Legends of Faerun - Closed (Game started)

[Baalz]

Yep, thanks DC.

[Hadrian_II]

Kailasa is out.

It seems that Arga Dis is stronger than it looks (note to self, awaken sage pretenders do not always imply weakness). Also Lanka has Attacked me, and Vanheim moved also next to my capital.

[Zeldor]

If coobe just disappears [like he tends to do in every game], it will be really unbalancing - Oceania will get whole big lake without any effort.

I think that there was a big flaw in the creation of that game. Instead of having many available starts, it should have only the amount equal to starting nations. People are now getting owned without any chances to fight and others have plenty of room to expand.

[Burnsaber]

If coobe just disappears [like he tends to do in every game], it will be really unbalancing - Oceania will get whole big lake without any effort.


I've been waging war with R'lyeh for 3 turns now. Coobe managed to fend of my first assault 3 turns ago, but now second wave is striking. I had no idea that he's been staling all this time! I thought that he was cooking something vicious in that capital of his..

Egh. If we find a sub, I'll feel like an donkey-hole* for invading him immediately. If we don't, my victory will be shallow and undeserved.


*EDIT: Curse the god-damned profanity filter, curse it to hell!

[Zeldor]

In my test game R'lyeh had really good chances to beat Oceania. Atlantis had no chance with either. No matter what pretender choice was picked. Atlantis really really sucks in many areas and I don't think that Basalt Kings are an excuse for extremely crappy and expensive national troops. And uw nation without N mages? huh...

[Lingchih]

Lamasus, in a short respite from battle, looked out upon her lands. Such an easy conquering it had been. And no serious foes in sight. Her neighbors had been awed by the sight of her, and wanted no part of fighting her. This was too easy, she thought. Surely there must still be a foe worthy of her. Perhaps she should attack one of the ancient powers bordering her kingdom.

But no, the Prophet is right. We should take all the lands allocated to us, and then choose our war. What war shall it be? She does not know.

--- and yes, she's a frakking Gorgon, what else could it be?---

[Calahan]

I would like everyone to bid welcome and give thanks to 'slayers_ai' who has kindly volunteered to help us all out by taking over the staling R'yleh.

Thanks for subbing in 'slayers_ai', and I wish you the best of luck in becoming a true Legend of Faerun.

[Agema]

At the highest peak of the citadel in Caelum, the war minister heard the latest reports from the frontline.

"So, Tikyama, what news of the mammoth division?"
"The mammoth division has been performing excellently, eminence. Province after province have fallen to those few, woolly heroes of our nation's glory. The general has named the brave beasts in honour of their accomplishments."
"I see. And what names will we be inscribing upon the highest peaks as eternal memory of their glory?"
"Let me check the scrolls. Three have fallen, and three remain: they are Limpy I, Limpy II, and Limpy III..."
"Limpy? All three? Why? And why are their names so unimpressive?"
"Eminence, you must understand that throughout the supreme and magnificent service for the nation they could not expect to come away unscathed, and the Habab Seraph who leads them is known for lacking proper respect, like many of his black-winged sort."
"You mean, they all have limps?"

A short pause arose whilst the only sound was the distant moans of wind swirling throughout the peaks.

"Yes, your eminence."
"So, all mammoths of our heavy division have been afflicted with limps? Nothing else? Apart, of course, from facile and inappropriate names."
"One of the deceased, so named Pustule, caught a disease before the end."
"Pustule? Pustule and three Limpys? The god decreed their names are to be inscribed for eternity! Are you telling me future generations of our race looking back on the wonders of our achievements, bards singing our noble histories and endeavours, are going to be admiring that?"
"If I may say so, eminence, if I can try to explain, in the final battle, their limps were a great boon - the other three charged heroically into melee ahead whilst the Raptorians dithered, and died in the purest fire of heroic combat unsupported. Indeed, without those limps, we wouldn't have a mammoth division at all anymore. I think in recognition..."
"SHUT UP! SHUT UP AND GET OUT BEFORE I HAVE YOU DEWINGED"

[slayers_ai]

rly needs support! we are fighting against Oceania now. we have Gems for magic equipments or gold. PM me please!

[Trumanator]

Does anyone else find it oddly funny that Ulm and Marverni are the current province leaders?

[Zeldor]

Huh, some people here are trying to break deals or NAPs without even trying to put some storytelling. I hope that are just some misunderstandings and people got focused on sunny weekend and will explain everything.

[Lingchih]

Many nations have approached mighty Lamasus, with offers of trade and alliance. With our homelands conquered, she did of course welcome these envoys, and listen to their pleas.

Lamasus had made no decisions yet, but she has sent return envoys to those nations. The original envoys, of course, were turned to stone when they accidentally looked at her. You guys should really put blindfolds on your envoys in the future.

[Agema]

Does anyone else find it oddly funny that Ulm and Marverni are the current province leaders?

It might not be that surprising if both took awake combat pretenders and so have been able to expand very quickly. After that, there is always chance with who your neighbours are, where they focus their expansion and whether they are rushed, which can often leave more indy provinces to snap up easily for even relatively weak nations.

[Starshine_Monarch]

Early as it is, I think I've been missing too many turns now. Sorry, but I guess I'll go AI.

I don't know how many people actually saw this, so I'm posting it again. Please don't PM me regarding diplomacy anymore as I'm not really there.

[Calahan]

Think New Jomon might need to be set to AI since they have staled the last two turns, with another one looking like it's on the way in the next hour or so. They also seem to be bottom of every graph and going nowhere fast in general, so the chances of finding a sub for them at this stage are practically zero.

'Incabulos' is controlling them, and he/she is also currently staling in one other game that I know of (CarCrash). So it's a general AWOL thing and not just this game.

[Executor]

We're losing players damn fast here, that's what? 6 nation so far and it's only turn 14.

[llamabeast]

I think it's Baalz's curse.

[Baalz]

*sigh* I beg. I plead. "Please don't join this game unless you can *at least* line up a sub if you can't play". I try my best to keep the flow going so nobody's got an excuse for losing interest. I think my next game is going to be by invite or first hand vouching only. :/ Hopefully the very helpful DC will be available to switch yet another player AI...

[Baalz]

[switching from annoyed admin voice to creepy demon voice]

The rebel Kalaisian monkeys have been dealt with. How they hid their impudence, scurrying up a mountain and finding some fey spirits there to quietly worship hoping that word of their escape would not reach the demon lords of Lanka. Foolish monkeys. The insects of the jungles give us millions of eyes and the mountain spirits are frail protection from my hunger. As soon as a clear location of this false capital was determined a warband was assembled. These foolish monkeys would have the freedom from Lanka rule they desired, but it would be the freedom of the grave. Or to be more precise the freedom of the scrap pit after the feast, for who would dig a grave for these lesser beings?

Descending on their enclave it became apparent that the foolish monkeys had already aroused the wrath of another nation, for Arga Dis also hungered for their blood. With a howl of rage the hoard of demons charged day and night untiringly to the Kalaisian sacred mountain lest discipline be administered by other hands. These rebel monkeys were mine and I would feast. Waves of undead made short work of the walls of their city, then waves of demons swarmed over the beleaguered defenders - overwhelming them quickly despite the frantic action of their wizards and the ensuing brutal barrage. The fury of the demon warband could not be slowed.

The great feast was quickly assembled as servants and children were dragged out and piled onto the still warm bodies of the fallen warriors and made to watch as they were eaten one at a time.

I suffer no desertion from my fold, let none forget this lesson.

[Executor]

-The House of Enoch-

Enoch, the King of the Fomorians, notable for his one eye which can kill anyone it looks upon. It is said that he gained this power as a child when watching his father's druids preparing poisonous spells, the fumes of which rose into his eye.
He is the ruler of the plagued and cursed lands where death resides now.
One legend tells it that Enoch, the Pernicious Eye, is fated to lift the curse that harrows the fomorian people ever since the Partholan invasion.
He would lead the people to distant shores, where they would reign for thousands of years.

And so it was prophesided in the book of Buarainech, the great King and sage of the old, the last untainted Fomorian potentate.

"And the Kings of the past, the guardians of the realm of watery dead, shall return to the dark and stormy ocean realm of the drowened dead and claim it as their own again. On this journey, the one named Enoch, the Pernicious Eye, shall deliver bliss to the unblessed, and lead them to distant shored where they would reign for another ten thousand years, before the plague and gale befalls them again as it is written in the stars."

[WingedDog]

Abysia is seeking to buy astral pearls. We can offer fire, water gems or gold.

[Frozen Lama]

I will be gone tomorrow thru Sunday.
since that would be a long delay, Trumanator will be subbing in for me. since nothing major is happening for me, this should be ok. just letting you guys know in case you need to PM him.

I know its normally not a good idea to have someone in the game sub for someone else in it, but he's my brother, and Niefelheim is located far from C'tis. if anyone is strongly against this, speak up. i hope you guys don't mind.

[Baalz]

I don't have an objection, but be aware that playing more than one nation with the same key sometimes flags the anti-piracy logic so that neither turn is processed.

[Frozen Lama]

I don't have an objection, but be aware that playing more than one nation with the same key sometimes flags the anti-piracy logic so that neither turn is processed.

right, i had forgotton about that. if it is a problem, i can probably find someone else to sub if necessary.

[Trumanator]

Well in the past we've started games with us sending in multiple pretenders, then setting them AI. It's worked fine so far. And didn't you play some of Evilhomer's turns in Wombat?

[Baalz]

Yes, I did. Played 3 turns, the first 2 worked and the 3rd staled both of us. Not sure how it works, sometimes it trips and sometimes not.

[Lingchih]

I've had bad luck with it. Almost always gotten the double stale.

[Zeldor]

Use same game copy, same OS, etc and it will be totally fine.

[Calahan]

If Trumanator and Frozen Lama are brothers, then can I take a guess that they trust each other enough to share their CD-Keys? If so, then all Trumanator has to do is use Frozen Lama's CD-Key when doing Frozen Lama's turns.

This would avoid any of the 'same CD-key' problems.

[Baalz]

Use same game copy, same OS, etc and it will be totally fine.

Nah, that's exactly what I did, turns taken from the same computer. Seems to trip the anti-piracy logic (based on my very limited number of tries) about 1/3rd of the time, so I'm not at all sure what trips it. I know some people never seem to run into the problem, others it happens with some regularity.

[Burnsaber]

Oceania is buying Dwarven Hammers for 20 earth gems each! Now is your chance to profit!

[Unoptimized]

OOC: Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I forgot to do my turn this morning. Running late for work ect. ect. Anyway, if we could have like a...6 hour turn extension, I would be quite grateful

Thanks

[Zeldor]

Atlantis is selling dwarven hammers for 15E + 5 gems each!

[Calahan]

The "Readers of Telos" are horrified to hear of the water dwellers charging such extortionate prices for magical hammers. It is usually against Agarthan society to offer our services to nations who are not our friends, but we feel there are many potential friends yet to be met, and as such we would not want one of these nations to suffer at the hands of the Atlantian extortionists.

Therefore Agartha is happy to offer magical Hammers of the Dwarf for 15 Earthen gems, or 12 Astral gems, or 12 Deathly gems.

[Baalz]

Ah, the glory of carnage. The Marverni barechests swarmed like ants whose nest had been crushed, stingers raising annoying welts. Wave after wave they came, outnumbering the Lanka warparty manyfold - barechests and slingers and archers and maiden archers and more barechests. This is good, for we bring large appetites with us. Stacking the bodies like cordwood, they pile higher than a Bandar's head! Tonight we feast, tomorrow we cast our eyes on the large larder ahead which the druids have thoughtfully stocked for us, and wonder if these ants will sally forth to sting us or huddle in their stone shell waiting for us to crack it and suck out the juicy bits. Our scouts report better armored and organized forces ahead, who can know how they will react? Perhaps they shall entertain us before the feast, this is always best.

[Isokron]

All lies, but what can you expect from the demon worshipers. Most of the Marverni warriors bravely ran away long before the demons had a chance to close in and eat them.

[Cicadian]

Yomi is buying earth gems at 20 gold/gem. Send PM if interested!

[Burnsaber]

Oceania is trading earth gems for nature & fire gems, about 20 gems are available for this purpose.

[Zeldor]

Atlantis is selling W gems for other gem types, preferably S,D,N.

[Executor]

Atlantis is selling W gems for other gem types, preferably S,D,N.

Same here, Fomoria off tops that offer with a 1.1 for 1 gem ratio.

[Revolution]

The Greater Allied Provinces of Unified Ulm are interested in picking up some Water gems and Astral pearls. We offer 25 gold for water gems and 30 gold for astral pearls. We are also willing to trade earth and nature gems for the previously mentioned gems, though our nature gems are somewhat limited in number.

[Revolution]

Ulm thanks the many interested parties who have an abundance of water gems. I am now just looking for astral pearls...except for those who will accept gold for their water gems (or any gems for that matter), gold is something I can spare.

[Frozen Lama]

I am back, and shall continue C'tis' valient fight against the inevitable.

The double life argan hoplites slowly wade through the hordes of C'tis, but then, through the carnage, come Ud'ekemma the immortal chariot and champion of the people.....er lizards.. of C'tis!! His awesome presance is too much for even the hardened hoplites and he kills many. His presance is not too much for the huge ugly ogre dude leading them though, and a mighty smash lays the champion of C'tis low. Good thing he's immortal!

[Lingchih]

And so, surrounded on all sides by friendly nations, and unable to expand her realm any more, Lamasus made the decision to attack the fearsome Lich King of Vaasa. Surrounded by her priests and prophet, the fearless Gorgon girded herself for war with the unholy power. Hundreds of Maenads moved to the front, to attack the undead scourge. Behind them came the mighty Centaurs, ready to take on the Lich's vaunted Demon Knights. And of course, Lamasus herself, killer of thousands, came to the battle to lead it.

After the battle, Lamasus pondered the outcome. "Never attack a lich king with naked chicks", she was heard to say, as she flew far, far away from that accursed land.

[Executor]

wtf? Fomoria has national summons?
Hid did I not notice this, these morrigans are damn interesting.

[WingedDog]

wtf? Fomoria has national summons?


The world of Faerun is full of surprises. :)

[Calahan]

wtf? Fomoria has national summons?
Hid did I not notice this, these morrigans are damn interesting.

Think they have them because sacred cloud trapezing giants are not good enough without them :re:

[Calahan]

@ All, and roleplay off.

Sorry everyone, but I've had to ask for a short 12 hour delay of the current turn. Work has just landed a problem on me, so it's doubtful I'll get home before midnight now. Asked for 12 hours since I might need some sleep before I tackle the turn, since the early stage has passed so need to put more general thought into turns now than earlier on.

[Baalz]

FWIW, delays measured in hours rather than days will pretty much always be granted.

[Jazzepi]

FWIW, delays measured in hours rather than days will pretty much always be granted.

I'd like a delay of 989403 hours.

THANKS,
Jazzepi

[Agema]

I really would like a delay. I'll be away about 20.00GMT Friday to Sunday 20.00GMT, so I should be able to do the next two but a 24h extension would be good after - I don't think a sub should be required for one turn.

[Executor]

Interesting, my capital seems to be loosing population at LA R'lyehs speed...

[Agema]

As noted, this current turn is in from me, but I can't get another in until late Sunday GMT. If you really want the game to carry on forwards without delay I'll try to find a sub, otherwise please hold briefly.

[Zeldor]

WTF happened? I submitted my turn, but got a stale one...

[Falkor]

Trade agency "Smiling Shadow" with headquarters in great capital of Helheim offers good prices for astral pearls. For 20 pieces you can expect fantastic reward in form of either 25 fire rubys or 25 water sapphires. For adepts of dark arts we offer 20 black diamonds(*). The scale of transaction is negotiable.

*The agency does not take any responsibility for wrong use of our magical resourses.

[Jazzepi]

We'd like to ship over 20 astral for 25 water.

Jazzepi

[Cicadian]

Yomi is looking for nature gems and gold. The more the better. In exchange we can offer:
Gems: Astral, Death, Air, Water
Boosters: All boosters bar blood

[Falkor]

Trade route to Tien Chi will be established this week. Our winged agent will deliver you 25 brand new water sapphires. Please, keep pearls ready.

"Smiling Shadow" still has some rubys and black diamonds to trade. We also have a special offer for more decadent customers. For more information contact one of our agents secretly. Password: "young red wine taste best".

[WingedDog]

Abysia needs 10 earth gems, we can pay with anything but air gems in return.

[Zeldor]

If someone wants to cast something nasty, Atlantis is selling 100W gems.

[Baalz]

I'll be postponing hosting for the US holiday weekend. Quickhost is still on, so if everyone gets their turn in it'll host, but enjoy your weekend if you have plans.

[Jazzepi]

The great people of T'ien Chi are looking for two or three dwarven hammers. We can pay in items, gems, or gold. Give us a message if you have any for sale.

Jazzepi

[WingedDog]

Abysia buys earth gems for the fire ones at 1:1,5 rate. We could also offer other gems. Contact our representative.

[Executor]

Fomoria selling large amounts of water gems, will trade for any other type of gems for 1:1,3 ratio.
Will also buy death or astral gems for gold, 30gp for 1 gem.

[Lingchih]

Wow, that's a lot of gold per 1 gem. You must have something up your sleeve.

[Zeldor]

Atlantis is selling Rune Smashers to those that can value it's importance. PM me with offers.

[Calahan]

The Story of Agartha

Chapter VII - "The Devouring Earth"

Ningublaga and Utuhegal are brothers. Twin brothers. In fact they are the only twins brothers ever to have been seen amongst the race of Oracles. It is so rare for our Earth to bless two so highly and so equally, that much has been predicted of them since they came into being.

The Prophecy of Telosn'rahht adds further weight to these expectations, for it tells of '....a mirrored Oracle, who casts a solid reflection, and shall have the power to command our Earth to swallow the unworthy". Long have "The Readers of Telos" been connecting this passage to the fate of Ningublaga and Utuhegal.


During the final days of the early growth season, a large party of Druids met the twin brothers of Agartha for the first time. Though little did they suspect how hungry our Earth was, or indeed how well it would feed that day. For our Earth readily obeyed the commands of the twins, and chasmed itself wide to consume the magical energies of these unworthy mages.

The Ones are expecting our Earth to feel hungry again very soon.

[WingedDog]

Anybody cares Vanheim and Niefelheim stale for some time? As long as I understand Vanheim is consumed by Fomoria, so it could just be set to AI, but Niefelheim is in a pretty good shape, shouldn't it be subbed?
P.S. Abysia is still looking for the earth gems FNSWD gems, gold or some items could be payed in return.

[Baalz]

So, this makes what, like 20% of the people who started this game have just abandoned it at this point? I think I am cursed at admining a game. :(

Well, the silver lining I guess is several strong positions have shaken out of the shaky start and I at least am having fun in my little corner of the world.

[Executor]

Vanheim should be set to AI, they went AWOL the turn I attacked, no point in looking for a sub now most of their remaining troops are militia but it's not my decision.

[Zeldor]

Yeah, there is surprisingly high amount of people disappearing or going AI without any good reason. And some nations are really benefitting from that [I don't want to point fingers, but we all know them really well].

[Frozen Lama]

Well since Niefel is my brothers nation, i will speak for him here. I'm afraid he is a little burned out right now on dominions, but i didn't realize he has been staling. we should either set him AI or find a sub. If anyone thinks we can actually find a sub, i can play 1-2 turns for him until then, but i don't want to take over, even though C'tis isn't going to last much longer :p

[Lingchih]

There are still quite enough of us left for an interesting game, Baalz.

[Baalz]

I don't have the energy to scare up a sub, but if somebody else can I'll switch them in.

[Frozen Lama]

of course it looks like TC is gobbling up a lot of territory from Niefel, so its losing ground fast. I can set him AI so that everyone gets a chance for some of his empire? just tell me what to do.

[Lingchih]

yeah, just set him to AI

[Trumanator]

Really sorry about this guys, basically what Frozen said, plus my internet going out was the last straw. Obviously its fixed, but I'm cutting back anyway. I'll set AI. Once again, sorry to cause trouble.

[Jazzepi]

Really sorry about this guys, basically what Frozen said, plus my internet going out was the last straw. Obviously its fixed, but I'm cutting back anyway. I'll set AI. Once again, sorry to cause trouble.

Protip : Put PD in your provinces :O

Jazzepi

[Calahan]

I'm happy to look for a sub for Nief if it helps. The empire looked in good shape until Jazzepi's aggressive multiple mouse slips :)

If I start the search now then we'll have a good 12 hours before hosting for a sub to come forward, and if Frozen Lama can do a turn or two then we'll have a day or two to find one.

I personally really hate seeing nations go AI due to the huge unbalancing it causes, and here it seems silly to me to turn a powerful nation like Nief AI just like that, since their position is probably fine. Plus some of us are having to fight tooth and nail for every single province, so wouldn't want to see others getting freebies :D

Edit: Have done a sub request post, and will contact Frozen Lama and ask him if he would kindly do a turn or two if a sub doesn't quickly appear.

[LoloMo]

I would be amenable to a 24 hour delay till we find a sub

[Calahan]

I would be amenable to a 24 hour delay till we find a sub

+1.

Think we've already lost more than enough nations to the AI, so I see no harm in at least trying to do something to avoid losing another one. And adding 24 hours to the current turn would be a great way to help out the sub hunt.

[Falkor]

I agree with the delay. Two turns ago Nifelheim was one of the strongest nations. Would be a shame to switch it to AI.

[WingedDog]

The Grand Vizier archaeolept temporary takes rulership over the nation of Abysia. But fear not, Valsoray returns soon and will not rest until the sky over entire Faerun turns red.

[Baalz]

Hosting delayed 24 hours and Abysian substitute installed.

[Lingchih]

Jeez, I was king of hoping Nief would be set to AI. Free provs for me. Hey, almost everyone else has gotten some free provs from the prodigious staling.

[Zeldor]

I got nothing :( Could I nominate one or two of my neighbours to disappear next?

[Frozen Lama]

Hey, almost everyone else has gotten some free provs from the prodigious staling.

not poor C'tis locked in their corner of the world.. :(

[Calahan]

Think the AI plague is only affecting one side of the map. There's not an AI for miles down old Agartha's way.

[Jazzepi]

Is someone playing Neif now? I'd like to know what I'm up agaisnt before I submit my turn.

Jazzepi

[Executor]

What's final about victory conditions?
Is it 200 provinces for 3 turn as suggested in the main post, or a certain amount of capitals?

[Trumanator]

I'm still playing Nief while I look for a sub.

[Zeldor]

I think we agreed on 50 VPs?

[Calahan]

I'm still playing Nief while I look for a sub.

Well apparantly not it seems since it appears Niefelheim are now AI this turn. Guess the work I did looking for a sub was a waste of time then. Thanks.

Yet another nation lost to the AI :( and a good one at that.

[Trumanator]

Well I did originally send in a turn going AI, but I sent in a revised turn before the game hosted with me playing since people didn't want me to go AI. Wouldn't that overwrite the previous one? At any rate, I didn't mean for you to waste your time :(

[Jazzepi]

I'm still playing Nief while I look for a sub.

Well apparantly not it seems since it appears Niefelheim are now AI this turn. Guess the work I did looking for a sub was a waste of time then. Thanks.

Yet another nation lost to the AI :( and a good one at that.

To be honest, I'm not sure you would have found a sub. I'm pretty sure nief is in really bad shape. I don't think he even has a bless worth speaking of beyond N4. All their expansion was with skin shifters, and I haven't seen a single one of the traditional big guys, or a horde of thug commanders.

Jazzepi

[Lingchih]

I see a Jarl staring right at me. And I'm about to hit it in the face with a Gorgon.

[Executor]

I would like to ask for a 2 hour delay, most likely won't need it, but just in case.

[Baalz]

I would like to ask for a 2 hour delay, most likely won't need it, but just in case.

Granted

[Zeldor]

Atlantis will buy:

- Elixirs of Life
- Pendants of Luck
- Rainbow Armors
- reinvig N boots

PM me with prices :)

[Zeldor]

That game is really cursed. Huh, I really never ever had so many bad luck in single game. And most of it has nothing to do with Misfortune. I got not bad starting postion, but all that happened later prevents me from doing anything with that nation, even simplest things.

How about restart with same starting positions? :P

[Calahan]

How about restart with same starting positions? :P

LoL, and with more reliable players!

[Zeldor]

Yeah, fix some really bad positions, replace those that went AI and play it again :)

[WingedDog]

I'm back to regain control over Abysia, many beers to archaeolept.

Baalz
Would you please switch e-mail back?

[Lingchih]

Wow, that was really funny guys. In the first battle with a Jarl, it ran up to my Gorgon, looked at it for one turn, then turned and ran as fast as it could off the battlefield :)
I have never seen a Jarl do that.

[WingedDog]

Wow, that was really funny guys. In the first battle with a Jarl, it ran up to my Gorgon, looked at it for one turn, then turned and ran as fast as it could off the battlefield :)
I have never seen a Jarl do that.

Perhabs he sudenly recalled he left his smoothing iron on at home?

[Executor]

Fomoria hereby places a bounty on Bogliod for he is a hard nut to crack!

We are buying hammers, thistle maces, fire boosters, moonvine bracelet, offer your prices.

[Agema]

Can I please put up a sub request for Caelum? I've got a RL crunch and I've struggled to pay it enough attention for the last few turns as it is. Caelum's not in great shape but there's still some fight in it.

Sorry guys.

[Lingchih]

Three more Nief Jarls killed. Killed them with maenads :)

Honestly, these are the worst Jarls I have ever seen.

[Zeldor]

Atlantis will buy F gems, we can pay in W. Also items available.

[Executor]

What the hell!?!?!?!?!
Let's open a poll, how many sites did I find with about 30 site searching spells in the last 2 turns?

[Agema]

If you're anything like me earlier on, about 2.

[Executor]

I wish! Zero, nothing, NOT A SINGLE ONE!!!
I blame Baalz for this!

[Zeldor]

Doest it beat 3 sites with 10x Voice of Tiamat?

[Jazzepi]

I laugh at all of you. I'm rolling in gems.

On that note, I'm offering forging services. We can do almost anything level 6 construction or below. We can even forge rings of wizardy and sorcery. Contact us to negotiate prices.

Jazzepi

[Executor]

Doest it beat 3 sites with 10x Voice of Tiamat?

Yes it does! EDIT: And by yes it does I mean no it doesn't...

Damn you Jazzepi! Damn you to hell!!!
I think it would be only fair if everybody sent me 5 gems of any kind to compensate my loses!

[Agema]

Can I request a 12hr extension? Should be able to do the turn this evening.

[Calahan]

Can I request a 12hr extension? Should be able to do the turn this evening.

Guess that all depends on whether Baalz wakes up in time to see the request :) WAKE UP BAALZ

[Burnsaber]

Oceania is in need of following items:

Starshine Skullcap
Skull Staff
Any Fire Booster
Any Air Booster
Water gems

We can pay in astral/earth/fire gems, or in Lightless Lanterns, Clams or Fetishes.

First come, first served! PM me your proposition

[Agema]

For the record anyone who wants to negotiate, Caelum will now be under the control of VFB, thanks to him for taking over.

[Jazzepi]

TC is looking for earth boots. Can trade gems or items. Would also like to pick up a crystal coin.

Jazzepi

[Baalz]

Can I request a 12hr extension? Should be able to do the turn this evening.

Sorry, request came at 3:45am my time and I didn't get it until after the turn host at 7am my time. You didn't shout loud enough. :)

[Zeldor]

Crap, can we change notification emails to 12h? I misciclicked and looked at wrong turn at llamaserver and was sure that it hots at 8PM. I was out of home when I got the notification email, so could do nothing about it :(

[Burnsaber]

Oceania is buying Death gems!

We can pay in earth/astral/fire.

[WingedDog]

"Umm… Master, I’m very sorry for the distur…”

“WHAT DO YOU WANT?!!”

“Umm… There's a person, master. He said he'd like to examine your dungeon, particularly the slave compound."

"Agrrrr! Another tourist! Tell him we are closed for the winter! Let him come back for sightseeing in a half of a year!"

"No, no. no, master, he affirms he represents the Blood Slave Union and would like to inspect the dungeons to make sure the living and medical treatment conditions for our slaves are observed, they all are having a meal three times a day and our sacrificial daggers are rust-free and disinfected, otherwise he’s writing a complaint to the Bloodhunting Department so they call off our licence and…”

"SILENCE!.. Urrr, bloody bureaucrats!.. What was his name again?"

"Bogus, master."

“Allright, nothing wrong is going to happen, if we let him in, I guess.”

“You are right, master.”

“I’m always right, you maggot! That’s why I’m in charge! Go now, proceed to your orders!”

----

This is ironic as I told to my business partner last turn the blood slaves I reserved for him 'ain't running anywhere'. :D

[Falkor]

Hosting: 24 hours per turn until 3 people request it gets lengthened.



I'd like to request 48h hosting time, please.
Who is with me? :)

[Zeldor]

I'm not :P Turns take me 5 mins :P But it's really strange that we got so far with 24h without protests.

[vfb]

Turns don't take me very long either. :)

But I just barely got the last one in, because I was out all day long. Actually the turn would have gone better if I hadn't managed to submit! :o

I'd be happy with a switch to 48 hours.

[Executor]

I'm good with the current 24hours, the turns take some time now but I like a fast game and I don't have any wars now to take extra time.

[Lingchih]

I'm still fine with the current hosting schedule.

[Baalz]

2 votes, one more and we lengthen it.

[Cicadian]

I'd like to switch if possible. Work is pretty crazy at the moment and I'm having trouble getting turns in in 24 hours.

[Baalz]

Switched to 48, kinda surprised we made it this long.

[Lingchih]

Well, on a map of this size, I am glad we did keep it 24 hour for so long, and would hope we keep it 48 hour for even longer. This could end up being, like, a two year game.

[Calahan]

Turn 38 - Message from Host
"Agartha had an unexplainable increase in wealth this turn. This could be caused by cheating"

Wish I did have a load of extra cash for no unexplainable reason. But no freebies came my way, and I'm just as poor as ever :(

[Executor]

Turn 38 - Message from Host
"Agartha had an unexplainable increase in wealth this turn.

:(

Fomoria demands 10000 gold pieces as tribute for your cheating!!!

[Frozen Lama]

Throughout the lands of C'tis, lizards rejoice for the might of their dead brethren has again proved victorius against the forces of evil opposing them. only by summoning 200+ undead in the first turn could they prevail, but prevail they did. The basalt kings of Atlantis sought to imprison and subjagate them, but their ancestors would not let them fail.

C'tis shall live on...... if only on a single province

[Jazzepi]

Selling air boosters and elemental staves.

Jazzepi

[Unoptimized]

Sorry guys, from the looks of things my turns are not resolving when I send them on a laptop. If its possible, I'd like an extension until thursday when I can get back to my PC.

Thanks, and sorry about the trouble.

[Baalz]

I had a problem trying to take my turns on my wife's laptop because it was Vista. Long story short, just move your dominions folder to "c:\dominions3" rather than "c:\program files\dominions3". Granting an extension in case you can't figure it out.

[WingedDog]

When you you are at the turn sending stage, it doesn't make difference what operating system you are using and what path Dominions are installed. More likely problem caused either:
1) problems with your mail domain;
2) problems with your internet provider;
3) problems with llamaserver.

You could get yourself a new e-mail account on different mail domain and try to send your turn-file from it. Llamaserver doesn't care from which e-mail turn was send.

[WingedDog]

Well, the reason was llamaserver, it is stuck again.

[WingedDog]

Unoptimized
Llamaserver works again, you may try to send your turn already. :)

[Unoptimized]

OH! Well, I'll give it a shot ASAP. Thanks Winged dog!

[Executor]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...:bored:

[Lingchih]

Well, I think I just saw a 50 turn attacker rout. C'tis may only have one prov, but he isn't giving it up easily.

[Unoptimized]

Sorry guys, I would have been back sooner, but my car got towed. :( We will now be returning to your normal person-eating schedule

[Frozen Lama]

That's 50 turn attack #2 so far. the hordes of C'tis cannot be killed... even though they vanish after every battle.......

[Burnsaber]

Oceania is buying death gems (again!)

We can give fire, earth or astral in return.

[Calahan]

Sorry everyone, but I am going to need a 24 hour delay of the current turn as I won't have chance to get the turn done until Sunday afternoon/evening (llamaserve time)

So apologies for the slight delay, especially since it's so close to the one we just had :(

[Baalz]

Granted, we've got to the point that turns can take a decent chunk of time so I'll be pretty liberal with reasonable requests for extension. Everyone just keep in mind that we've still got a lot of players so try to be considerate. One delay request per player per month still means we're barely playing.

[Zeldor]

Man, really, Adept Researcher on SC prophet?

[Baalz]

Haha, oh man what a turn! I'm gonna have to write up a decent AAR on this one, but suffice to say that Lanka is passing out the medals tonight!

[Executor]

Please do, I only saw two battles, that one thug and the suicide Abysian pretender. :)

[vfb]

Caelum eagerly awaits the tales from Lanka! Who are these great heroes you speak of? Perhaps Dahanavardhana, or Bhagavatiprasada, or Ramachandramurthy?

Hold on, a herald appears before the gates, bearing tidings of war and glory ... oh. "And A did pick up his sword and charge of into battle, and he was followed by B, not too far behind him, and there was another warrior, A, who slew 127 foes, not to be confused with the other A, who killed 111 of the enemy ... " :)

[Burnsaber]

Heh.

"I conquered waterdeep and all I got was a lousy Navigator's Guild"

[Executor]

Heh.

"I conquered waterdeep and all I got was a lousy Navigator's Guild"

At least you conquered it, I won't even think of attacking those indie provinces for anther 30 turns.

Errr, what did I miss? Since when does Vfb controls Cealum? Maybe a change in the ruling dynasty?

Fomoria buying a crystal coin, will pay in either gems or gold, we offer high amounts of both.

[Baalz]

The supreme commander of the Lanka military gazed upon the crumbling
walls of the Marverni capital. The culmination of years of hard
fought warfare was finally here, he had the druids by the throat and
could finally contemplate some peaceful times to lick wounds and plot.
Reflecting back upon the brutal casualties inflicted by these humans,
the very sky darkened by waves of spinning blades only to be lightened
by huge burning rocks he had to admit he had a new respect for the
soft skinned men. Many, many demons had been slain in the back and
forth struggle with this worthy opponent, the feast of their bodies
would be in their honor.

The wily druids had caught him by surprise too many times, despite
their apparent lack of defenders, supreme commander prepared for a
brutal battle. Reinforcements were summoned from the homefront… mages
riding the clouds in, and imps boiling straight from hell while storm
demons flew in by the dozens and deployed for battle behind the
shuffling mass of rotting undead. The last action had apparently been
the druids final, last ditch effort with a menagerie of animals, from
snakes and lions to magically altered iron boars exploding in huge
numbers from the besieged castle backed by dozens of mages. The
demons of Lanaka held, but there were many more casualties than
supreme commander would have liked and his troop count was too low to
be comfortable for whatever the druids had saved as a surprise, and
too much of Marverni’s army had routed. He hoped his screen of imps
would allow the mists of deception enough support to tie the enemy up
while the storm demons did the bloody work.

Dawn broke into the air and supreme commander prepared to order the
final assault, when a buzzing sound was heard across the battlefield.
With a crack a large fountain raining blood appeared between the Lanka
forces and the caslte and a voice was heard in everyone’s head
declaring the fools in Abysia would be waging war against Lanka, and
this fountain was their god. The fountain droned on about
demonstrating his power, but supreme commander was not known for his
patience, with the fountain still in mid sentence the attack order was
issued. Let that foolish pretender god learn what it is to appear in
front of a Lanka warparty ready for blood.

Scores of imps dove from the sky screeching their enchanted bloodlust
as dozens of lightning bolts crackled down blasting huge smoking
craters around the blood fountain, yet wherever the lighting struck
the fountain it channeled harmlessly into the ground. The foul thing
had planned well for a Lanka assault and was shielded from lightning.
The blood slaves and imps now surrounding it were not so fortunate
though and most were blasted to cinders in a second. We will likely
never know what the fountain planned to do, for bereft of blood slaves
it panicked and tried to route.

Blast after blast of lighting hammered down, pounding the fountain
deep into a crater but otherwise not effecting it. The longdead
shuffled up to the fountain, and were incinerated. The screaming ape
demons charged up to the fountain, and were incinerated. The
enchanted constructs from the magical mist floated up to the fountain,
and were incinerated. The storm demons were good at their job and
they relished the indiscriminate destruction.

Storm demon captain approached supreme commander. “My lord, the
lighting is ineffective. The fool thinks it is invincible to us. I
beg your leave to demonstrate to it that this lightning is but a toy
we play with and demons must always be feared.” The commander just
nodded, and seconds later dozens of storm demons flew forward with the
strength of bloodlust giving them terrifying strength. The blood
fountain was torn stone from stone and the stones themselves smashed
as the blood seeped into the blackened ground.

Supreme commander glanced at the sky with the sun now noticeably
higher. He would not have this, he would be sitting in the Marverni
throne room this very day. “Reform you dogs, we finish this now!”

The Lanka troops reformed, much lighter than before. There were
almost no longdead left after the storm demon’s carnage fest, but
sufficient blood slaves remained that supreme commander felt imps
would suffice. Just as he was about to give the order to attack the
casle, a horn sounded and Marverni’s relief troops charged from the
nearby woods lead by a towering mother of serpents. So, the ***** had
come out for the last stand, let the dance begin.

Imps boiled up from Inferno and flew to engage the Marverni troops who
greatly outnumbered the Lanka forces, but now it was time for the
storm demons to unleash their carnage on a more appropriate target.
As the Marverni troops charged over the still smoking craters, they
perhaps had a moments pause to wonder what had caused that damage. No
more than a moment however, they didn’t suffer long.

Their numbers were great though. A banelord clanked forward
ominously, yet his unholy armor proved no protection. Iron boars
found their altered state was no help. And the queen ***** herself,
decked out in all the magic finery Marverni could produce, lacked that
one little ring the blood fountain had held. With a thundering crash
the electrocuted titaness slammed to the ground and the forces of
Marverni were truly finished.

“NOW STORM THAT DAMN CASTLE”. Yet again the Lanka troops formed up
into yet smaller formations. The blood slaves were gone, there were
essentially no blockers left, supreme commander pinned his hope on the
fact the awesome might of the storm demons would be sufficient to
break whatever skeletal army held the Marverni castle. The sun now
stood at high noon, and the Lanka forces surged forward to finish
their task.

Yet something new appeared from the sky. Three somethings to be more
precise. The Abysian support flew in, two powerfully equipped
Anointed of Rhuax and a demonbred prophet of the damned fountain,
apparently hoping to finish off the softened up Lanka troops their
“god” had promised they would find in his wake. The storm demons
instantly brought the wrath of the skies down on them, yet to their
dismay realized they were equipped similarly to the blood fountain and
ignored the lightning as so much noise.

“Screw that, ALL UNITS FORM ON ME” supreme commander bellowed. “WE’LL
TEAR THEM APART WITH OUR CLAWS.” Hefting his bane blade above his
head he screamed “CHARGE!”. The ragged remnants of the Lanka army
surged forward to surround the Abysian heroes. Enchanted blades swung
and demons were slain, yet Lanka fielded heroes of their own.
Slowly….slowly the Abysians were overwhelmed. Bit by bit they bled
and then one by one they fell.

With the last light of dusk still in the sky the tiny remainder of the
Lanka army stormed the Marverni castle. Scarcely a dozen storm demons
remained and a handful of mages and heroes from the once mighty host.
A wiser commander would have waited to storm the castle, but supreme
commander would not be stayed. Caution, however, proved unnecessary
as there was but one old druid in the castle, apparently left as a
symbolic sacrifice to the Lankans. As supreme commander sat the
Marverni throne and the last druid was prepared for the feast, he
turned his eyes westward and contemplated a map of the Abysian lands.
Bah, Lankans were not meant for peace anyway.

Heh, how often does one army kill two pretenders, two prophets and
capture a capital all in the same turn? :)

[Unoptimized]

Wow. Hey, I'm really sorry, but from the looks of it I am unable to send or receive turns from this laptop, which seems unwilling to realize that the files I download exist. If you would mind extending the turn till monday that would be excellent. If not, then I will do my best to find a sub.

[Baalz]

Have you tried my suggestion? Moving my dominions folder to be c:\dominions3 solved the exact same problem I had using Vista....

[WingedDog]

Unoptimized

Try Baalz's suggestion. If it doesn't work - turn file is just a file and could be sent by e-mail from any computer, it is not that hard to find a computer connected to internet in 18th century... Wait, it was supposed to be 21st century! Wooooo Hooooo! My time machine works! Just you wait, Baalz, we'll see who's the smart one now!

[July 23, 8.48 PM, WingedDog's appartment]
WingedDog is about to submit his turn. Suddenly a cracking noise rings out from behind and ozone odour fills the room, WingedDog turns his head and sees sparklings and piles of smoke at the background. A silhouette of a man appears in the middle of the smoke and starts approaching him. When the mysterious person comes out of the smoke WingedDog is able see his face, and he founds it surprisingly familiar. The stranger breakes the silence: "I am WingedDog from the future, heed my warning. Do not teleport, I repeat, under any circumstances DO NOT TELEPORT your pretender to Lanka", - saying this words the stranger tuns around and heads toward the unusual machine could be seen now, when the smoke has finally layed down. Few moments later machine dissapeares with the same cracking sound it came.
Left alone confused WingedDog scaratches his head and removes his headphones. "Damn you, Metallica, if it wasn't for you I could have heard what was this person trying to tell me. Well I guess it's the mystery, which isn't destined to ever be solved... but this machine... the way it had appeared... it gives me the idea! I'll teleport my Fountain of Blood right into Lanka troops! Ha! I wish I coud see those surprised demon faces when it appeares right in front of them! I need to redo my turn..."

[Zeldor]

Ok, submitting unfinished turns is BAD idea :)

[Zeldor]

Hm... it looks like battle replay bug again though.

[Executor]

Oh god dammit! Those indie bastards! The moment I move troops away they take action!!!

Seems I forgot to do a few things...
Hmm, I guess 22MR is not good enough for the eye shield. Can someone lend me the chalice?

Those Abysian thugs are smokin'!!!

[Frozen Lama]

I hope the bug wasn't the battle with me. it was epic. :eek:

Hm... it looks like battle replay bug again though.

[Zeldor]

YEah, it was :) Nothing epic in my battle replay...

[Lingchih]

Pangaea is in need of death gems. We will trade 1 to 1 with Nature or earth. Trading terms may be negotiable. We have supplies of other gems as well.

PM me if interested.

[Calahan]

Consecutive stale number 4 is potentially coming up for Sauro. I'm guessing Unoptimized is still having laptop/Vista problems, but think a sub should be found in the meantime until Unoptimized returns (or until it clear isn't returning). Sauro look in pretty good shape, so be a shame to see the nation go to ruin due to the stales.

I'm happy to look for a sub if it helps.

[Zeldor]

Sauro is one of top nations, I'd say. We should at least postpone the game till it gets resolved.

[Lingchih]

I guess I will just say here that I have ended the NAP with Sauro, and will soon be at war with them. I tried to communicate this, but there was no one to answer me. I'm not jumping on a bandwagon to take out an unplaying player. I had this planned for quite some time.

That said, if a sub is found, I will rescind the declaration of war, and put it back to a 3 turn NAP>

[Baalz]

Adding a couple day delay for Calahan to try to find a sub.

[Jazzepi]

I guess I will just say here that I have ended the NAP with Sauro, and will soon be at war with them. I tried to communicate this, but there was no one to answer me. I'm not jumping on a bandwagon to take out an unplaying player. I had this planned for quite some time.

That said, if a sub is found, I will rescind the declaration of war, and put it back to a 3 turn NAP>

Noticably, Jomon has already gobbled up a good portion of Sauro. Just put him on AI so that he'll at least defend himself. It's better than four stales in a row.

Jazzepi

[Lingchih]

Ahh. So be it then. For my own good, I should go ahead and attack Sauro.

[Calahan]

Adding a couple day delay for Calahan to try to find a sub.
Many thanks Baalz, I will get onto looking for a sub as soon as possible.

[Unoptimized]

Hey guys, sorry for being out of contact. My computer has received a nasty virus (system security is the DEVIL), and I am reduced to posting in safe mode. I would offer to find a sub, but my internet access is sporatic at best. I'm really sorry about this, and incredibly frustrated at present. When this is all over, I'm excited to play in future games.

[Calahan]

That's bad news on the virus Unoptimized. Hope you get it sorted out quickly and as painlessly as possible.

@ All - Chris Pedersen has kindly offered to take a look at the Sauro position, and should be willing to take over control of Sauro if everything comes up ok with their health check. So hopefully this game will get back up and running properly soon, with one less staling nation in the mix. Thank you all for your patience during the recent sub-hunting delay.

[chrispedersen]

Hey guys, sorry for being out of contact. My computer has received a nasty virus (system security is the DEVIL), and I am reduced to posting in safe mode. I would offer to find a sub, but my internet access is sporatic at best. I'm really sorry about this, and incredibly frustrated at present. When this is all over, I'm excited to play in future games.


I'm an IT professional unoptimized, I've removed this virus 4 times in the last 3 days. Go to www.malwarebytes.org download their antivirus. You will need to run at least *3* scans to completely remove it.

Follow it up with a scan by spybot (search key word: spy bot search destroy. Merlin is the home thereof.

Both of these programs can run in safe mode.

These will take care of your problems.

[chrispedersen]

Hey all!

Ok.. I'm getting up to speed on the game ASAP. Would people be willing to bring me up to speed on their relationships with Sauromatia?

Also, how long have globals been up? Have the ER's known to be out in force?

Is anyone playing tag with Yomi? Would you like to? I understand Yomi has quite a few of my lands?

Thanks!

[chrispedersen]

Working on the turn. May I have a 2hr extension?

[Lingchih]

That might be kind of iffy. I don't think Baalz is online. You might just want to get it in.

[chrispedersen]

Drat, he was online when I asked. Well, I sent *something* in. Brilliant, it wasn't.

[Executor]

Good damn plagues in capitals...

Fomoria selling fire gems for any other kind if anyone's interested which I sort of doubt.

[chrispedersen]

Sauromatia has a need for:

Boots of Quickness
Blood Thorns
Bag of Wind
Air Helm

We can also profitably use vineshields.

We are also willing to buy gems for gold, and will pay *very* good rates.

[Baalz]

I'm out of town for the next week. I'll still be doing my turns but I'm not going to be online as much so I gave Calahan the admin password in case anybody needs a last minute extension and I'm unreachable.

[Frozen Lama]

Alas, it is a sad day for C'tis......

After a long hard struggle against the Atlantian tyrants, and many many dead lizard folk, in the end we were attacked by the greater evil- Ulm.

The lizards get one more epic showdown inside the citadel of C'tis, but the end has come.....

its been fun. sorry for being such a pain in the a** Zeldor

[Zeldor]

You can spam skellies in the gate for eternity :P

[chrispedersen]

Sauromatia will pay 20gp for Air gems.
Inquire within, please.

[WingedDog]

And now it is Yomi staling...

[Lingchih]

Yomi has staled two turns in a row, and three of the last four. Something needs to be done.

[Frozen Lama]

At least in the end i was able to cast Doom on Ulm's massive army........

[chrispedersen]

Yomi has staled two turns in a row, and three of the last four. Something needs to be done.

Considering that effectively Sauromatia staled 4, and was severely damaged by same, (ie., more than 1/2 of sauromatias territories occupied without a fight)...

I don't think game balance has been significantly altered. In fact Sauromatia still has a significant uphill fightjust to get back to where it was before the stales.

[Revolution]

At least in the end i was able to cast Doom on Ulm's massive army........

Awww I did not even notice that. Ptolemaios noooo!

[Calahan]

I have PM-ed 'Cicadian' to find out what the situation with regarding the recent Yomi stales. According to the 'User Activity' stamp, 'Cicadian' was last on these forums on 2nd July. Which seems to coincide with his last two stales.

Will let you all know if/when I hear something.

[Executor]

Fomoria declares war on Agartha.

[Calahan]

Fomoria declares war on Agartha.
I guess the one eyed giants were very attached to the Well of Misery then :)

[Executor]

Fomoria declares war on Agartha.
I guess the one eyed giants were very attached to the Well of Misery then :)

Very attached...:mad:

[Executor]

As much as I'd like to see TC getting even more powerful than before by killing the nations that stale again, maybe something should be done this time?

[Calahan]

As much as I'd like to see TC getting even more powerful than before by killing the nations that stale again, maybe something should be done this time?
I still haven't heard back from Cicadian, so as admin for the week, I'll give it until the morning (GMT time) to hear something back from Cicadian before taking any action.

Failing a responce though, the only real option is to look for a sub, which unfortunately will probably mean another 24 hour delay at least :( But that's certainly preferable to either further staling or AI setting in my books.

[Calahan]

Ok, still no word from the ruler of Yomi (and no user activity shown for Cicadian), so I guess the only course of action (other than allowing Yomi to keep staling) is to try and find a sub.

I will post a sub-request thread as soon as I can. But unless a sub comes forward more or less instantly, then the game will likely need to be delayed to find a sub, and/or for the sub to get settled into their new home.

Will keep you all posted on events and progress.

[Calahan]

@ All

I have delayed current hosting by 24 hours due to two delay requests I have had from players, and because there is still no sign of a sub for Yomi.

All the previous sub-finding delays (R'yleh, Sauro, Nief) were 48 hours, so while I hope the hunt for a Yomi sub won't need a delay that long, it would be consistent to tag on another 24 hour delay if Yomi are still owner-less at roughly this time tomorrow. But will keep you all updated on progress as always.

The curse of a Baalz admined game continues unabated.

[Lingchih]

Fear the Harpy. It is watching you. One or more is watching all of you, but you cannot see them. They just look like hawks. But they all report back to the sacred mother.

[Calahan]

And fear them even more if magic medallions start turning them into flying bombs.

[Calahan]

Ok everyone, still no luck with the Yomi sub-hunting :( even though the position is more attractive than most sub oppotunities IMO. I will likely be delaying the game by 24 hours for the final time (with regards looking for a sub for Yomi) so that the delay for the Yomi sub-hunting is/was the same (48 hours) as all the other delays that have been allowed for sub-hunting in this game. So apologies for the hold-up, but only fair I think to allow Yomi the same chance of finding a new owner as all the other nations got when their respective owners went AWOL.

But if a sub can't be found, then we have two options as I see it...

1) Turn Yomi AI
2) Let them stale one more turn, as that would give at least another 2 days for a sub to come forward, or for Cicadian to return. But if neither of these things happen after allowing them to stale again, then Yomi should be turned AI (without allowing any further delays for a sub to come forward).

Option #1 would of course be the normal course of action, but I'd personally really hate to lose one of the top 5 (probably) nations to the AI. And while letting them stale one more turn is never good, I don't think it will make that much difference if they are just going to end up under the control of the AI anyway. But it could make all the difference if allowing an extra stale allows a sub to be found, or Cicadian to return.

Would welcome any thoughts anyone has on this.

[chrispedersen]

Yomi got top 5 by taking a *bunch* of territories while sauro staled.

I don't believe that either sauromatia or yomi in the circumstances are actually top 5.

The usual rules for AI are 3 stales in row. Sauromatia is not a threat despite the stales; TC might be.

If you are concerned about Sauromatia getting too much advantage from a staling yomi - I'd be perfectly fine with setting Sauromatia to AI.

Although I don't know how you will deal with the question of TC.

My .02

[Revolution]

Ulm is looking to acquire death and/or water and/or nature gems. I have earth gems, fire gems and astral pearls to trade (and maybe some air gems).

[Calahan]

@ All - I'm going to give it roughly another 14 hours or so for a sub to come forward for Yomi, and if still no luck, then find someone to turn them AI a few hours before hosting.

@ Chris - I'm not worried about Sauro taking a lot of provinces back, I'm more worried about another good nation being quickly integrated by it's neighbour(s) without putting up a decent human-controlled fight. And turning Sauro AI would only exacerbate the problem by there being yet another good nation available for easy conquest.

Maybe someone should create a mod for a unit with a special exorcism power, and then use it on Baalz to remove the strange AWOL curse that seems to beset the players in the games he sets up.

[Zeldor]

There are way too many people going AI or disappearing in that game. It will never end anyway though, someone has hmm... 10 out of 50 VPs now?

Maybe someone that got killed recently or is close to that would be interesting? [and if someone is interested, I'm still willing to give away Atlantis to a caring person]

[Calahan]

@ All

rdonj has kindly agreed to read Yomi their last rights this turn by handing them over to the welcoming, yet completely incapable hands of the AI. So a heads up to those bordering Yomi to expect AI behaviour from this turn on.

[chrispedersen]

Well I don't mind the whatever on Yomi.. but I just got notified that the game is going to host now in 6 hours.. and I'm not going to be home by that time to get a turn in!

I thought we were delaying another 24 hours; my turn is highly dependent on whether yomi is real or ai, so I coudlnt' submit one. Can we please extend this 24 hours? Six hours to do a turn isn't kosher.. especially as I'm at work.

[rdonj]

Turn sent.

[Calahan]

@ Chris P

I agree that it's not ideal to plan a turn without knowing if your enemy is going to be AI or not. But a lot of players turn themselves AI without giving any notice at all, so it's usually best to plan to fight a human player regardless.

The game already got delayed a further 24 hours as I stated, as my last post mentioning a 24 hour delay is dated 9th July at 20:48, with the admin logs showing the game was delayed by 24 hours on 9th July at 20:50. So all the delays I have stated have happened, without any being mislaid. I think my posts regarding the delays for Yomi were clear at all times, but maybe they were only clear to me.

But if you are going to struggle to make the current deadline then I can delay the current turn for you so that you don't stale. Will you need a full 24 hour delay, or will 12-18 hours be ok? Since there is a danger that interest in this game might be starting to dip a bit, so would like to get it moving again if I can.

I will delay the game by 12 hours now, but if you need more time than that then please post and/or PM me, and I will add the rest in the morning when I wake up (GMT).

[Lingchih]

Thanks for subbing in as Host, Calahan. You've done a great job in what I imagine you thought would be an easy gig.

And yes, there have been far too many delays, for a game that people just seem to drop out of randomly. Perhaps the size of it is just overwhelming for some. I would say, in the future, if someone stales two times in a row, just set them to AI. It's the only way to keep this game going.

[Calahan]

Cheers Lingchih

Again I find it hard to disagree with you, this time on the notion of a strict "two stales and out" policy from here on in. Still a long road ahead for this game, and if we want to be finished by Christmas, then it would be useful to avoid further lengthy delays. Christmas 2010 that is!


@ All

I have not heard back from Chris yet saying whether or not the 12 hours I delayed the game by will be sufficient time for him to get a turn in before the hosting deadline. But I will keep a close eye on the deadline, and if it looks like Sauro are about to stale, I will add a few extra hours. Since Chris did originally ask for a 24 hour delay, and I only gave him half of it with a 12 hour delay in an attempt to get the game moving again. But Chris might well have needed the full 24 hours he asked for, but has not had chance yet to say whether or not just a 12 hour delay was ok or not.

[Calahan]

@ All

Still no word from Chris yet, and no sign of a Sauro turn, so have just added another 6 hours for the reasons indicated in the above post.

[Calahan]

Ok everyone, I've just heard from Chris, and it sounds like he is putting the finishing touches to his turn, so won't be needing a further extension.

So this is it folks. No more delays are planned, and the turn will be hosting today at 20:50 llamaserver time. So for the remaining few nations left who still have their turns outstanding, this is your final boarding call to get them in, as the flight is leaving in four and a half hours from now.

[Zeldor]

Huh, really, 6h notification with 48h timer? Some really stupid joke?

BTW, I am turning my nation AI in few turns. If someone wants, he can convince me to give him my stuff. But so far no one was interested in me helping in his victory.

[chrispedersen]

I'd be really interested in you helping me. No real chance of me winning, mind you = )

[Calahan]

I can't see how Sauro need any help against the AI Yomi. Especially since there's at least three other nations attacking them.

Pretty sure there are a lot more worthwhile causes out there for the gift-giving Zeldor-Claus and his potential Atlantis goodie-bag, than a nation tag-teaming the AI.

[vfb]

Helping someone else win is weird, anyway. Zeldor, if you want to smite down some great vengeance on the evil empires who have destroyed Atlantis's chances of victory, that's cool, but can't you do that yourself? Or did you just finish that, with the death of C'tis, and you've got no more reason to live?

[Jazzepi]

T'ien Chi can always use more water gems :D

Jazzepi

[Calahan]

Zero provinces left, and two stales in a row for Hinnom means I'll find someone to turn them AI. (unless Baalz wants to find someone)

[Calahan]

@ All

rdonj has again kindly agreed to help us all out by turning Hinnom AI. So many thanks to rdonj for this. So a heads up to those fighting Hinnom that they should be AI as of this turn.

And are there any objections to changing the email notifications to 12 hours instead of 6 hours? As per Zeldor's comment above.

[WingedDog]

Yomi, you cutie litle evil skynet, I think I love you! :heart:

[Calahan]

Congrats WingedDog on being the first player ever to successfully ally themselves with the AI.

[Baalz]

Haha, not only am I cursed with people dropping out and going AI, once they do they dump their gems into overwriting my global with...eyes of god? Really? That makes 2 globals to be overwritten, lets see who can overwrite astral corruption.

[Executor]

Might I suggest Armageddon too? It combines wonderfully with Astral Corruption.

[WingedDog]

Congrats WingedDog on being the first player ever to successfully ally themselves with the AI.

Ha, I always knew a propper conversation is a key to everything you desire in this life!

Listen, Yomi, what we need to do next is 11001010101110000110010101010011000101010101001010 10010101001010101010111000110000010101110001100010 10100010110100101101010001011100001010101001110100 10010100111110001010100100010101110010010100010001 0101101000111010. Got it? Don't brig me down!

[WingedDog]

I'm not quiet sure who's currantly in charge of this game, Baalz or Calahan, so I'd just write in thread.
I'm not sure I have time for dominions this evening, could there please be a 24 hours delay?

[Calahan]

I'm in charge during daylight hours, with Baalz taking over when it gets dark. As that's when he's at his most evil.
Never feed Baalz after midnight either. Since that would be very bad :D


Game delayed 24 hours as requested.

[WingedDog]

Can there please be another 12 hours of delay, as 'Art of War' turned to be a sub frenzy for me this days? All my free time was spend for managing subs there.

[Calahan]

@WingedDog - No Prob.

[Baalz]

I'm in charge during daylight hours, with Baalz taking over when it gets dark. As that's when he's at his most evil.
Never feed Baalz after midnight either. Since that would be very bad :D

And never get Baalz wet, unless you want two Baalz.

[Calahan]

I'm in charge during daylight hours, with Baalz taking over when it gets dark. As that's when he's at his most evil.
Never feed Baalz after midnight either. Since that would be very bad :D

And never get Baalz wet, unless you want two Baalz.
Yes, if you check the label on Baalz it quite clearly states "Dry Clean Only"!

[chrispedersen]

Can you give a heads up in the forum if you are going to delay the game?

I'm glad we accomodated someone's schedule - but I *didn't* do some things this morning in order to get the turn in a timely fashion. So, notice helps everyone plan their schedules

Thanks !

[Calahan]

Can you give a heads up in the forum if you are going to delay the game?

I'm glad we accomodated someone's schedule - but I *didn't* do some things this morning in order to get the turn in a timely fashion. So, notice helps everyone plan their schedules

Thanks !
@ Chris

???? I'm sorry you didn't get to do some of the things you intended, but I am struggling to understand the point you are making here. What delay didn't get announced? And how is it possible to announce a delay before a player even asks for it?
I'm not quiet sure who's currantly in charge of this game, Baalz or Calahan, so I'd just write in thread.
I'm not sure I have time for dominions this evening, could there please be a 24 hours delay?
The above is post #477, asking for a 24 hour delay, to which I replied.....
I'm in charge during daylight hours, with Baalz taking over when it gets dark. As that's when he's at his most evil.
Never feed Baalz after midnight either. Since that would be very bad :D

Game delayed 24 hours as requested.
The above is post #478, which clearly states the game has been delayed 24 hours.
Can there please be another 12 hours of delay, as 'Art of War' turned to be a sub frenzy for me this days? All my free time was spend for managing subs there.
The above is post #479, asking for a further 12 hour delay, to which I reply.....
@WingedDog - No Prob.
The above is post #480. Maybe I should have been clearly and said "No problem with the 12 hour delay". I apologise if I wasn't clear enough with just my "@WingedDog - No Prob." responce.


It's always nice to know about delays in advance, but that's a bit difficult to do if the player requesting a delay doesn't even know he/she needs a delay until they actually do. So I don't know how anyone can expect to be given 'notice' on such delays like you requested Chris. I'm not clairvoyant sadly :(

[chrispedersen]

My fault completely!

[Calahan]

My fault completely!
No worries :)

[Zeldor]

Can I get 24h extension? Or 36? I just got notification about new turn, but I didn't even get turn 52, so I was sure we are still on 51. In 12h all I can do is set my nation AI.

[Executor]

Yeah, I think we should delay the game (if it can be done at this point with Llama fixing the server) as the turns can't get in.
I've been trying to send turns last half hour and I can't wait any longer, it's too late, sleepy time.

[Calahan]

@ Zeldor - I've added 24 hours for you (I hope, what with the llamaserver change over and everything). Post if you need the extra 12 hours though.

@ All - Several people seem to be experiencing problems with the llamaserver currently not accepting .2h files for any of their games. Guessing this is entirely due to the llamaserver being switched to a sparkly new server (probably as I type), but hopefully, with the 24 hour delay, the llamaserver will be back to normal and accepting turn files before the turn hosts on Wednesday morning (llamaserver time)

Although @ All - please report if you are still having problems in say twelve or more hours time.

[Zeldor]

Thanks, I was wondering why the delay on turn 51... and there was no delay.

[WingedDog]

Could there be an another delay of 24 hours? There was a small hurricane yesterday and I was unable to get home.
Sorry for inconvenience.

[Burnsaber]

I'm really sorry for the inconvenience, but I'm going AI. I really just can't stand the boredom anymore. I know it's a di*k move, especially in this game where the game especially suffers from this behaviour, but damn....



I was really hyped about this game you know? I was really looking forward to write some nice AAR's and roleplaying. But EA Oceania? Seriously? In the start I took the idea with humor, "I mean, they can't be that bad, right?". But damn.. Oceania is simply dull. It has dull gameplay and dull thematics. Triton Kings from the freaking little mermaid disney flick? WTF?

God knows I tried writing AAR's, but the only concept I had was the Triton nobles and their superiority (which can be seen statwise and is hinted in the descriptions). But I really don't want to write about racial superioity (not even in this context), you know, because of what that wanna-be artist with stupid moustache did some years ago.

And the gameplay.. Ugh.. Don't even get me started on this. I did *lots* of fetishes, I did lots of clams and behold! It was dull! The final nail in my coffin was when my prented got feebleminded by a lucky mind blast. It just took me 30 turns to realize that I'm basically dead. You know what kind of cool late-game stuff you can with Oceania nationals? Yeah, not lots. I did empower myself to astral, but meh, I was never able to really benefit from it.

I just finally got sick of it. I'm sick of moving fetishes around. I'm sick of spending my hammer-time to forge Amulets of Fish. I'm sick of the fact that they eat absolutely crucial misc slots from my only battlefield mages. I'm sick of desperately hoping good paths on my Spectres. I'm sick of the fact that I wasn't able to summon my first Lamia Queen until 3 turns ago. I'm sick of hoping that helheim would come underwater to kick my *** and relieve me from playing. I'm sick of being hit by all nice late-game stuff by Helheim and wishing that I had access to those. I'm sick of doing half-assed turns because I just couldn't care less of this half-finished nation that is somehow in the vanilla roster.

I considered trying to find a sub, but that would a total di*k move. The nation is doomed. But instead of going out with a bang, it's withering away, a slow, painful & dull death.



I'm really sorry for leaving this game like this. I really am. But I just can't stand it anymore.

But I learned something. Never, ever join a EA game wiht random nations. There just is no way I'm going to play vanilla EA Oceania ever again.

[Executor]

Sigh
You wouldn't happen to be next to TC now would you...

[Burnsaber]

Sigh
You wouldn't happen to be next to TC now would you...

Yeah, I have some provinces next to him. Don't assume that there is much of fight thought. Just some claymen (the best use of W4E1 Triton Kings, sadly) and navigators.

[vfb]

Sadly, Caelum is not capable of putting up much of a fight against the mages of Fomoria either, whose wicked conjurations of multitudes of Ashen Angels and Earth Elementals surprised our doomed commanders this month.

Our fine feathered fighting forces have had a long slog against the valiant warriors of Helheim and their in-laws, with many glorious deaths on the field of battle for both sides. But we will do what we can with the scraggly remnants of our army to keep Fomoria from getting totally bored out of their skulls.

-- Kinaesthesia of Caelum

[Burnsaber]

Sadly, Caelum is not capable of putting up much of a fight against the mages of Fomoria either, whose wicked conjurations of multitudes of Ashen Angels and Earth Elementals surprised our doomed commanders this month.

-- Kinaesthesia of Caelum

Heck yeah. I'd continue fighting if I had some valiant last stands to do. Those are actually fun. But it will take decades for anyone to actually assault my underwater provinces, that's one of the reasons why I see my postion as so dull. Even once I lose my coasts to Helheim, he'll probably stop there and leave me rot in the ocean. I tried to bate Agartha into attacking me, but to no avail, since he got distracted by Fomoria.

[Executor]

I'm willing to make a truce with Agartha if he'll fight you and there for keep you in the game.

Oh, and that's very kind of you vfb. :)

[Baalz]

Well, obviously annoying but nobody could reasonably expect you to stick it out if you're that miserable. Thanks for playing as long as you did and no worries (at least from me) about bailing.

[Burnsaber]

Well, obviously annoying but nobody could reasonably expect you to stick it out if you're that miserable. Thanks for playing as long as you did and no worries (at least from me) about bailing.

Thanks, that means a lot for me. In this game, several things just accumulated on me to create a very unusual binge. The lack of indie mages and the sudden loss of pretender paths + unfortunate choice of neighbours. (there wasn't anyway I could have fought against TC in the early/mid game, those Warriors of the Five Elemets just are a counter to all of the tricks I could do). It was nice of Jazzepi to humor me by signing a NAP.

But, luckily it wasn't all for naught. This game gave me inspiration to do my Underwater-mod, parts of which are going into the next CBM. I'm just the kind of guy who can't stand to see something broken when it can be easily fixed. But my underwater rant (trust me, I have a lenghty one) isn't really for this thread.

[Jazzepi]

TC, the nation who only conquers the AI. I actually did rush Arco in the very beginning and we had a nice fight, but that's been pretty much it this game. :(

Jazzepi