PBW RACE TO SEV TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS [Archive]

tesco samoa

June 21st, 2004, 03:02 AM

PBW Race to SEV

Tournament of Champions

Space Empires Play by Web and Malfador Machinations proudly present Race for SEV play by web tournament. Entry to the tournament closes on August 1st �and is available for all registered PBW players. �Cost to enter is 20 U.S. dollars. �Proceeds from the tournament will be donated to PBW to pay for monthly server costs. Any questions please contact admin@pbw.com

Prizes.
 5 Beta test slots for Space Empires Five (donated by Malfador Machinations) 4 copies of Space Empires Five (donated by Tescosamoa and Suicide Junkie) 1 SEIV personalized entry screen (donated by David E. Gervais) 1 SEV personalized entry screen (donated by David E. Gervais) 3 SEIV personalized ship sets (donated by Atrocities) 1 SEIV personalized entry screen for all tournament players (donated by David E. Gervais) 5 20 dollar gift certificates for Red Lobster / Olive Garden (donated by Wardad) 1 25 dollar gift certificate for Shrapnel Games. (donated by Shrapnel Games)
Tournament Rules.

 All participants must be a registered PBW player. If you have not registered please do so at PBW (http://seiv.pbw.cc) 20 U.S. Dollars must be paid to PBW via Pay Pal ( http://seiv.pbw.cc/donate.html ) In the payment notes please add Entry FEE for Race to SEV. PWB Nick = ( Your PBW Nick ) Once this payment has been verified you will be entered into the tournament. Your nick will be assigned to a PBW Race to SEV game by a Game Administrator. There will be 4 initial games set up. Players will be added evenly to each game until the maximum 20 positions are filled. If this occurs then another game will be added and all games will be evened out. This process will be repeated until August 1st. On August 5th the games will be created on PBW and the Game administrator will add the players to the games. Each player will be sent an email detailing the Game rules and a link to the SEIV personalized entry screen. All players must have their empires loaded and ship set selected by August 12th. If you cannot get your empire in at this time please email you empire file to you Game admin ahead of time. If you do not have your empire loaded on August 13th the Game Admin will upload a generated empire for you and send you an email with its password. On August 15th the tournament will start. The winners from round one games will be advanced to the final round. The final round game will begin 1 week after the completion of round one.
Game Rules
 Starting resources: 100000 Starting planets: 3 Home planet value: Good Score display: Own Technology level: Low Racial points: 2000 Quadrant type: spiral Quadrant size: Medium ( 5 systems per player up to a max of 100 systems ) Event frequency: None Event severity: Low Technology cost: med Victory conditions: one winner Maximum units: max Maximum ships: max Computer players: na Computer difficulty: na Computer player bonus: na Neutral empires: No Other game settings:No Surrender Trading will be turned off. 48hour Automated Turn.

Prize Payouts
 1st place. Beta Test slot for SEV and a personalized entry screen SEV 2ndplace. Beta Test slot for SEV and a personalized entry screen for SEIV 3rdplace. A copy of SEV and a ship set from Atrocities 4th place. A copy of SEV
Random Prizes to be given out at the end of the tournament.
 3 Beta Test slots for SEV 2 copies of SEV 6 gift certificates

[ June 25, 2004, 11:25: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

Phoenix-D

June 21st, 2004, 03:29 AM

A 20 player PBW game? Side bets on the tourny being done by the time SE5 comes out? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Captain Kwok

June 21st, 2004, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
A 20 player PBW game? Side bets on the tourny being done by the time SE5 comes out? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif I believe it is approx. 5 systems per player, so the action will be fast and furious.

Joachim

June 21st, 2004, 03:47 AM

oohhh, Ahhhh, rubs hands with glee....

Those are some interesting and different set ups!

Renegade 13

June 21st, 2004, 05:04 AM

Ahhhhh.....too young for a credit card so no paying through paypal. i guess that eliminates me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Spoo

June 21st, 2004, 05:29 AM

Could you be persuaded to accept a money order by mail? I don't care for PayPal.

mac5732

June 21st, 2004, 06:14 AM

Can I turn the $20 in to Geo if I meet him at Origins instead of paypal?

Atrocities

June 21st, 2004, 06:50 AM

This will be the event of events for SE IV. So don't let it slip buy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Mark the Merciful

June 21st, 2004, 11:22 AM

Count me in. I'll sort out the payment this evening.

tesco samoa

June 21st, 2004, 12:13 PM

for those who do not have pay pal please contact me personally and we can work out some arrangement.

Mac... Ask Geo if he is cool with that...

Slynky

June 21st, 2004, 12:23 PM

I used to have PayPal but they only give you a limited amount for transactions ($2,000 I believe) and I did $2,000 worth of transactions. After that, it requires a fee to use it. That's when I canceled.

I know Geo took checks for donations so...

Slynky

June 21st, 2004, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by geoschmo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Slynky:
So, no PO box, no checks, I presume. Hmmmm, as much as I have donated to PBW, an entry fee to the tourney was like a free ride (assuming the entry fee was just another donation). Oh well, I'm sure I can find other games to keep me busy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . As far as past donations, that's a good question. Tesco would be the one with final say, but my own opinion is that while your past support is greatly appreciated, the tournament is intended to be a PBW fund raiser. Letting people in on the basis of past donations would kind of defeat that purpose. Plus, while most of the prizes are being donated, I'm not sure all of them are, so there are some costs involved.

Geoschmo <hr /></blockquote>Perhaps I was misunderstand. I wasn't trying to say people who had donated in the past should be considered for free entry. I was trying to say that if a person is a person who donates from time-to-time, then they (as I would) should look at it as just another donation (that comes with a free entry to a contest).

I certainly don't want people to think I was trying to finagle my way into the tourney based on past donations--those were just free-and-clear donations.

geoschmo

June 21st, 2004, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Slynky:
I certainly don't want people to think I was trying to finagle my way into the tourney based on past donations--those were just free-and-clear donations. Ah, well I did misunderstand you. Sorry about that. But I didn't consider it a negative on your part for what I thought you were asking. You have supported PBW quite well over the years. Not just financially either.

AMF

June 21st, 2004, 03:18 PM

Slynky,

If you want, you can send me a check and I can donate via paypal in your name...

email me if you want to do this, certainly not a problem on my end.

Thanks,

Alarik

Originally posted by Slynky:
Yes, I suppose you may be correct, Geo. I was hesitant to give out more info (in these days of I'Net theft) and I never went through the process...I think I must have assumed there would be a fee (or I misread something).

So, no PO box, no checks, I presume. Hmmmm, as much as I have donated to PBW, an entry fee to the tourney was like a free ride (assuming the entry fee was just another donation). Oh well, I'm sure I can find other games to keep me busy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

primitive

June 21st, 2004, 03:27 PM

Great Idea, but I might have vacation problems. If all goes as planned I will be climbing the high mountains until August 22nd.

Any chance of postponing the start of one of the games by one week? The tournament won't be the same without the Primitive Hordes making mayhem http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

AMF

June 21st, 2004, 03:27 PM

Oh, and just to avoid future embarrasment, I KNOW I am going to get just slaughtered in these things...my playing style/skill is NOT AT ALL good enough to survive in a tourney. But, I just figure it'll be fun as heck and probably make me a bit better...

Thanks,

Alarik ("really shouldn't be joining any more SEIV games at all")

tesco samoa

June 21st, 2004, 04:13 PM

yes you can pm me for alternate payments. Or email me at seiv (funny a ) tescosamoa (big dot ) com

As for previous payments and on going support of PBW and the tournament fee. I am keeping them seperate. This is a one time shot at raising money for PBW and promotion of SEIV and SEV.

A few of us are paying for prizes out of our pocket and there are 9 copies of the game up for grabs.

SJ and I are running the tourney. With Geo's support and guidence. Natually we will not be playing in the tournament. So no shot at beta test for me.

Primative please send me an email. I have an idea for that... We can dicuss it with Sj and Geo.

Alarikf .... Thats why we have the random prizes to be handed out.... or we would be tossing everything to the machines that rule PBW.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Captain Kwok

June 21st, 2004, 05:10 PM

Greetings.

Also note that you don't have to win the game to be eligible for prizes either. That gives us roleplayer types a chance to win. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Captain Kwok

June 21st, 2004, 05:15 PM

Woops, forgot to post a link to a website that recaps the rules and prizes:

PBW Race to SE:V Website (http://www.tescosamoa.com/racetosev/pbwrace.htm)

[ June 21, 2004, 16:16: Message edited by: Captain Kwok ]

Iansidious

June 21st, 2004, 06:10 PM

SIGING UP!!!!!!!!!!!

Great ideas guys. I tip my hat to you.

Ragnarok

June 21st, 2004, 06:24 PM

Sounds like an awesome time to be had. I will sign up before the end of the deadline. Although I will lose I might as well support PBW this way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Iansidious

June 21st, 2004, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Sounds like an awesome time to be had. I will sign up before the end of the deadline. Although I will lose I might as well support PBW this way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Same here! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Don't forget the ramdon prizes. We still have hope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

geoschmo

June 21st, 2004, 11:21 PM

Not to mention every single participant gets a special SE4 intro screen available only to tournament players. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

narf poit chez BOOM

June 22nd, 2004, 12:10 AM

Plans are to fluid to join now.

Ed Kolis

June 22nd, 2004, 12:39 AM

Is there the standard contest rule in effect about "employees or affiliates" (in this case basically anyone who contributed prizes or helped to build PBW or is helping to develop PBW2) being ineligible to join? I'm thinking I might just give this one a whirl, but then I *am* going to be helping develop PBW2... not to mention (not to toot my own horn or anything)being one of the "in-crowd" who will probably get a beta slot anyway... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

primitive

June 22nd, 2004, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
 Technology cost: highIs this wise with only 5 systems pr. player ?
Gonna be a destroyer slugfest. Might as well handle the victory to Rex before we start http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

geoschmo

June 22nd, 2004, 01:12 AM

This isn't technically correct Slynky. Once you reach the 2000 limit on Paypal you have to become "verified". Being verified doesn't change the fee schedule at all, but it does require that you give Paypal more personal information about yourself and demonstrate that you have a checking account. I can understand people being hesitant to giving out their personal financial information. Heck, I won't even post my mail address. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif All I will say is that in my experience through PBW and with my personal account I've had no bad experiences with Paypal.

We no longer have the PO Box. It wasn't pulling in enough donations to be worth the cost and hassle.

Mac, I don't have a problem with you giving me your money at Origins. I will get it to Tesco.

Geoschmo

Slynky

June 22nd, 2004, 01:50 AM

Yes, I suppose you may be correct, Geo. I was hesitant to give out more info (in these days of I'Net theft) and I never went through the process...I think I must have assumed there would be a fee (or I misread something).

So, no PO box, no checks, I presume. Hmmmm, as much as I have donated to PBW, an entry fee to the tourney was like a free ride (assuming the entry fee was just another donation). Oh well, I'm sure I can find other games to keep me busy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

geoschmo

June 22nd, 2004, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Slynky:
So, no PO box, no checks, I presume. Hmmmm, as much as I have donated to PBW, an entry fee to the tourney was like a free ride (assuming the entry fee was just another donation). Oh well, I'm sure I can find other games to keep me busy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . Well, I think Tesco is planning on accepting checks from people that want to join but can't use paypal for whatever reason. I think that's why he said to contact him personally for instructions.

As far as past donations, that's a good question. Tesco would be the one with final say, but my own opinion is that while your past support is greatly appreciated, the tournament is intended to be a PBW fund raiser. Letting people in on the basis of past donations would kind of defeat that purpose. Plus, while most of the prizes are being donated, I'm not sure all of them are, so there are some costs involved.

Geoschmo

geoschmo

June 22nd, 2004, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
Is there the standard contest rule in effect about "employees or affiliates" (in this case basically anyone who contributed prizes or helped to build PBW or is helping to develop PBW2) being ineligible to join? The first round will be four games right? As long as we all agree to abstain from any admin type stuff for games we are personally involved in it shouldn't be a problem.

I am sure that I at least will not make the final round so I can resolve anything that comes up then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tesco samoa

June 22nd, 2004, 02:28 AM

well sj and i are not playing. so you have your two admins... And we payed our 20 dollars even http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ed.... No contest rule like that here. Only suggestion I have is that if some one knows that they are going to beta test... well they toss their prize of the game or beta test slot back into the pile for someone else... and then claim one of the other prizes...

P.S. 'in-crowd' i am not... I get to register for a beta test slot like everyone else when it opens.... 0 for 2 so far on that... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif and i forfit my chance in the tournament to gain a beta slot. Small price to pay to thank Aaron , PBW and the community for the years of enjoyment and friendship.
So I helped out in other ways.... As one can always treat it as it is, an opportunity. Hey I like the game. This time I did not get to test it and help make the game evolve offically. But I can do it with suggestions, and when the game comes out.... Bug people over and over again with my ideas.... \HINT --- SORTABLE REPORTS with includes and excludes ... /Hint

Thats the way I do it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

bearclaw

June 22nd, 2004, 02:33 AM

oooooo. This sounds like fun! Too bad my schedule doesn't allow me into any 48 hour games. For those of us who can't get into a game but want to be spectattors, will there be some sort of venue for us? Perhaps Sticky Posts on this forum with turn updates and reports once things get going? Obviously no one would want sensitive info posted:

(Turn update: Primitive prepares to enter Geo's space with a fleet of 23 destroyers. Geo's 3 colonies in the system look to get glassed)

but some sort of progress, like scoring and player logs of some sort?

(Hey Ruatha, think you could put something in your companion that would allow for posting automaticly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Spoo

June 22nd, 2004, 03:56 AM

I wonder if the Talisman will be "must have" or "suicide"...

rextorres

June 22nd, 2004, 04:13 AM

I'll play - too bad primitive isn't playing though i'd like to try to get him back for the Last tournament we played. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Renegade 13

June 22nd, 2004, 06:13 AM

I'd love to play, but:

1. No credit card.
2. No money http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif (hey,i'm only 17!!)

primitive

June 22nd, 2004, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by rextorres:
I'll play - too bad primitive isn't playing though i'd like to try to get him back for the Last tournament we played. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Don't count me out yet, Rex. You might get your chance http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

spoon

June 22nd, 2004, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Spoo:
I wonder if the Talisman will be "must have" or "suicide"... With research cost High, I would guess suicide...

Ed Kolis

June 22nd, 2004, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
P.S. 'in-crowd' i am not... I get to register for a beta test slot like everyone else when it opens.... 0 for 2 so far on that... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Tesco, I'm surprised... Although you weren't part of the in-crowd when Starfury was in beta, I'd expect you to be by now, especially now that you're taking the reins of PBW from Geo! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Me, I was just some kid helping people out... heck, I might even not be part of the in-crowd anymore for all I know http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Ragnarok

June 22nd, 2004, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by spoon:
With research cost High, I would guess suicide... In that case Spoon, I vote that you take it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

AMF

June 22nd, 2004, 07:56 PM

This all sounds waaay too much like high school...

Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tesco samoa:
P.S. 'in-crowd' i am not... I get to register for a beta test slot like everyone else when it opens.... 0 for 2 so far on that... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Tesco, I'm surprised... Although you weren't part of the in-crowd when Starfury was in beta, I'd expect you to be by now, especially now that you're taking the reins of PBW from Geo! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Me, I was just some kid helping people out... heck, I might even not be part of the in-crowd anymore for all I know http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Iansidious

June 22nd, 2004, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
I'd love to play, but:

1. No credit card.
2. No money http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif (hey,i'm only 17!!) Me too but thats where the parents come in! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gandalph

June 23rd, 2004, 03:44 PM

This is a fantastic idea and I will officially toss my hat into the ring!!!

Chronon

June 23rd, 2004, 06:30 PM

Count me in. Whatever the outcome, this should be fun.

Joachim

June 24th, 2004, 01:57 AM

Tesco,
Are these settings locked in stone? I ask because I want to toy around with empire design against some TDM AIs (and get slaughtered no doubt).

tesco samoa

June 24th, 2004, 02:55 AM

Settings are locked in stone

primitive

June 24th, 2004, 10:45 AM

A big barbarian whacks at the stone with a sledgehammer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

High tech cost, 1 planet start and a lot of players will make most of these games veeery long. Minimum 100 turns, but my guess is more like 150.

Fun settings, but SE V will probably be at the second patch before this tournament is over http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky

June 24th, 2004, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by primitive:
A big barbarian whacks at the stone with a sledgehammer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

High tech cost, 1 planet start and a lot of players will make most of these games veeery long. Minimum 100 turns, but my guess is more like 150.

Fun settings, but SE V will probably be at the second patch before this tournament is over http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Hate to admit it, but I agree with the big P. But if the settings are set in stone, so be it. I'll throw in my hat anyway and see how it goes. (if we wind up beside each other, P, then we'll just have to work together!)

Send me some info, Tesco, on how to get a check for entry.

geoschmo

June 24th, 2004, 09:42 PM

I guess it depends on what the turn frequency is. If Tesco sets it to 24hrs and is strict on that the game will go fairly quick.

Slynky

June 24th, 2004, 11:22 PM

Well, currently, T/A time is listed at 48 hrs. It nothing is changing in the settings...then 48 hrs it will be. 24, IMO, would be pushing it anyway. If time were to change, I think 36 might be better.

geoschmo

June 24th, 2004, 11:24 PM

I looked at the rules three times and couldn't find the turn time limit listed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

primitive

June 24th, 2004, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by geoschmo:
I looked at the rules three times and couldn't find the turn time limit listed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Its on the tournament website (http://www.tescosamoa.com/racetosev/pbwrace.htm)

24 hours would be off limits to a lot of players, me included.

geoschmo

June 25th, 2004, 12:02 AM

At any rate, 48hrs would get us through 100 turns in 6-7 months. So there's a chance we could finish before SeV comes out. At least the first round. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Captain Kwok

June 25th, 2004, 12:24 AM

Perhaps a medium tech start with medium tech cost will speed things along a bit?

primitive

June 25th, 2004, 12:55 AM

Not that I mind 6-12 month games Geo, but I guess it will be hard to committ to the tournament once SEV is out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

My suggestions are: 3 Planets and Medium tech cost. Think that would make the games a lot quicker, having a clear winner in 80 turns or so.

Slynky

June 25th, 2004, 01:08 AM

Imagine you are in a game to win a copy of SE5 and the game comes out. And people are scarfing it up and talking about how great it is. Could you wait? And if you went ahead and bought a copy and then won, it would render the prize a bit redundant.

Having said that, I haven't even read when it is expected to go into Beta. And Beta should take 3-6 months, shouldn't it?

Anyway, just running my mouth. I'm still in no matter.

tesco samoa

June 25th, 2004, 01:34 AM

ok i see your point

It will have to be up for vote between SJ , At , Geo and I

tesco samoa

June 25th, 2004, 01:36 AM

ok email is sent out for vote....

tesco samoa

June 25th, 2004, 01:41 AM

Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon

Mark the Merciful

June 25th, 2004, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by Slynky:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by primitive:
A big barbarian whacks at the stone with a sledgehammer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

High tech cost, 1 planet start and a lot of players will make most of these games veeery long. Minimum 100 turns, but my guess is more like 150.

Fun settings, but SE V will probably be at the second patch before this tournament is over http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Hate to admit it, but I agree with the big P. But if the settings are set in stone, so be it. I'll throw in my hat anyway and see how it goes. (if we wind up beside each other, P, then we'll just have to work together!)

Send me some info, Tesco, on how to get a check for entry. <hr /></blockquote>Hang on a sec. If tech costs are high, and everyone will on average have access to five systems, how are they going to afford to research mines without risking being rolled over by someone who researched, say, DUC V? And if they can't, then the mid-game is not going to lock up the way it normally does, is it? So we could be seeing eliminations and a resolution pretty quickly.

Bringing tech costs down to medium might bring mines within reach, and actually slow the game down.

And a low-tech "cavemen in space" brawl might be sort of fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Or if people really resent High tech cost, why not ban mines altogether?

Mark

[ June 25, 2004, 08:42: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ]

Alneyan

June 25th, 2004, 10:06 AM

Same here as Renegade, I don't think I will be able to play either (and, as you can see, I shouldn't start yet another game when I am currently lagging behind).

If I can however give my two cents, mines are actually very cheap to research even with High tech cost, since it only affects later technology levels while the first one costs the same. So Mines will cost 100,000 research points to get as usual with Construction, which is certainly not too difficult to get.

And if you can get a lot of trade treaties, you may very well have so many research points it isn't even funny (basically, gaining 200,000 research points isn't so uncommon in most games). I guess, however, that the early game will see the destruction of a few Empires and hopes, but it should go back to a normal game later on (ten systems are enough with treaties and good planets, if you can get the said treaties obviously).

primitive

June 25th, 2004, 10:38 AM

Alneyan is right. Researching mines is still very cheap with high tech cost. Sweepers however, become very expensive in such a game as both high level sweeping and large shipsizes won�t be able until much later in the game. The 15 destroyers with level one sweepers needed to sweep 100 mines will be a serious strain on the small economies and make offensive actions virtually impossible for a while.

Alneyan

June 25th, 2004, 10:47 AM

*Hint* Light Carrier *Hint* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Even Light Carriers are expensive to maintain with a weak economy, and you would need ten of them to sweep 100 mines. Though it might work if you are using the Light Carriers are beachers.

tesco samoa

June 25th, 2004, 12:26 PM

Rule change is agreed upon.

Rules have been updated

3 planets
med tech.

trooper

June 25th, 2004, 12:42 PM

Cannot pay via Paypal !

Bouhouhou !

primitive

June 25th, 2004, 12:53 PM

The stone now more to his liking, the big barbarian throws away the sledgehammer and goes to the cantina for a beer.

Thanks to Tesco and the team http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Lord Q'Daan

June 25th, 2004, 07:39 PM

Damn, this is too cool. Unfortunately, looks like it'll be taking place while I'm at CMU, and I can't risk my first year on something so addictive. Oh well, at least now I have WoW.

...on the other hand, it's only one turn every once in a while, considering it's 20 players and 48 hr limit. I guess I could let the limit take care of me on those rare instances like finals week.

Arrgh, can't decide. Think I'll use July to practice some and get back into PBW.

[ June 25, 2004, 18:45: Message edited by: Lord Q'Daan ]

Phoenix-D

June 25th, 2004, 08:12 PM

heh. I think WoW would be worse than any single PBW game..

AMF

June 29th, 2004, 07:26 PM

One thing that I found leads to an interesting (one might say "more pure") dynamic is to not allow fighters, mines, or drones. This is what I did in Zeta...I have no idea how the players feel about it, however. If I could've disallowed satellites in that, I would have done that also...

Of course, for people like me who can't design ships worth beans, such a rule would be tougher, but, hey, it's a thought...

Thanks,

Alarik

Originally posted by Alneyan:
Same here as Renegade, I don't think I will be able to play either (and, as you can see, I shouldn't start yet another game when I am currently lagging behind).

If I can however give my two cents, mines are actually very cheap to research even with High tech cost, since it only affects later technology levels while the first one costs the same. So Mines will cost 100,000 research points to get as usual with Construction, which is certainly not too difficult to get.

And if you can get a lot of trade treaties, you may very well have so many research points it isn't even funny (basically, gaining 200,000 research points isn't so uncommon in most games). I guess, however, that the early game will see the destruction of a few Empires and hopes, but it should go back to a normal game later on (ten systems are enough with treaties and good planets, if you can get the said treaties obviously).

Asmala

June 29th, 2004, 10:19 PM

This is a great idea. Too bad I'll have to do my military service at next year (it'll start at the beginning of January) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif That means I won't be able to finish the game.

Other problem would be the fact that I don't have a credit card. Is there a big expense if I'd transfer money directly to PBW account?

mac5732

June 30th, 2004, 03:08 AM

gave my $20 to Geo at origins

geoschmo

July 1st, 2004, 01:14 AM

Ok, is there a big enough interest in this from people with no credit cards that I should get another PO Box? They opened up a new post office branch right next to my work. The main reason I dropped the other one was that I moved and it was a hassle to go over there and check it. But if there are people wanting to join up, and send donations in general, I can get a new one.

Slynky

July 2nd, 2004, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Ok, is there a big enough interest in this from people with no credit cards that I should get another PO Box? They opened up a new post office branch right next to my work. The main reason I dropped the other one was that I moved and it was a hassle to go over there and check it. But if there are people wanting to join up, and send donations in general, I can get a new one. Given the response to your question and the (somewhat) lack of responses to the tourney in general, I'd say don't bother.

As to the PO box, if Simon is going to take it over, then (perhaps), he should be the one to decide on getting a PO box (for the tourney AND future donations). Just a thought (there goes my big mouth again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

As to the tourney, it seems to be languishing a bit as the initial rush was encouraging but the dropoff is indicatory of (perhaps) not enough interest. Perhaps some sort of query should be done...a poll (visions of "Poll Boy" appear http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) to get a firm feel for interest.

What ya think?

Kana

July 2nd, 2004, 11:22 PM

Well...lack of interest....hmmmm.

How many people do we have signed up so far?

I'm putting off entering...just to see if I will have the time...later...for it...I felt that I still have till Aug 1st or so before I have to decide...Maybe some others are doing the same?

Kana

Atrocities

July 3rd, 2004, 12:58 AM

There is no lack of interest. In fact interest is high for this event. I mean who wouldn't want to be in the 1st Tournament of Champions? This is a no brainer, everyone should join and play. The prizes are very good ones for this event and frankly if you don't sign up and play your will be missing out on a great experience.

If you value the $ look at all the time and effort that has gone into setting up this event and the cash value of the prizes. Not to mention a chance at becoming a beta tester for SE V. Hell that alone should be enough to cause a storming of the sign up gates.

So if you have not yet signed up, please do so, you will enjoy it even if you don't place.

Hell for the price of a pair of tickets to a movie you can't go wrong.

David E. Gervais

July 3rd, 2004, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by Kana:
Well...lack of interest....hmmmm.

How many people do we have signed up so far?

I'm putting off entering...just to see if I will have the time...later...for it...I felt that I still have till Aug 1st or so before I have to decide...Maybe some others are doing the same?

Kana LOL, you know, fewer people means that your chances of winning a beta slot are just that much greater. Plus there are several copies of se5 to be given away. (more than your entry fee value there.) Plus three shipsets made by Atrocities, who worked his tail off and produced some of his finest work to date. You modders should be drooling at the thought of having your own custom shipset to use in your mods. There are also some splash screens (aka Desktop Wallpaper) to be had and won. (maybe not worth $20 but at least you won't go home empty handed.) there are also some gift certificates that basically refund your entry fee.

Yes a LOT of work went into the planning of this tournament, and the prizes are nothing to scoff at. But the real value is in the pure 'FUN' that you will have playing a game that we all love.

What we need to do is swarm other gamming forums and make Posts in their forums and spread the word.. "Win a slot in the Space Empires 5 BETA. Join the 'Tournament of Champions' now." etc, etc, etc..

Basically the word about the tournament needs to be spread. This is not the type of thing we want to keep as our own private secret.

Anyway, don't walk, RUN! and sign up Today!

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Intimidator

July 4th, 2004, 10:53 AM

I really want to play this one, but my biggest problem is to get the 20$ in the US (I will not/never use paypall)

And my second problem is the starting date, I will be back from holiday the 16th of august. So if (ONLY) the first turn is ALPU there is NO problem and I could join. (but I will not play/pay if I know for certain that I will mis the first turn.

So if anybody have some answers for me (Tesco) let me know and count me in !!

Intimidator

AMF

July 4th, 2004, 05:54 PM

Can you send a check? I (and others) can send money in your name if you send us a check for it...

Originally posted by Intimidator:
I really want to play this one, but my biggest problem is to get the 20$ in the US (I will not/never use paypall)

And my second problem is the starting date, I will be back from holiday the 16th of august. So if (ONLY) the first turn is ALPU there is NO problem and I could join. (but I will not play/pay if I know for certain that I will mis the first turn.

So if anybody have some answers for me (Tesco) let me know and count me in !!

Intimidator

tesco samoa

July 4th, 2004, 10:53 PM

alarikf

yes
send me an email to seiv at tescosamoa com

Intimidator.

Good news... You will have time to submit your first turn... You have 2 advantages. 1 your 6 hours ahead of me so it will not start until the 16th for you and you will have the allocated time to do your turn.

David G and At... Great answers. Lots of love for the se community went into this tourny. Even if you can only play for a little while due to commitments. It would be well worth it as most of the prizes are random anyways. And it is a great way to support PBW and the upcoming SEV universe.

We could even look at a 5 planet start to really speed up the games....

Kana we now have 6 players signed up.

And yes your right with the fact that the tourney is not well known yet.

Slynky.... have some faith... and post it on your site... Tell your friends http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Mac Thanks

Asmala... We can figure it out for you my friend... Send me a PM...

Lord Q Dann... its less addictive than a girl and will not hurt your grades http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif welll maybe not...

Slynky

July 4th, 2004, 11:23 PM

Well, I'm in, as I said before (though my name wasn't listed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ).

I surely didn't mean to cast any doubt on the Tourney by my (perhaps) pessimestic observations. I guess I judged it by the kind of reaction that Geo usually gets when he Posts an idea for a tourney http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Tesco, you have a PM (in a sec... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ).

Joachim

July 5th, 2004, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:

We could even look at a 5 planet start to really speed up the games....

I intend to play but have not yet signed on and paid up - waiting for the Aussie dollar to get even better...

As for a five planet start, that is fine but - are you going to ban the Talisman (pleeeaaassseeee - pleading tone!)? On a 3 planet start you can have it by turn 40 with ease (and have LCs, guns, PD, shields, etc). And with mines, missile ships and boarding parties it is possible to defend yourself till then. With 5 planets I guess by turn 30? (haven't tried it yet).

Lets ban the talisman and make the tourney one that tests overall game play, not just can you survive till T-Turn?

Joachim 'I HATE the talisman'

[ July 05, 2004, 02:36: Message edited by: Joachim ]

Slynky

July 5th, 2004, 03:48 AM

LOL, Joachim. Dude, you're too good to worry about the Talisman http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

It's a "one winner" game and any players in their right mind would NOT allow such a dangerous player to make it to the "Talisman" point. I'd never ally with one. AND, there is no trading, so they are on their own. In other words, expecting racial points to lower Aggression...hehe...can you spell "ripe for the picking"?

I know how you feel about the Talisman but...I'd LOVE to find myself beside one and have a treaty with another person that borders them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

So, I say, "Take Religious if you dare!"

Kana

July 5th, 2004, 05:27 AM

Only 6 !!!! Sure seemed more than that...I assume those are only the the ones who have actually paid....Wow...

Kana

Joachim

July 5th, 2004, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by Slynky:
LOL, Joachim. Dude, you're too good to worry about the Talisman http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

It's a "one winner" game and any players in their right mind would NOT allow such a dangerous player to make it to the "Talisman" point. I'd never ally with one. AND, there is no trading, so they are on their own. In other words, expecting racial points to lower Aggression...hehe...can you spell "ripe for the picking"?

I know how you feel about the Talisman but...I'd LOVE to find myself beside one and have a treaty with another person that borders them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

So, I say, "Take Religious if you dare!" You're on!

You can get it too quickly with that many planets. The no trading helps the Talisman more as that puts everyone in the same boat, where as you might usually get the situation where no non-religious people will trade with the zealot (such as NGC 4 where I had to research ice tech).

And who said you have to lower aggression? I know it is the standard set up but there are other things...

I am not saying that taking the talisman is not risky, especially if you have a good/experienced player nearby. But, I think you can defend long enough to then be un-killable.

[ July 05, 2004, 05:16: Message edited by: Joachim ]

Slynky

July 5th, 2004, 07:05 AM

Well, we can "discuss" it all night... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ...but looking at it as if it were me:

I would need to research Religious tech AND I'd need to get my Ions up to 3's, ships up to destroyers, I'd need some weapons (DUC 4 at least), and surely I'd need mines (to help stave off the attacks). Let's not forget PDs. Now, in case I'm under attack (as ANY person daring to take the Talisman should be http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ), I'll need off/def components. At least the 1st level of each. Those are the bare minimums, as I see it. That's a bit of research to take away from my Religious studies. Considering it's 1 person every 5 systems...I've got a neighbor who won't like me because I might be studying Religious stuff that I'll meet in 5 turns (or so).

And I always have to think about this: That any player I meet will already have met someone else...and THIS guy will say to his other "friend", "Hey, I need to do something that will benefit both of us...get rid of this Religious guy before he becomes dangerous. Give me a hand or let's agree to a treaty and borders while I take care of him."

Nope, give me "straight" stuff any day in this kind of game. I won the first round of another tourney (forget the name...but it never continued to the second round) with 4 other people. One of them had the Talisman. I opened up on him with fleets of 20-30 battleships in 4 - 5 different areas at a time. Yes, he hit but I swamped him!

Well, I'm not that great of a player so I guess I'd never chance it. I suppose it could be done by a very good player. Mark or Primitive might be able to pull it off but Rex, Asmala, etc., the really good players will not bother, methinks.

Joachim

July 5th, 2004, 07:17 AM

I guess the key issue is *if* the talisman player has people next to them that will attack straight away, and if they can overcome the defences the talisman player can use until the talisman is on line.

In some ways it is a prisoner's dilema to have a talisman next to you. You do need to kill them, problem is is that it will weaken you considerably in the trying. While that will help everyone else in the game you may end up being worse off overall.

P.S I think we are still vaguely on thread but feel free to move this off - maybe to my 'cursed talisman' thread http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Alneyan

July 5th, 2004, 10:01 AM

You would be surprised Slynky I guess. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif But the biggest problem with taking the Talisman would be to avoid being declared the Mega Evil Empire because of it (and especially if you have quite a name; I would be adamant in killing a Religious Primitive as soon as possible. *Smirks*).

A single Empire can be repelled without too much trouble before the Talisman goes up I guess (you will need a few ships to get up and running against the Religious One after all, and the research that goes with it), but will the research go quickly enough to allow the Religious player to get this Talisman before major wars occur? And then, will this player be able to gather a fleet with good enough warships before time runs out? Having the Talisman on Destroyers wouldn't be too useful for example, since the Talisman is liable to be destroyed with the first blow.

But I am wandering, and shouldn't give such ideas to a prospective Religious player. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Now more on topic: would something such as sending directly the money via mail be allowed? It doesn't necessarily have to go directly to Geo, but could be sent to someone else in the States (I seem to recall it is legal for the daring there; is my memory faulty once more?). I know it is quite complicated, but I do not currently have access to a way of sending checks in dollars, along with other similar problems.

Slynky

July 5th, 2004, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Joachim:
I guess the key issue is *if* the talisman player has people next to them that will attack straight away, and if they can overcome the defences the talisman player can use until the talisman is on line.

In some ways it is a prisoner's dilema to have a talisman next to you. You do need to kill them, problem is is that it will weaken you considerably in the trying. While that will help everyone else in the game you may end up being worse off overall.

P.S I think we are still vaguely on thread but feel free to move this off - maybe to my 'cursed talisman' thread http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Yes, we don't need to debate it to death. As to it being a bit OT, since there was a suggestion to exclude it, it is a bit on topic.

Yes, the player who fights to prevent the Religious player from becoming "Talisman'd" will weaken himself. But if he can make good peace with his neighbors while he works on the war (and why shouldn't they agree?), remember, he will gain the property of that war as well while others may not be able to expand due to keeping peace with all their neighbors. And, if those neighbors ARE to expand, then they will be in a war as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

So, to make a final remark as to the suggestion...I don't care one way or the other if Religious is allowed.

Slynky

July 5th, 2004, 04:07 PM

Alneyan, can't you send an international check (cheque)?

If there is no other way, then disquise an envelope with the appropriate amount (paying careful attention to wrap the bills in paper so they can't be seen) and send it to me (I'll provide an address if you want to take this approach) and I'll just write a check to Tesco for both our entries. I promise you can trust me (as I must trust you to have sent it and not claim "it must have gotten lost in the mail").

This way, you may enter, Tesco will place us side-by-side and you can take the Religious trait ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

tesco samoa

July 5th, 2004, 10:19 PM

Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon
5. Mac
6. Hustler
7. Paladino
8. JKUO

Thank you.

[ July 06, 2004, 12:35: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

Alneyan

July 6th, 2004, 04:31 PM

Thank you Slynky. I will let you know if I need to use this kind of mean. On the other hand, I should really crank down on my games once of these days, and somehow signing in for new games doesn't seem to be the most effective way of doing so. *Smirks*

Obviously, I wouldn't take anything looking like a Religious Trait. I guess I would do better without painting a big, flashing target on myself by taking this trait after all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Parasite

July 6th, 2004, 08:14 PM

Last night I finally got to enter the game... But, I may have gotten a logon error with PayPal. (paypal or PBW) It was pretty strange. Please let me know if it went through.

RL Dan Stockelman

tesco samoa

July 6th, 2004, 11:20 PM

sorry dan did not see anything

Atrocities

July 6th, 2004, 11:58 PM

What about those who live outside the US and want to join the tournemament? How can they pay?

tesco samoa

July 7th, 2004, 12:09 AM

Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon
5. Mac
6. Hustler
7. Paladino
8. JKUO
9. Dragon_rider10
Thank you.

tesco samoa

July 7th, 2004, 12:12 AM

well there are a few choices.

1. they can use paypal
2. they can contact me or a admin@pbw.cc and ask where to send the money. either via check or cash or the other forms of paper transfer... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
We are glad to help out any way we can.

tesco samoa

July 7th, 2004, 02:16 PM

Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon
5. Mac
6. Hustler
7. Paladino
8. JKUO
9. Dragon_rider10
10. Drizzt321

Thank you

AMF

July 7th, 2004, 06:23 PM

Come on people, I find this pretty amazing. I mean, *I'M* at the top of the list? I'm a newbie to all this - what about all youse fellas been around for a while? Even I'm trying to cut back on all my gaming obligations and I still got in this...show some spirit!

[heh heh just busting all of yer chops]

Although it would be damned funny if I won simply by default - I mean, really, I suck at SE4, tournaments especially...

Alarik

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon
5. Mac
6. Hustler
7. Paladino
8. JKUO
9. Dragon_rider10
10. Drizzt321

Thank you

tesco samoa

July 7th, 2004, 07:44 PM

Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon
5. Mac
6. Hustler
7. Paladino
8. JKUO
9. Dragon_rider10
10. Drizzt321
11. Parasite

Thank you

tesco samoa

July 8th, 2004, 01:50 AM

Slynky

July 8th, 2004, 02:18 PM

Check's in the mail, Tesco http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

Slynky

July 8th, 2004, 02:24 PM

(ok, ok, another post just to move the message count to 100 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif )

Gryphin

July 8th, 2004, 03:48 PM

Tesco / Slinky
Can you email me where to send the check?
< long story and I can't tell but no I won't be in the game >

tesco samoa

July 8th, 2004, 05:31 PM

gryphin... email sent

Atrocities

July 10th, 2004, 07:30 AM

If you live in Europe or other and want to join you can:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
well there are a few choices.

1. they can use paypal
2. they can contact me or a admin@pbw.cc and ask where to send the money. either via check or cash or the other forms of paper transfer... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
We are glad to help out any way we can.

Gryphin

July 12th, 2004, 12:13 PM

Tesco.
I decided to use Pay Pal. Please confirm that it went through.
Thanks

Joachim

July 12th, 2004, 02:50 PM

And there is even the option of some pre-game warm ups http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Race Training (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=012081;p=1#000 000)

Slynky

July 12th, 2004, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Just a reminder to those who are sitting on the fence... There are 9 copies of the game here for grabs......

Also... I have noticed some big names that have not joined up yet... hint hint... Well, I'm not one of the big names but just to let you know, my check is in snail-mail http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif .

Slynky

July 12th, 2004, 03:17 PM

Going to take a guess here and say how really kewl it was of Gryphin to give Renegade 13's entry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif .

Renegade 13

July 12th, 2004, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by Slynky:
Going to take a guess here and say how really kewl it was of Gryphin to give Renegade 13's entry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif . It was indeed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

tesco samoa

July 12th, 2004, 07:34 PM

Ragnarok

July 12th, 2004, 09:06 PM

What happens if a player wins a beta slot and they do not have the time to devote to it and everything?

AMF

July 12th, 2004, 09:11 PM

I hope they can give it to someone else, since that's what I'd probably end up doing in the extremely unlikely event I actually won a beta slot...

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
What happens if a player wins a beta slot and they do not have the time to devote to it and everything?

Ragnarok

July 12th, 2004, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by alarikf:
I hope they can give it to someone else, since that's what I'd probably end up doing in the extremely unlikely event I actually won a beta slot... Yeah, same here. As great of an honor as it would be I do not have the time I'd need to dedicate to the project. I did when Starfury came out but not anymore. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

David E. Gervais

July 12th, 2004, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
What happens if a player wins a beta slot and they do not have the time to devote to it and everything? I'm sure that you could work out an exchange with one of the people that wins a free copy of the game. That way they get to beta (and eventually get their free copy) and you would be assured to get a copy even if you don't have the time to be on the beta.

Just a thought. Any of you think this sounds reasonable?

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tesco samoa

July 13th, 2004, 01:29 AM

tesco samoa

July 13th, 2004, 01:31 AM

Just a reminder to those who are sitting on the fence... There are 9 copies of the game here for grabs......

Also... I have noticed some big names that have not joined up yet... hint hint...

Renegade 13

July 13th, 2004, 05:43 AM

Sounds reasonable to me. By the way, if a beta test is won, what exactly does it entail in terms of time committed and the duties expected of a beta tester??

Alneyan

July 13th, 2004, 10:31 AM

Why, no less than selling your very soul to the game, and other unpleasant things along these lines. This offer does come with string attached after all.

Now that my attempt at levity has wonderfully failed, I will thank Slynky for having secured my own entry. So, thanks Slynky! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky

July 13th, 2004, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Alneyan:
Now that my attempt at levity has wonderfully failed, I will thank Slynky for having secured my own entry. So, thanks Slynky! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Quite welcome, Alneyan. (one of the good things about SE4 is the international community and the Internet friendships that have been made)

PS: Besides, it wouldn't really be a tournement without a running, digressing diatribe by you ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

David E. Gervais

July 14th, 2004, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
Sounds reasonable to me. By the way, if a beta test is won, what exactly does it entail in terms of time committed and the duties expected of a beta tester?? First, when you enter the Beta you have to sign/agree to a standard NDA that prohibits you from disclosing info about the game to anyone outside the beta.

Second, you need to have time to actually play through the game and make notes of any 'bugs' you find. (A 'bug' can be anything from actual 'error' Messages to sound or graphic 'glitches'. It can also be gameplay issues. When something does not 'feel' right, make a post in the beta forum and let everyone know what you think.)

I'd say that if you can dedicate 1-2 hours/day playing the game and sending bug reports, you would be an average Beta tester. If you want to move up to the 'A-List' of beta testers then put in as many hours as you can.

Basically, it's a commitment to spend time helping with the great bug-hunt. One of the perks is that often you can contribute gameplay ideas directly to the man himself. The first stage of the Beta is 100% bug hunt. "Go on, I dare you to crash my game!" "What, you did? can you tell me what caused the crash? what were you doing when it happened? Did you get an error message? Strange none of the other beta testers can reproduce that error. Have you updatae all your drivers? are you sure? Oh, you have a nVidia graphics card eh? try reverting to an older driver and see if that helps,.. I'm using vxx.xx and it works fine. etc, etc, etc...

I hope this bit of babble helps give you an idea of what being on the beta means.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Gryphin

July 14th, 2004, 01:22 AM

Alneyan
Your attempt at humor did not fail. I am sitting here very highly amused.
Thanks
and Thanks to
Slinky
I tell ya, What a bunch of "Nice Guys".

Hmmm, If nice guys finish Last and everyone playing is a Nice Guy, Who Wins?

tesco samoa

July 14th, 2004, 05:30 PM

Alneyan

July 14th, 2004, 07:58 PM

Gryphin, you are starting to worry me. Finding my Posts funny is indeed a sign of impending mental collapse (granted, I may be exaggerating a tad bit again, but you get my meaning).

I shall live up to my reputation, Slynky. I cannot promise that said diatribe will be interesting, but it will be full of digressions and logical shortcuts. You can even expect me to pick a very unlikely Empire, which would normally have nothing to do with science-fiction, and whose only purpose is to add zaniness to the game. Besides... Ah, I am digressing again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif *Goes back to lurking mode before bringing undue attention to himself, and the wrath of Tesco thread highjacking*

Slynky

July 14th, 2004, 09:18 PM

LOL, ALneyan, just remember that you'll have to really go "off the deep end" in order to have zanier names than Mark the Merciful uses http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Iansidious

July 17th, 2004, 10:27 PM

With the current list of players(i would be hustler.i like to have an alias) the money collected should be about 400 dollars! That will help the new PBW quite nicely.

Renegade 13

July 18th, 2004, 01:14 AM

And yet there's many players (good players too) who haven't signed up yet! I mean, look at all the potential targets out there! For one thing, I'm playing...the most pathetic player you will ever meet. Such an easy target means that all you people who haven't signed up yet, you just have to. Plus, look at all the wonderful prizes available to be won.

se5a

July 19th, 2004, 10:03 PM

is there still time to sign up?
mum finaly has a CC but is prety hesitant about using it on the net, gona try and convice her to get a paypal acc. wish me luck...

Renegade 13

July 20th, 2004, 12:33 AM

August 1 is the deadline to sign up.

tesco samoa

July 20th, 2004, 09:49 PM

Dead line is fast approaching.... If your a regular seiv player... and not on this list... What are you waiting for. 9 copies of the game are up for grabs here....

Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon
5. Mac
6. Hustler
7. Paladino
8. JKUO
9. Dragon_rider10
10. Drizzt321
11. Parasite
12. dlboyd
13. Roanon
14. 1FSTCAT
15. Renegade 13 ( thanks Gryphin )
16. Ed Kolis
17. Spoo
18. Slynky
19. Alneyan ( thanks Slynky )
20. Gandalph
21. mwbard
22. Deathhead
23. Asmala
24. Obliviator
25. Joachim
26. Gozguy
27. paul45
28. parabolize
Thank you

[ July 29, 2004, 21:20: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

Ed Kolis

July 20th, 2004, 10:08 PM

I have a question...
Will we be required to use the same empire in the second round as in the first?
I ask this because the first rounds's going to have more people per game, right? So it would be more conducive to alliances and trading than the second... Or am I mistaken and you're planning to even things out so both rounds have about the same number of players per game?

tesco samoa

July 22nd, 2004, 07:08 PM

Ed you can submit another empire... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

geoschmo

July 22nd, 2004, 07:49 PM

Ed, are you planning on making it to the second round then? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Slynky

July 22nd, 2004, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Ed, are you planning on making it to the second round then? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif You're just plain wicked, Geo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

Slynky

July 25th, 2004, 02:10 AM

Posted:

To any rated player in my SE4 Ratings system...show me interest in the tourney and I'll pay the entry fee for you.

First come, first served.

Phoenix-D

July 25th, 2004, 02:25 AM

I'm in and I'm certainly interested. Though given that I'm the second lowest rated player maybe someone else would be a better investment.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky

July 25th, 2004, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
I'm in and I'm certainly interested. Though given that I'm the second lowest rated player maybe someone else would be a better investment.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Nope, Phoenix, you're in the tourney!

Yes, I know you're not the best player around but your sportsmanship is the kind that everyone should aspire to. Welcome to the tourney.

Tesco, I'll put the check in the mail...you can trust it...please add Phoenix to the list.

Joachim

July 25th, 2004, 03:08 AM

GGGRrrrrr pay pal is LAME http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

They wont let me pay by credit card without signing up and giving them more money.

Does one have to do that? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

Asmala

July 25th, 2004, 09:37 PM

I was finally able to pay the entry fee using a borrowed credit card http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif Now I just hope the game will be finished before I go to military...

Cheeze

July 26th, 2004, 04:32 AM

I would like to join in for the tournament, if it's not too late. I always enjoy a game with lots of players!! I would prefer to mail my payment...who should I mail it to, and at what address? Feel free to IM or email me on this one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Slynky

July 26th, 2004, 07:26 PM

Mark the Merciful

July 27th, 2004, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Slynky:
LOL, ALneyan, just remember that you'll have to really go "off the deep end" in order to have zanier names than Mark the Merciful uses http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . Alneyan and I recently had a conversation in the Grudgematch game about the Euro 2004 championships. The "conversation" consisted of ship design names on my side and planet names on his.

However, those planets are about to be glassed so I'm afraid all evidence of our achievement will soon be lost. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ July 27, 2004, 13:45: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ]

Alneyan

July 27th, 2004, 03:33 PM

Ah, but you underestimate my will to make my opinions stand prominently; the names of my planets will remain even a thousand years after their destruction at your hand. Indeed, glassing a planet does not reset its name, which will be more than enough to put the inhabitants of said planets at ease.

And so, in a futur far away from our time, people will still contemplate the "No love lost between Beckham and ourselves either" planet. Seeing this, they will wonder who, or what, were this or these strange beings, and they will acknowledge our time as being the finest hour of our Empire, and... Well, perhaps not, but you get the idea.

mac5732

July 27th, 2004, 08:55 PM

Old Snake, when do we start uploading our races and is it on PBW yet?

tesco samoa

July 28th, 2004, 12:42 PM

Hi Mac. When the games are created in August... You can upload your empires then.

Caduceus

July 28th, 2004, 03:58 PM

*tosses cap into ring*

I'm in.

Wildcard06

Gozra

July 28th, 2004, 05:51 PM

I am in also.
Respectfully requesting a new list of... players I know of at least 3 who have joined since the Last list. Will players be assigned at random to the games? Or in the order they joined? This is a great Idea. and good luck to one and all. Be forwarned I am in the Ratings list as gozguy and there is no one with a lesser score than me.

Joachim

July 29th, 2004, 12:48 AM

Count me in as well, paypal seems to have functioned for me.

Ed Kolis

July 29th, 2004, 09:54 PM

Hey, if you haven't already, c'mon and join! There are only 2 more days!

tesco samoa

July 29th, 2004, 10:20 PM

Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon
5. Mac
6. Hustler
7. Paladino
8. JKUO
9. Dragon_rider10
10. Drizzt321
11. Parasite
12. dlboyd
13. Roanon
14. 1FSTCAT
15. Renegade 13 ( thanks Gryphin )
16. Ed Kolis
17. Spoo
18. Slynky
19. Alneyan ( thanks Slynky )
20. Gandalph
21. mwbard
22. Deathhead
23. Asmala
24. Obliviator
25. Joachim
26. Gozguy
27. paul45
28. parabolize
29. Phoenix-D ( thanks Slynky)
30. CheriJoBates
31. Vermillion De'Sade
32. Nick Eupater
33. Tanus
34. Quasar
35. douglas
36. brianeyci
Thank you

[ July 31, 2004, 13:57: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

tesco samoa

July 29th, 2004, 10:29 PM

For those who wish to join and are sending money via surface or ground mail please post here. I will add your names to the list. That way you can still join and get the money to me before the tourney starts.

i still notice a few big names have not signed up. hint hint Primative , Fyron , loser , puke ( just to name a few ) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

tesco samoa

July 29th, 2004, 10:43 PM

hi wildcard welcome aboard... will you be joining via paypal or cheque ?

sorry if i am being forward.

Iansidious

July 29th, 2004, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
For those who wish to join and are sending money via surface or ground mail please post here. I will add your names to the list. That way you can still join and get the money to me before the tourney starts.

i still notice a few big names have not signed up. hint hint Primative , Fyron , loser , puke ( just to name a few ) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Don't do that! We need as few competitor's as possible! Better chances of winning.(kidding of cource http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Cheeze

July 30th, 2004, 12:49 AM

Put me in, coach! I'm ready to play, today!

I want to send a check, so feel free to IM or email me the address. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Slynky

July 30th, 2004, 02:43 AM

Welcome aboard, Cheese, Joachim, Wildcard06, and Gozguy!

Win or lose, it will serve 2 purposes: (1) to have fun and (2) a worthy cause.

The worthy cause is why I donated for a few people...it's like the normal donations I make (but I've been late, lately).

Looks like the Tourney is going to be a success! Congrats to Tesco and others for working to make is so. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Atrocities

July 30th, 2004, 09:06 AM

I have donated four custom ship sets to the prize chest. I make no promises, but if you win, and you want your set to be retextured, I might do that for you. If you win, please keep in mind that you will have the option of naming your race and coming up with a back story for them. Also I will work with you in trying to come up with a good race portrait for them.

I would like to post a preview image of each race, but that is up to the game officals. Just know that they do look good. (I think so any ways.)

Good luck to you all, and remember to read The Evil Ruler Handbook. (http://www.astmod.com/erase.htm)

Joachim

July 30th, 2004, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I have donated four custom ship sets to the prize chest. I make no promises, but if you win, and you want your set to be retextured, I might do that for you. If you win, please keep in mind that you will have the option of naming your race and coming up with a back story for them. Also I will work with you in trying to come up with a good race portrait for them.

I would like to post a preview image of each race, but that is up to the game officals. Just know that they do look good. (I think so any ways.)

Good luck to you all, and remember to read The Evil Ruler Handbook. (http://www.astmod.com/erase.htm) When I read the prize list - you designing a shipset was at the top of my dribble, drool I wish I could win that list! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky

July 30th, 2004, 11:44 PM

So, Atrocities, let me try to understand the ships sets you made to give away:

Custom ship set for winners (or placers). What does this mean exactly? If I understand it, it basically means you develop the race description. Is that right?

Tanus

July 31st, 2004, 01:32 AM

Consider me entered - paypal was friendly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Now lets just see how I can work the time in for it heh

[ July 31, 2004, 00:33: Message edited by: Tanus ]

douglas

July 31st, 2004, 06:09 AM

One complete noob joining in. I can thrash the AI in single-player with ease, but this will be my very first PBW game. Maybe I'll get one of the random prizes.

brianeyci

July 31st, 2004, 02:31 PM

Another newbie joined, (namely me). Played SE:IV demo when it first came out, just ordered my copy... hopefully my copy arrives before aug. 13 =D if it does I'll have time to figure some things out.

brian

tesco samoa

July 31st, 2004, 02:57 PM

Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon
5. Mac
6. Hustler
7. Paladino
8. JKUO
9. Dragon_rider10
10. Drizzt321
11. Parasite
12. dlboyd
13. Roanon
14. 1FSTCAT
15. Renegade 13 ( thanks Gryphin )
16. Ed Kolis
17. Spoo
18. Slynky
19. Alneyan ( thanks Slynky )
20. Gandalph
21. mwbard
22. Deathhead
23. Asmala
24. Obliviator
25. Joachim
26. Gozguy
27. paul45
28. parabolize
29. Phoenix-D ( thanks Slynky)
30. CheriJoBates
31. Vermillion De'Sade
32. Nick Eupater
33. Tanus
34. Quasar
35. douglas
36. brianeyci
37. Mike$
38. Flatline
39. The Company
40. Master B
41. Wildcard06
42. Blackie DuQuesne
43. Kana

Thank you

[ August 02, 2004, 11:58: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

tesco samoa

July 31st, 2004, 03:00 PM

brianeyci... we can figure something out...

cheeze and wildcard. I will add you to the list when i hear back from both of you.

Then if we could get 2 more people to join it would be 40 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron

July 31st, 2004, 04:54 PM

Master Belisarius

July 31st, 2004, 11:58 PM

Hi Tesco!
I would like to sign (Slynky is good recruiting people!).
Drop me an e-mail to agree the way I can send you the money (can't use PayPal from Uruguay!).

Slynky

August 1st, 2004, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
Hi Tesco!
I would like to sign (Slynky is good recruiting people!).
Drop me an e-mail to agree the way I can send you the money (can't use PayPal from Uruguay!). I recruited him, so I will pay his entry. I'll put a check in the mail on Monday, Tesco (hope you will trust me on this...I'd never stiff you).

tesco samoa

August 1st, 2004, 03:45 PM

ok Last day......

to commit to the tourney.

The Tourney forum will be available tomorrow for all the contestents and game hosts.

I will post the link here. tomorrow when the contest is closed.

Also all contestents will be receiving a small thank you tommorrow..... I will let you know in the forums tomorrow what it is and where to get it.

I will say it is very cool , unique and orginal. And only you will have it. No body else.

Slynky

August 1st, 2004, 04:10 PM

You've added Master B to the list on my word, haven't you, Tesco? I'll post the mail tomorrow (like I've done with the other 2).

Kana

August 1st, 2004, 08:09 PM

I would like to throw my hat in to the mix...who can I send a check or MO to?

Kana
who finally broke down....

That would make 40 right?
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

tesco samoa

August 1st, 2004, 09:05 PM

hi i will post the big list in a few hours.

right now i am engaged in the task called the back yard

Caduceus

August 1st, 2004, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
cheeze and wildcard. I will add you to the list when i hear back from both of you.
I sent via PayPal, sorry I was out of town over the weekend...

Wildcard06

Back to work tomorrow.. grrr argh... after paternity leave...

Blackie DuQuesne

August 2nd, 2004, 04:15 AM

Hope I am not too late. Sent an email to the admins a couple of hours ago and sent a donation in by PayPal.

brianeyci

August 2nd, 2004, 07:19 AM

Very cool, thanks for adding me to the list =D

Between my big calc exam and work, I should have enough time to do a lot of testing. There are lots of silly but important things I need to know lol. So far I've been reading the dubious strategy guide (link somewhere else) and one other strategy guide... I think I'll die because of my lack of experience, but who knows. I have a couple race ideas in my head, and if I Last to halfway through the game, I'll be happy =D

Brian

Slynky

August 2nd, 2004, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
http://www.tescosamoa.com/racetosev/

come join up players...

When you join up please use your pbw nick... and there is a usergroup called Players for you to join.

The reason for this is that the forum is open to all but there will be an area for just the players to view due to None Disclosure Acts and such... I'll have "Grand" Master B in the mail today. This shouldn't be considered or posted as a gift as Master Belisarius will be sending me a value equal to his entry fee (some foreign currency for my collection).

I see you have him on the list...just wanted to confirm the envelope being mailed today.

Ragnarok

August 2nd, 2004, 04:04 PM

I replied to your PM, Tesco. I will send paypal if it is not too late.

I totally lost track of the date this weekend as my schedule was super busy. But yeah... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ed Kolis

August 2nd, 2004, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
The reason for this is that the forum is open to all but there will be an area for just the players to view due to None Disclosure Acts and such... NDA's? For what? I thought only some of us would become SE5 beta testers, and are we really keeping the politics of these games a secret or something? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

tesco samoa

August 2nd, 2004, 10:20 PM

you will see....

Ed Kolis

August 2nd, 2004, 10:30 PM

/me gets excited... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tesco samoa

August 2nd, 2004, 10:41 PM

help

I need everyones email...

please send me an email to

seiv @ tescosamoa DOT com

and let me know your pbw nick and email addy...

A slight over site...

Iansidious

August 2nd, 2004, 11:07 PM

email away...

tesco samoa

August 3rd, 2004, 01:12 AM

Current list of players
1. alarikf
2. mark_w
3. RexTorres
4. Chronon
5. Mac
6. Hustler
7. Paladino
8. JKUO
9. Dragon_rider10
10. Drizzt321
11. Parasite
12. dlboyd
13. Roanon
14. 1FSTCAT
15. Renegade 13 ( thanks Gryphin )
16. Ed Kolis
17. Spoo
18. Slynky
19. Alneyan ( thanks Slynky )
20. Gandalph
21. mwbard
22. Deathhead
23. Asmala
24. Obliviator
25. Joachim
26. Gozguy
27. paul45
28. parabolize
29. Phoenix-D ( thanks Slynky)
30. CheriJoBates
31. Vermillion De'Sade
32. Nick Eupater
33. Tanus
34. Quasar
35. douglas
36. brianeyci
37. Mike$
38. Flatline
39. The Company
40. Master B
41. Wildcard06
42. Ragnarok
43. Kana

Thank you

[ August 02, 2004, 21:28: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

tesco samoa

August 3rd, 2004, 01:15 AM

Warning. THere are a few people who expressed interest in this thread about joining, or who said they would join and send funds via postal service but have not verified that they commited.

I would like to get that worked out today.

I sent a few pm's out to people

But work calls so I cannot contact each of you individually.

So Trooper and SE5 send me a PM... And the others read your PM's

That way I can finalize the list of players tomorrow.

tesco samoa

August 3rd, 2004, 01:20 AM

http://www.tescosamoa.com/racetosev/

come join up players...

When you join up please use your pbw nick... and there is a usergroup called Players for you to join.

The reason for this is that the forum is open to all but there will be an area for just the players to view due to None Disclosure Acts and such...

primitive

August 3rd, 2004, 01:58 AM

Thanks for thinking of me Tesco, but I will sit this tournament out.

Good luck to all the players (and administrators) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Chronon

August 3rd, 2004, 02:52 AM

Tesco, I just sent you my email address. Please let me know if you do not get it. Thanks again for hosting the tournament. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D

August 3rd, 2004, 07:34 AM

You've already got my address apparently, since I got a race to SE5 email, but:

pdse4@cox.net

brianeyci

August 3rd, 2004, 08:12 AM

<edited>

[ August 03, 2004, 17:53: Message edited by: brianeyci ]

tesco samoa

August 3rd, 2004, 12:39 PM

i saw it... your ok... ps that is my home email...

if you could be so kind to delete that post it would
be great

brianeyci

August 3rd, 2004, 06:55 PM

yes, where is my netettiquite (damn I can't even spell it lol), see how new I am =D

Ok tesco e-mailing you my uh e-mail now =D

Brian

tesco samoa

August 3rd, 2004, 08:35 PM

http://www.tescosamoa.com/racetosev/viewtopic.php?t=12

the heavy hitter himself is wishing some good luck...

Ed Kolis

August 4th, 2004, 02:18 AM

Wow, and I thought you were just talking about Renegade 13... I wonder how Aaron would do at his own game? I'd like to see http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tesco samoa

August 4th, 2004, 02:33 AM

no the heavy hitter in these parts is MM

geoschmo

August 4th, 2004, 12:10 PM

We were *this* close to getting Aaron in a game a couple years ago when PBW got started. Almost had him talked into it then he decided he had to work on Dungeon Odessy or something. We did get Richard in that game however. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tesco samoa

August 4th, 2004, 03:20 PM

CheriJoBates , Dragon_rider10 , Hustler, Mike$, Cheeze, Nick Eupater, Paladino, Quasar, Roanon, Vermillion De'Sade

Emails sent... but if your hear first

A forum has been created for the tourney

http://www.tescosamoa.com/racetosev/

Please join up

This is the site where you will be able to communicate with other players

See what game you�re a member of

Get prizes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Well hope to see you there.

One more day and the games are set up�

Shrapnel thread where news is posted

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=011939

Slynky

August 4th, 2004, 04:12 PM

I'd be delighted to be able to log into the forum and see these things of which you speak, but as I mentioned in a message to you couple of days ago, I can't sign in. Also, I received some message about needing to get parental signatures and fax off permission (so, I guess I must have clicked the wrong "older than 13" question). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Anything you could do on that end, Tesco? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

Renegade 13

August 4th, 2004, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
Wow, and I thought you were just talking about Renegade 13... I hope you aren't serious! Me, a heavy hitter? Not a chance, I'm a light weight http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

tesco samoa

August 4th, 2004, 09:34 PM

Game groupings are done... Will post on the 5th...

4 games of 11 to start....

tesco samoa

August 5th, 2004, 01:07 AM

Official Game Rosters

Atull Game

Slynky
dlboyd
Cheeze
Vermillion De'Sade
1FSTCAT
Renegade 13
Parasite
Joachim
Paladino
paul45
Gozguy

Dertran Game

Alneyan
Nick Eupater
Gandalph
JKUO
Drizzt321
Quasar
Wildcard06
Spoo
Roanon
Dragon_rider10
douglas

Osshod Game

Phoenix-D
Asmala
alarikf
Flatline
parabolize
Chronon
Obliviator
brianeyci
Mac
The Company
Kana

Tudran Game

Master B
RexTorres
Mike$
Hustler
mark_w
Tanus
Deathhead
CheriJoBates
WarLord Ragnarok
Ed Kolis
mwbard

Slynky

August 5th, 2004, 01:23 AM

And the fun begins!

So far, it looks to be the best Tourney I've seen since I've been a memeber of PBW and this forum.

Thanks to all who have helped it get started, who have contributed to make it a success, and to those who joined to vie for a prize, have fun, and do some good for PBW!

Good luck to all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky

August 5th, 2004, 02:28 AM

That new splash screen looks great, David!

David E. Gervais

August 5th, 2004, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Slynky:
That new splash screen looks great, David! Thanks, but ..ssssssssh, you should post comments like this on the R2SeV forum. The hordes of fans here don't have access to the intro pic and might get jealous. (it's supposed to be an 'exclusive' graphic for those that entered the tournament.)

But I do aprieciate any and all drooling. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Asmala

August 5th, 2004, 10:39 PM

The tournament is starting and I got my internet connection back. Things are certainly looking good http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Good luck for everybody!

Slynky

August 5th, 2004, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by Asmala:
The tournament is starting and I got my internet connection back. Things are certainly looking good http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Good luck for everybody! You mean the broadband connection? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Cheeze

August 5th, 2004, 10:49 PM

Things were looking good for the rest of the players....but then disaster struck as Asmala's connection returned. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Hail to the King, baby!!!

Asmala

August 5th, 2004, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by Slynky:
You mean the broadband connection? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif Nope, I'm using a dial-up till I move again in two or three weeks. But even a dial-up is nice compared to nothing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Atrocities

August 5th, 2004, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Slynky:
So, Atrocities, let me try to understand the ships sets you made to give away:

Custom ship set for winners (or placers). What does this mean exactly? If I understand it, it basically means you develop the race description. Is that right? The basic set is made. The winner of the set, from my understanding, will get to name it, come up with a back story, or have me do it for them. But naming the set is totally up to the winner and from that point forward that SET will always be known as that Players set.

If the player does not like the texture, I can work with them to try and come up with one they do like. However, my time is limited.

Slynky

August 6th, 2004, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by Atrocities:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Slynky:
So, Atrocities, let me try to understand the ships sets you made to give away:

Custom ship set for winners (or placers). What does this mean exactly? If I understand it, it basically means you develop the race description. Is that right? The basic set is made. The winner of the set, from my understanding, will get to name it, come up with a back story, or have me do it for them. But naming the set is totally up to the winner and from that point forward that SET will always be known as that Players set.

If the player does not like the texture, I can work with them to try and come up with one they do like. However, my time is limited. <hr /></blockquote>Hehe, Atrocities, you must have missed my Posts in the Race forum. And certainly, weren't privy to the PM between me and Fyron. I have forsaken endeavoring for a copy of SE V or a Beta testor position. Now, my goal is one of your shipsets...especially after that teaser on a certain splash screen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif .

Renegade 13

August 6th, 2004, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by Cheeze:
Things were looking good for the rest of the players....but then disaster struck as Asmala's connection returned. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Hail to the King, baby!!! Haha, I'm sure glad I'm in a different game than Asmala...should make things a little easier http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky

August 6th, 2004, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Cheeze:
Things were looking good for the rest of the players....but then disaster struck as Asmala's connection returned. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Hail to the King, baby!!! Haha, I'm sure glad I'm in a different game than Asmala...should make things a little easier http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <hr /></blockquote>While that's true (thanking my upright-walking god), there are some heavy hitters with us, Renegade...1FSTCAT and Joachim come to mine REAL quick!

Renegade 13

August 6th, 2004, 04:23 AM

Originally posted by Slynky:
While that's true (thanking my upright-walking god), there are some heavy hitters with us, Renegade...1FSTCAT and Joachim come to mine REAL quick! You forgot to include yourself as a heavy hitter! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky

August 6th, 2004, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Slynky:
While that's true (thanking my upright-walking god), there are some heavy hitters with us, Renegade...1FSTCAT and Joachim come to mine REAL quick! You forgot to include yourself as a heavy hitter! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <hr /></blockquote>I'm not a heavy hitter...just above average http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

mac5732

August 7th, 2004, 06:17 PM

I think there should be a prize for the lst and 2nd player knocked out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif That way us older Genteelman might have a chance of winning something http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tesco samoa

August 10th, 2004, 11:47 AM

Games start sunday...

Also

Looking for some no playing members of this forum to be used in a pool of replacements for when players go on 1 or 2 week vacations.'

if your interested post here.

Joachim

August 10th, 2004, 08:25 PM

Three Cheers for Tesco!! Hip Hip, Hurrah http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Hip Hip, Hurrah http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Hip Hip, Hurrah http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

And a big thankyou to everyone who made this tourney possible. I for one really appreciate the effort that goes into organising such wondeful events for the SE community.

Caduceus

August 10th, 2004, 08:28 PM

No kidding. Tesco and everyone else involved, this has been a super-human effort.

It looks like it is going to be a great success! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Wildcard

tesco samoa

August 11th, 2004, 09:58 AM

One more day to get your empires loaded.

Roanon

August 11th, 2004, 10:21 AM

I think there should be a prize for the lst and 2nd player knocked out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> That way us older Genteelman might have a chance of winning something <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

2nd player knocked out. 1st might be too easy to achieve http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

tesco samoa

August 11th, 2004, 12:18 PM

too who? the player knocked out ?

Caduceus

August 11th, 2004, 02:15 PM

too who? the player knocked out ?

Woo!

I'm weak, kill me!!

Wildcard

brianeyci

August 12th, 2004, 12:38 AM

I think there should be a prize for the lst and 2nd player knocked out... older people have a chance to win...

What lol just because some are younger we'll automatically be better lol... you're lucky you don't have to worry about integral calculus, going two hours to work washing dishes and making french fries, and fight with siblings to get on the computer = )

tesco samoa

August 12th, 2004, 05:25 PM

Has anyone seen Paladino ??

If you know this player please contact the person and tell them they have to get their empire loaded asap and to read their emails from me, pbw....

Caduceus

August 13th, 2004, 03:27 PM

What lol just because some are younger we'll automatically be better lol... you're lucky you don't have to worry about integral calculus, going two hours to work washing dishes and making french fries, and fight with siblings to get on the computer = )

I think I will speak on behalf of the rest of us by saying that I wish I had these problems... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Wildcard

Captain Kwok

August 16th, 2004, 11:12 PM

Greetings.

Just in case you missed it on the Race to SE:V Tournament Forums (http://www.tescosamoa.com/racetosev/index.php), Tescosamoa is on vacation so I've assumed ownership of the 4 tournament games. Please send your related requests to me for the next week or so until Tesco gets back.

Thanks!

Captain Kwok

Slynky

August 31st, 2004, 07:27 AM

Attention ATULL players:

A warning posted in the RACE forum!

Slynky

September 1st, 2004, 01:47 AM

Post deleted by Slynky

Roanon

September 1st, 2004, 02:39 AM

This is why I would have preferred a game without any trades, as I have misunderstood the rules. Now, due to the small scale of this galaxy and the MUST of tech and colonist exchange, this game turns into a diplomatic slaughter rather than a strategic/tactical Space Empires game.
Am I really the only one preferring to fight it out, even as a lone wolf, rather than having to write diplomatic emails untill the keyboard is smoking?

Slynky

September 1st, 2004, 08:51 AM

I would have preferred it that way as well, Roanon, but considering there was no way to stop it with a game setting, it was something that a person had to do because who wants to be the only one NOT doing it, eh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

tesco samoa

September 1st, 2004, 12:03 PM

can we have this removed from this thread.

this message as well.

Ie... the Last 3 Posts.

right back to

Attention ATULL players:

A warning posted in the RACE forum!

geoschmo

September 1st, 2004, 12:14 PM

Um, there's really nothing here that violates any Shrapnel forum policy so there's no reason to delete anyone's Posts without their consent. Does Roanon or Slynky have any objection to removing these Posts and taking the conversation elsewhere? If not guys go ahead and edit your Posts down and I'll delete them out.

Slynky

September 1st, 2004, 12:35 PM

Well, frankly, I do have a little problem with censorship.

First, I don't seen anything wrong with Roanon's comment nor my reply. Just an opinion on a game setting/option.

As to my longer message, I posted it as an explanation of why I was withdrawing from the Tourney. It also explains I will be "gifting" my empire out to all the people I met so far in an equitable fashion. And that means ALL the people I have met so far. It also explains why I won't be in any more multiplayer games. And, frankly (again), I posted it here because not all the people go to the other forum.

So, unless I've broken a forum rule, I'd like it to stay.

tesco samoa

September 1st, 2004, 01:03 PM

delete me

Slynky

September 1st, 2004, 03:56 PM

It's gone.

Captain Kwok

September 1st, 2004, 08:49 PM

tesco samoa said:
delete me

Also note Tesco - you can delete your own Posts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Slynky

September 1st, 2004, 09:20 PM

tesco samoa said:
delete me

Yeah, took me a moment to figure out how to do it myself...you have to click on "Edit" then at the bottom, there is a delete option.

Ragnarok

September 2nd, 2004, 10:33 AM

Tesco, since autoturns are off right now on the server the Tudran game is 2 days overdue. We are waiting on one Last player but still 2 days is a long time...Could you manually run the turn? Or is there something goin on that we don't know about?

tesco samoa

September 2nd, 2004, 11:33 AM

done.

Captain Kwok

September 2nd, 2004, 09:18 PM

Ragnarok said:
Tesco, since autoturns are off right now on the server the Tudran game is 2 days overdue. We are waiting on one Last player but still 2 days is a long time...Could you manually run the turn? Or is there something goin on that we don't know about?

Sorry. I was looking after this game but got caught up in a matter concerning the Atull game and did not notice this turn was ready for .exe!

tesco samoa

September 2nd, 2004, 10:09 PM

kwok that done was for the game to get a kick... please do not kick it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

brianeyci

September 15th, 2004, 04:07 PM

I am in the Osshod game, and I need a replacement player from October 1 to an indefinite period because we are moving. I may be lucky, and might be able to get my dsl provider to hook up the internet in a couple days. I may not. However, I am betting on the worst, and the possibility of being unable to complete my turns for a week or more is quite real.

Also, if you feel that playing a couple days only without any guarantee of playing longer is cheating, I am willing to give up my empire a week early, to guarantee that you will play at least 10 or so turns.

Conditions :

1. You have some sort of instant messaging system, or IRC, or something where we can discuss strategy real time. Maybe a couple sessions will be enough for me to bring you up to speed. If you don't, we can do through e-mail, although not being able to talk in real-time is awkward.

2. You are fairly familiar with SE:V. Maybe a vet. I feel silly for asking for a vet, because I am a newbie. But I think I am doing quite well (I am in 4th or 5th place Last time I checked), and am nearing a critical stage in my plans. If ur not a vet, no sweat. Tell me what point-defense cannons are, tell me whether or not you research missiles, and tell me the most important technologies in the early game, and if you're right you'll be in lol.

3. You will play all your turns and guarantee that you can play for at least two weeks after October 1.

Also, in the end, there is a strong possibility that you will stay on as a consultant to my empire, if you feel attached to it. So message me now and get your hands on an exciting game and an exciting empire!

Brian