perhaps we should move back to autoturns? Just a suggestion, not hard up about it...

Thanks,

Alarik

[Ragnarok-X]

Im definitly with alarikf, it stinks to wait several days just for one turn when the delay is caused by the same people over and over again.

[Aerosol]

are there any races at all open? This game looks fun Id like to get in on the action if at all possible.

[AMF]

I think at the moment, no, but if people keep getting their turns in late, there might be soon...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

I think you should be at the top of the waiting list...



Aerosol said:
are there any races at all open? This game looks fun Id like to get in on the action if at all possible.

[Intimidator]

Hi,

No, on the moment we don't have any spots open.

I will put the game on auto-turns, again. I was aware of the absence of some people, but all must be back by now.

I thought it was better for the game to put it on ALPU if almost half of the people are on vacation.

But from now on I will be hard http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif again.

3 times the Last players is a warning the next time: /threads/images/Graemlins/icon25.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Inti

[AMF]

Cool! yay!

Since we're back to being strict, let me tell you right now about dates I will be gone:

October 9-12 (running a marathon in Chicago)
Dec 4-7 (running a marathon in Tucson)
Dec 20-Jan 1 (Doing christmas somewhere...)

After that, I have no idea.

Thanks,
Alarik


Intimidator said:
I will put the game on auto-turns, again. I was aware of the absence of some people, but all must be back by now.
...But from now on I will be hard http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif again.

3 times the Last players is a warning the next time: /threads/images/Graemlins/icon25.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Inti

[Intimidator]

Okay Alarikf, I wrote the date's down.

But please remember me again, 2 days before you are actualy leaving.

Inti,

[Ragnarok-X]

Anyone else having problems with the latest turn ? I get an error telling me the turn cant be loaded and then SE 4 exits with a fatal error at address x. Its not the data folder this time though. any ideas ?

[Aiken]

Apparently that turn file is broken. I have same problem as Ragnarok-X.

Intimidator, please redo this turn offline.

[Intimidator]

Am aware of the problem (same by me).

But how must I redo this turn.

Don't have the player-files, or is it possible by PBW......please let me know

Inti,

[Tomecki]

I have same problem as Ragnarok-X and aiken. Latest turn make problems with starting the game.

[Intimidator]

Okay, it is clear now that something went wrong in the proces. But how do I solve it, Or is the only option replaying the latest turn?????

Intimidator

[AMF]

Go to "admin options" at the game site.

At the top, click the link that says "download files for this turn" 9or something like that.

unpack them into your Star Trek mod directory.

Load the game as "game master" (you'll need the GM password, which, presumably, you have)

Hit "end turn" to process the turn.

The game will process and then spit out the GAM file, which you then can upload to the PBW site in the Admin section (scroll down to "upload replacement turn").

Before uploading the replacement turn you might want to load it up as you the player to see if it remains corrupted.



Intimidator said:
Okay, it is clear now that something went wrong in the proces. But how do I solve it, Or is the only option replaying the latest turn?????

Intimidator

[Intimidator]

Thanks, but I tried this already and isn't working. If I download the files for this turn, I get turn : 43 and that's the one that isn't working.

So even as an gamemaster I can not load those files, and even if I could I think he processed to turn 44. instead of 43.

My sugestion now is to replay turn 42. Will wait with uploading until tomorrow, so maybe somebody has an better solution.

Thanks,

Intimidator

[AMF]

The site says the game is on Mod Version 1.7.2, but my system tells me I have been using mod Version 1.7.1 this entire time. Is it possible that the PBW admins upgraded the game to 1.7.2 and we're all just behind the curve?


Intimidator said:
Thanks, but I tried this already and isn't working. If I download the files for this turn, I get turn : 43 and that's the one that isn't working.

So even as an gamemaster I can not load those files, and even if I could I think he processed to turn 44. instead of 43.

My sugestion now is to replay turn 42. Will wait with uploading until tomorrow, so maybe somebody has an better solution.

Thanks,

Intimidator

[AMF]

Actually, I can test this by installing 1.7.2.....hold on...


alarikf said:
The site says the game is on Mod Version 1.7.2, but my system tells me I have been using mod Version 1.7.1 this entire time. Is it possible that the PBW admins upgraded the game to 1.7.2 and we're all just behind the curve?


Intimidator said:
Thanks, but I tried this already and isn't working. If I download the files for this turn, I get turn : 43 and that's the one that isn't working.

So even as an gamemaster I can not load those files, and even if I could I think he processed to turn 44. instead of 43.

My sugestion now is to replay turn 42. Will wait with uploading until tomorrow, so maybe somebody has an better solution.

Thanks,

Intimidator

[AMF]

Of course, I was really just being silly, notifying that far in advance is just out of control.

I just wanted to give the Romulans a chance to plot when exactly to try to overthrow the Klingon high council (hah! yeah, right...)

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



Intimidator said:
Okay Alarikf, I wrote the date's down.

But please remember me again, 2 days before you are actualy leaving.

Inti,

[Intimidator]

Hi,

Alarikf: We are ussing 1.7.2 from the start. So I guess you we're lucky to be able to play that long (HEY, Maybe you are the reasson of screwing the game up right now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

In any case, I'm going to upload the old turn and hopefully after that it will be processed normally.

Intimidator

[Intimidator]

Old turn uploaded !!

[AMF]

Ok, if my mod info is correct, and I have been using 1.7.1 all this time, it seems plausible that my turn screwed up the game. BUT, I can't seem to download mod 1.7.2 anywhere. Can someone post a link that works for it so I can get it tonight when I get home? I really think my mod info file is just mislabeled as 1.7.1 when it is really 1.7.2, but I will check, correct, and resubmit turn tonight.

thanks,

Alarik

EDIT: and, hey, if it is me that has screwed up the turn for everyone, VERY VERY sorry!


Intimidator said:
Hi,

Alarikf: We are ussing 1.7.2 from the start. So I guess you we're lucky to be able to play that long (HEY, Maybe you are the reasson of screwing the game up right now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

In any case, I'm going to upload the old turn and hopefully after that it will be processed normally.

Intimidator

[Aiken]

afair, STM patch 1.7.2 was lacking proper revision and modinfo files, so my STM 1.7.2 still shows that its Version is 1.7.1.

[AMF]

yeah, that's what I thought as well.

Is there any way that you know of to check what Version one *really* has?




aiken said:
afair, STM patch 1.7.2 was lacking proper revision and modinfo files, so my STM 1.7.2 still shows that its Version is 1.7.1.

[Intimidator]

As a gamemaster for this game, I needed to be sure to have to correct 1.7.2 myself. So before the start of this game I did the FULL download.

So I'm sure if some of uss is ussing the wrong Version we should have noticed it a long time ago....

But before the executting of the new turn I will download everybodies turn-file, so we don't have to do this turn again. And then we will see if it works.

If not I will run the game as an PBEM until the problem is solved.

Intimidator

[Ed Kolis]

my 1.72 has revision files, and it even says the Version on the splash screen... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

Why don't we just upgrade to 1.75 and sort this whole mess out? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Aiken]

Ed Kolis said:

Why don't we just upgrade to 1.75 and sort this whole mess out? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif



Indeed, why not?

[Intimidator]

You are both right, Vacation is over so I Will see to it soon (again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )


Inti,

[Intimidator]

Star Trek Roleplay game needs replacement players.


Races:

Sheliak
Gorn

[AMF]

Bump!


Intimidator said:
Star Trek Roleplay game needs replacement players.


Races:

Sheliak
Gorn

[Renegade 13]

If anyone wants some information about the Sheliak, I can provide it. I'm their only neighbour, and surround their empire completely. However, we were allies until the AI took over and declared war on me. I haven't gone into their territory yet to attack them, merely defended myself, as I thought someone might be more inclined to take an empire over that has some prospects, rather than one that has been decimated by the Dominion. If more information is desired, tell me and I'll write some more stuff up.

[Intimidator]

bump!!

[Intimidator]

(I will try it gain)

This Star Trek, roleplay game, needs replacements players.

For the Vulcan , Gorn and Sheliak.
I dunno anything about the condition of those empires.
But it's RPG not killing to the death.

We are also ussing an somewhat ST-based map, for some extra realism.

So please join.

Intimidator

[Tnarg]

I must say that this game is starting to get very interesting as far as role play. All of you that are sticking to your guns and character, kudos to you.

I am curious to know what everyone thinks of the map so far?

[Renegade 13]

The map's great. Love it!

[Intimidator]

Perfect map Tnarg,

It's exactly what I needed for this game.
And indeed, it took some time but on this moment I really control the Romulans as they are !!

On this moment some Messages reach me about some evil-empires from the Delta and Gamma quadrant.......Who will that be ???? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ragnarok-X]

It must be the Kazon, the most powerful and evil race in the entire galaxy !! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Renegade 13]

Evil races in the Gamma quadrant?? Nope, couldn't be the Dominion...after all, we aren't evil, we just want to save you all from your own extreme ignorance, and bring you under our enlightened rule. That's not evil, is it?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Intimidator]

HELLO !!!!!!!

I'm sure that there are people out their who like Star Trek, so somebody :

Please join the game to play this ST RPG game,

3 minor races are open (Vulcan / Gorn / Sheliak)
Please respond, because the longer it takes the longer the AI f**ks it up.............. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Aerosol]

Ive been wanting to get in on this game, so ill take whoever is available.

[Atrocities]

The Breen will resist you!

[Nimitz]

This looks intresting.

I'd like in as the vulcans if that would work.

[Ragnarok-X]

Aerosol and Nimitz, rush to www.pbw.cc (http://www.pbw.cc)

Register there and click on "view all games". Then look for the Startrek Quadrants of Conflict game and apply to join it !! Rush to it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Intimidator]

Thanks Ragnarok.......

I hope to see the both of you soon in the game.
For questions come to this forum or mail me.

Inti,

[Atrocities]

The Breen shall prevail.

[Nimitz]

That would be illogical.

BTW what Version of the mod are we using 1.7.2 or 1.7.5?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Gee, I wonder what race Nimitz likes? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Renegade 13]

Nimitz said:
That would be illogical.

BTW what Version of the mod are we using 1.7.2 or 1.7.5?



As far as I know, we're using 1.7.2

[Nimitz]

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Gee, I wonder what race Nimitz likes? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif



Actually I like the Fedies but as they're taken I went with my second choice.

BTW does anyone know where I can get 1.7.2 as have 1.7.5 but can't find 1.7.2 on the site.

Never mind I managed to track it down on the site, also I noticed that there is a far bit of customization so if some one could send me the non default files I need to be in the game I would be grateful.

[Tomecki]

Hi All


Intimidator said:
Intell Ads update:
Orions : 1. Technological Espionage 2. Ship bomb 3. Counter Intel 2
Inti



I see that there's a mistake in my intell ads, i send You Couter Intel 3 not 2. Could you correct it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

(2 a have in basic rules:
**Orion**
Counter Intel 1-2
Planet Bomb
Planet Sabotage
Terrorist Bombing)

[Intimidator]

Will see into it Tomecki,


WE STILL NEED TWO REPLACEMENTS !!!!!!

[Intimidator]

I need an link to the STM 1.7.2 download site.

Anybody ??


EDIT: found it already..........

http://www.astmod.com/startrek/download.htm

[Intimidator]

Mercurio33,

If you are still around !!??!!

Please mail me the PW you used for the Gorn in this game ??

fwhesseling@tiscali.nl

Intimidator

[Aiken]

Inti, try to get in touch with him via email. See PM for Mercurio's address.

[Intimidator]

Thanks Aiken,

But the PBW admin gave the PW already.



So we only need an replacement for the Sheliak.
But the game is filled again, now hope that the AI didn't screw up to much, for the Gorn and the Vulcan.

[Tomecki]

Perhaps, it is a good time to upgrade our game to STM Version 1.7.5.

Tomecki

[General Woundwort]

Guys, I will be migrating my phone and e-mail much sooner than anticipated (next week), and I need someone to replace me as leader of the Vauuduars. Please PM me if you're interested.

[Ragnarok-X]

Lately turns have been taken ages...i hope the game continues a lot faster...

Woundwort: Hurry, each second makes the Borg stronger...

[AMF]

IC: The Klingon High Command would like to issue a policy statement on the status of exiled Klingon clans. Klingon society, as all enlightened (even dishonorable ones) species should know, is the perfect by product of clan competition. This constant competition ensures that Klingon society is, frankly, the most effective and efficient form of interstellar society possible. Only the strongest and wisest Klingons and their clans rise to the higher levels of rulership (for the benefit of all, of course). However, by the nature of inter-clan competition, those clans who are on the losing side of these struggles sometimes find themselves stripped of their lands and hence their honor.

The only ways for clans in such a condition to regain their honor and resume their place in society is to find lands elsewhere, or to perform some great service to the Klingon people. For this reason, occasionally, these clans may be found even in parts of the galaxy very distant from the Klingon Empire. In such instances these clans are seeking out new lands to claim for their clans and thereby regain their honor and status.

While the Klingon High Command does not see the need for any further official colonization efforts, such wayward clans may yet be encountered across the quadrant. As these clansmen are Klingons, they will be afforded the full protection of the Klingon High Command. But they are not related to any large scale colonization efforts. We ask that the other races of the quadrant take this into account when dealing with these clans. We encourage any races to inform these clans of potential settlements they might make, for by doing so they can regain their honor. They will, furthermore, be doubtless grateful to any races who assist them in these efforts and will surely render their assistance to them. As the entire galaxy knows, Klingon warriors are unparrelled in their skill and daring, and enlisting the aid of these clans would doubtless be of use to other races. When approaching such Klingon Clans or their outPosts, we ask the other races' representatives to address their enquiries not to the Klingon High Command, but to the clans themselves. The clans will respond as thier interests dictate - but it is to be remembered that they will doubtless be very grateful to any races who assist them in finding a planet to settle.

OOC: Aside from some internal colonization efforts, the Klingon Empire is pretty much finished with large scale expansion (unless something strange happens). However there are a number of individual clan ships out there distant from our borders - their raison d'etre is explained above. If a player wants to deal with them as exiled klingons, we ask that they indicate that in their message to me, and I will respond in kind acting as them in-character. Of course, the Klingon High Command will still not tolerate attacks on these rogue clans, as we protect all klingons. But otherwise, they will be relatively independent entities. They will, as noted above, be very grateful to any assistance they receive in finding planets to settle as this will help them regain their lost honor. Such gratitude would, undoubtedly, include concrete assistance to the power that helped them out...