Gryphin and Growltigga Thread [Archive]

Growltigga

January 30th, 2002, 11:26 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
Boy, I leave you three by yourselves for several hours, and come back and find you have your own thread http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif <hr></blockquote>

Yeah right Mac, doesn't take you long to get your tuppence worth on it does it now. I suppose it is because you have so much time on your hands at your age

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Tesco, I think you have partaken too much of your own sauce to let these two loose on their own thread,,,,who knows the long or short topics, (heh,heh,BMT), these two will come up with. Not like us more mature, sensible ones out here who are interested in the furtherance of one's mind thru meditation and scientific knowledge into the mysteries of the universe. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif [/QB]<hr></blockquote>

Dont blame me Mac for anything, I didn't start the laager conversation, didn't really start the recipies off either - it is not my fault that some people on this thread are sexually adventurous misanthropic gourmands who also happen to enjoy galactic domination

TS - good idea to probably restrict us to this thread - this way I dont ruin the ether for the serious SEIV people out there by interfering with their Posts. One day, I may even have played this game enough to have something relevant to say

PS bad timing, I am off to Arizona in 9 hours

Growltigga

January 30th, 2002, 12:45 PM

""PS. unreliable informants report the Gryphin hasn't been on the forum as much because he has been practicing, getting ready for your international challenge ""

Oh dear oh dear, what does it say about the american psyche that they always feel they need to practice like mad and try and win the game - he will be arguing with the umpires and cheering when he has won next - bloody bad show that's all I can say

Guffin, you can rest assurred that everything posted here reflect my tactics - I am happy to give you a complete and accurate synopsis of my gamestyle and design preferences if you wish

PS Mac wants to know how many dates you have - I have told him we are talking about sheep here - he doesn't believe that you are a shepherd in real life http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gryphin

January 30th, 2002, 03:54 PM

First sheep cannot read or access the web.
Second, I tend to date 2 or so human females and will do so untill i find one to settle down with.
Third: I meet with "triumph and dissaster", and "treat those two imposters just the same". I am and expect to prove, I am magnanimous in victory. Someday I will get to show that I am humble in defeat.
Fourth: See my "SIG Line". It is my nature to improve the probibilty of an outcome in my favor.
Fith: I play as much as I do because I enjoy it.

Happy landings

Growltigga

January 30th, 2002, 04:06 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Growltigga and I could not agree on a name. I wanted long and descriptive. He wanted short and silly.<hr></blockquote>

Hang on a second, I have just read this. If I recall Guffin, you wanted some arty daft sounding verbose title such as 'A short aristotelian syllogistic vignette on human interaction from a dydactic and hegelian viewpoint'

I said this was 'pants' and suggested 'Idiots abroad' which is after all, what you and Mac are to me and what I am to you. PS TS is not an foreign idiot, his cousin is far too pretty for him to be called that

Now thankfully, TS has cut across the ahem chaff and has solved that problem!

That being said, I do feel a bit pompous having my own thread - I presume this is a polite way for the other forum particpants t basically get me to shut up and stop bothering them

Growltigga

January 30th, 2002, 04:10 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
First sheep cannot read or access the web.
Second, I tend to date 2 or so human females and will do so untill i find one to settle down with.
Third: I meet with "triumph and dissaster", and "treat those two imposters just the same". I am and expect to prove, I am magnanimous in victory. Someday I will get to show that I am humble in defeat.
Fourth: See my "SIG Line". It is my nature to improve the probibilty of an outcome in my favor.
Fith: I play as much as I do because I enjoy it.

Happy landings<hr></blockquote>

Guffin,
First, BAAAAAAAA
Second, do they each know about the other? it ay just be American girls but if I tried that with an English lass, my happy sacks would end up catapulted into the vicinity of my ears
Third, dont quote Kipling at me my man!
Fourth, that is typical American behaviour
Fifth, can be too busy with those dates then can you!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

mac5732

January 30th, 2002, 05:23 PM

GT, your just jealous of the "Twinkle" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Will you be able to indulge upon our discussions during your trip or will withdrawal set in?

If not, then upon your return, we shall endeaver to formulate the transgressions of any fruits of our labors and enlighten your psyche to bring you up to date in response of new and old mysteries that may or may not be found, researched, discussed, etc. during your absence. (also any new good recipes that are posted, ahhhh)

Have a safe trip http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

January 30th, 2002, 05:26 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
GT, your just jealous of the "Twinkle" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <hr></blockquote>

careful mate, the 'twinkle' may only work on Mrs Mac and you would not be so chuffed if I started to develop an unnatural interest that way no would you

Will you be able to indulge upon our discussions during your trip or will withdrawal set in?

Nope, will not be able to join in and then I am in Madrid about 4 seconds after I get back so you probably wont hear from me for a couple of weeks you lucky people

If not, then upon your return, we shall endeaver to formulate the transgressions of any fruits of our labors and enlighten your psyche to bring you up to date in response of new and old mysteries that may or may not be found, researched, discussed, etc. during your absence. (also any new good recipes that are posted, ahhhh)
Have a safe trip http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [/QUOTE]

Mac, stop sniffing your odour eaters - it is affecting your brain

Growltigga

January 30th, 2002, 07:19 PM

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <cue bad singing> I'm leaving, on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again <silence bad singing> http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I've got my stetson - on
I've got my boots - dusty
I've got my horse - called Trigger, not Tigga
I've got my chaps on - borrowed from leather man in YMCA

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif see y'all round in a couple of weeks. I is now off to check out the sun in Arizona (-19C in Flagstaff on the website, sun? there is no sun?)

Only the Growltigga would go to the Grand Canyon in February!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

tesco samoa

January 30th, 2002, 07:20 PM

Umm.. Yea....

But yep this thread is for you 2 to carry on your banter.

P.S.

I am glad I am not a foreign idiot. Thank you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Hope you have a good time in AZ.

Growltigga

January 30th, 2002, 07:23 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
But yep this thread is for you 2 to carry on your banter.<hr></blockquote>

In other words, you are trying to say that we were buggering up the forum for the serious players out there

If so, APOLOGIES TO YOU ALL

mac5732

January 30th, 2002, 07:36 PM

Enjoy the Canyon, it has no rails along the rim paths, watch for the ice, enjoy the sun, we're under a storm warning here, freezing rain storm coming in, yuk,

TS, I don't know why you are exempt just because of your cousin http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif Did you send the Tigga some sauce without our being told, hmmmm, sounds fishy to me.

Hey Gryphin, what do you think of Tesco being exempt from the rest of us poor souls?

PS. I'm glad my computer doesn't have sound, I don't think the Growltigga will be cutting any records anythime soon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

January 30th, 2002, 07:42 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
Enjoy the Canyon, it has no rails along the rim paths, watch for the ice, enjoy the sun, we're under a storm warning here, freezing rain storm coming in, yuk

Many thanks Mac, I am quite worried about the weather, Phoenix should be fine but heading north means a mile in altitude - it quite possibly be a non-starter in which case San Diego here I come

TS, I don't know why you are exempt just because of your cousin http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif Did you send the Tigga some sauce without our being told, hmmmm, sounds fishy to me.

Mac, no sauce, Tesco's cousin is an English actress called Helen Baxendale - grrrrrr grrrrrr grrrrr - Gryphin would pay good money to circle the wagons that way I can tell you

Hey Gryphin, what do you think of Tesco being exempt from the rest of us poor souls?

same as normal probably

PS. I'm glad my computer doesn't have sound, I don't think the Growltigga will be cutting any records anythime soon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif <hr></blockquote>

Have already 'cut' a couple of records but I am known for my guitar playing abilities rather than my vocal technique!!

Mac, don't you think Tesco's cunning plan to corral us over in this thread is hurtful - I feel wounded and sad http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Gryphin

January 30th, 2002, 08:27 PM

I worked at the Grand Canyon from July 1978 May 1978. The Canyon is beautiful in winder. Make sure you dress for the cold.

I like having a place we can post without interfearing in other threads. Every one is welcome to post here. I would like feed back from the rest of the regulars as to their view of this.

Yes, all of my dates know I play the field. I make that clear within the first hour of meeting them.

I will quote whomever I like. Please ckeck my web page under "Favorite Poems". I have enjoyed Kipling since I read "The Jungle Bood" in the 5th grade.

I missed something in the Posts and don't follow the refferance to tesco being "exempt".

I have about 3 to 4 dates a month. I play SE IV about 2 to 6 hours a night.

mac5732

January 30th, 2002, 09:27 PM

Gryphin, check the post at time 1402 on this site for Tesco exemption, talk about nepotism...shhhheeese, just because he has a fox for a cousin, and she's not even on this forum,

Growltigga, yaa, its a little sad, but I can understand and can relate to it, after all, we do have a very slight tendancy to get carried away sometimes, but I understand and have no hard feelings. Besides, this way everyone can take part in our discussions and banter without taking away from serious Posts..In fact, a ways back someone mentioned a general discussion thread, and I thought you mentioned a gryphin-growltigga thread during the International Challenge discussion, what better place then here.. But we can still comment in the other Posts, just adjust to keeping it at a lower level so as not to intrude on the serious topics. I really believe most enjoyed it and that we sometimes just got to carried away, taking away from the actual topic under discussion to the point where everyone forgot what was originally being discussed in the first place. I do not believe any maliciousness is or was intended by anyone, those on this forum are not that way. So perk up, its not everyone who gets their own thread, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

just some ideas mac

DirectorTsaarx

January 30th, 2002, 10:30 PM

Not only do we Americans like to practice endlessly, sometimes that practice makes us late showing up for the wars (cf. 1916 and 1941) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

As for Gryphin getting away with dating multiple women at the same time, I'm impressed. I haven't tried that since high school. And it didn't work well there either. Of course, since he claims to be up front about it, his dates are probably seeing multiple men as well; I hope everyone is playing it "safe" when they circle the wagons http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Finally, I had considered suggesting moving the male posturing to it's own thread, not because it detracted from the serious topics but because I couldn't remember which thread it was in! Now that it's named properly, I can find it again...

mac5732

January 30th, 2002, 10:50 PM

Director Tsaarx, welcome to the G&G thread, In regards to the Gryphin, I know what you mean, dating one was rough, but more then one at the same time?? whew, how does he keep the names straiaght, let alone find the time.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif One must wonder about his comments back in the beginning about the Gryphin Position (circle the wagons), I wonder, was it really a discussion on the internet as stated, or... manifested in the actual discovery itself through personal research.. hmmmmm http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac

Gryphin

January 30th, 2002, 11:13 PM

DirectorTsaarx,
Thanks for clearing that up. I did notice the "smiley" at the end so I figured it was a good natured poke. Still, it was valid. What I found most ironic is that as I replyed to your post, tesco was creating this thread.

You are correct on all accounts. Except for Kasserine Pass, (and a few other "trial by fire" incedents), we may show up late, but we show up trained and fully equipped as well.

Dating multible women does have tough moments. Yes they do see others. Sometimes I end up witn no dates on a weekend, *shrug*, My problem.

As for the Gryphin Position, maybe I can get one of my dates to post here to help explain it.

tesco samoa

January 31st, 2002, 12:42 AM

Nah I just figured that this thread will be one of those things you can turn to when your stuck in a 4 hour meeting for a good laugh.

And it has already met that.

No harm ment. If there was Sorry.

Gryphin

January 31st, 2002, 02:11 AM

tesco, you can surf the web while you are in a meeting? where do I sign up.
Not sure what you are appologising for. We are on on the same page here, (or is tht in the same thread).

mac5732

January 31st, 2002, 07:54 PM

Tesco, its fine, also I am going to send you an e-mail, I just havn't gotten around to it on your sauce, I have to share my computer with my 2 sons and my time gets limited when I'm home. I'm with Gryphin, how do you surf during a meeting? tell us your secret.

Gryphin, Maybe its time you settled down with one?Cheaper... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

I wonder if the Growltigga really went to wedding in AZ, or if that was an excuse so he could get some practice in before the big match.

just some ideas mac

Gryphin

January 31st, 2002, 09:00 PM

mac, I wish I could settle down.
Growtigga practicing? Na, he doesn't need to. All he needs is to understand the game mechanics and his lawers mind will asorb the rest. With a capacity to become a solicitor, be very creative, and be funny, he is going to be very tough to beat. < wry grin >. None the less, I do intend to use the burned out hulks of his space ships to build a giant sculpture in memoriam to his vanquished race. Then again, he might use my hulks to make tombstones.

mac5732

January 31st, 2002, 10:10 PM

really looking foreward to the big "international showdown" just be sure to keep us all posted with updates.

The old saying goes, "You'll find it when you least expect it" or something like that, sooo, don't give up, you never know who may be around that cornor... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

just some ideas mac

tesco samoa

February 2nd, 2002, 12:49 AM

Hey Mac get the kids working.... and then they can get there own machine.

Saxon

February 2nd, 2002, 08:19 AM

Gee, you two are too busy bantering and missed the important point. Tesco, tell us more about your cousin! And since you are posting from Canada, is she in BC?

Gryphin

February 2nd, 2002, 03:54 PM

Saxon, it is a matter of priortys, I pick the realty of multible dates over the fantacy of the unavailable. Tigga Bashing is easily achievable, tescos cousin is not.

tesco samoa

February 2nd, 2002, 04:48 PM

As I said before I have never met her. But she is a British Soap queen or something and us N.A. saw her on Friends as Rosses second wife.

The English woman.

The only reason I know this is that My father and Mothers side keep extensive family history.

(A little excessive on my mothers side)

mac5732

February 3rd, 2002, 07:08 AM

TS, I remember the episode but don't remember what she looks like, have to watch the re-runs somemore, other then that the only English Actress that made an impression was Elizabeth Hurly, now there's a fox for ya, drooooolll http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Yep, I've been trying to get a good deal on a PC for my oldest, but with 3 kids in college, not easy, also my%^$#$$ remodling project is still not over and cost me more then planned. He has an old 133 but its pretty well shot, daughter away at school has her own so don't have to worry, but the 2 boys go to college locally so they are always on it, that's one of the reasons I don't play on line or PBW,or do modding, tiiimmme restraints, HOWEVER, seeing that I'm a loving father, and grown adult, I have already told them in very humble, calm, relaxed terms, that when The Gryphin and The Growltigga are done disecting each other in their challenge, that we are going to be starting a game and that other then school work, THEIR time will be reduced..After all its my PC not theirs....

Gryphin, we'll all keep an eye out, (us feeble ones here will even keep 2 eyes out) and see if we can find you something out there, maybe teach you how to use the "Twinkle" in return for the "Gryphin Position" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif The tigga will be jealous....ha, ha

TS, ck your pvt mail

just some ideas mac

Gryphin

February 4th, 2002, 03:18 AM

mac, oh, there is a "w" in that word, ok, it's a deal, (of course, you may not want to know about the GP), but, it is your call. As for finding someone for me, how close to the bottom of the barrel are you willing to go?
Tigga jealous? First he will have to understand.
(not nice of me to pick on him when he is gone), But it is fun.

Gryphin

February 4th, 2002, 09:32 PM

Boy, I hope GrowTigga does not see my post in the

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=23&t=004502

Thread

mac5732

February 4th, 2002, 09:41 PM

Gryphin, read you post, all I can say is you now better come up with a defense for it if the Growltigga uses it against you, tsk, tsk, not like you giving some of your strategy away like this, hmmmmmmm, interesting to say the least,

I'm not with it today after watching that fiasco of a superbowl, The Rams failed to show up for the game... I already goofed up 1 post already today http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif ,

On top of that I just got off the phone with my one contractor on my kitchen, he didn't like the deductions I made on his final bill, thinks I'm trying to stiff him after all the grief and $^^$^&&** he caused me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

just some ideas mac

ps. make that 2 Posts sigh

maybe I should look into taking some Geritol, they say the mind is the first thing to goooo

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tesco samoa

February 5th, 2002, 03:08 AM

Don't tell any one but I am a Pats fan.

The other team is Green Bay...

Yea that was a hard superbowl a couple of years ago.

But joy joy.

And May 31st is so close.

I already have most of June off. Cannot wait.

P.S.

I think your ships staying smaller stragety works really well with your lack of # of ships.

Do keep that stragety going for the game.

mac5732

February 5th, 2002, 05:45 PM

I'm not really a Rams fan, I'm a Browns fan and I just don't care for Bellichick (spelled wrong)
We had him for a coach and he was a bum.., Nothing against the Pats TS, happy they won, I just expected a better game out of the Rams after the year they had.. At least it wasn't a blow out like the majority of them have been in the pas

Strategy is a mind game and tactics is the carrying out the deviousness for what the mind has concocted. Therefore, you are right Oh Gryphin, Will he or will he not believe it? Doesn't hurt to put doubt into ones conscious thought. heh, heh ohh the how one's sub conscious mind works.... dastardly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

One must watch the aspects of partying into the late hours, all kinds of mischief may transpose itself on the unwary (or those slightly under the weather due to the liberation of intoxicating stimulants) (Besides, you never know who or what you may wake up with the next morning, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ha, ha Hope you enjoyed yourself

just some ideas Mac http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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tesco samoa

February 6th, 2002, 03:21 PM

Hey Mac I got your address and will let you know on Thursday whats up with the sauce.

Take Care

mac5732

February 6th, 2002, 08:37 PM

TS, glad you got it, looking foreward to it.'

Now whats this about you and your bathroom and a life without SE4? Now I don't want to intrude upon something that sounds strange, but HEY, what the heck, is this some type of research that the rest of us should know about, there in that thar bathroom? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

just some ideas mac

tesco samoa

February 7th, 2002, 12:18 AM

were talking ren-o-vations

Complete gut and build.

And the life is well you know the stuff away from the computer....

I have to plan my trip for the spring

Lee's retreat.

But I am not allowed to go until the bathroom and tv room are done.

mac5732

February 7th, 2002, 06:09 PM

OOOHHHH-K, ren-o-vations huh, been there, still doing it, same, can't go or do much until done, now the wife wants contractor to tear out most of the kitchen because the Island is crooked. UGH...
don't blame her, but going to start big war with him, as he will have to have a new granite counter top cut because of the angles.$$$ and part of the floor around the island cabnits, etc.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif , he didn't do it right, this in addition to arguing with floor contractor on his workers screw up and final payment. I wish we never started this project http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Where you going for Lee Retreat? Are you Civil War Buff? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I tried looking for the Demo Gold on Shrapnel Site and couldn't find it, also appears sever having trouble again. anywhere else to get the demo ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

just some ideas mac

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Growltigga

February 11th, 2002, 12:46 PM

Well, I am back from Arizona, landed back in UK on Friday morning and was sent to Boston by work Friday afternoon, just got back - I am buggered

AZ - interesting place - much better than I expected - Superbowl game was pants

what have I missed?

Am off to Madrid tomorrow for a week combining both work and pleasure (especially if I get to meet up with Ines Sastre - turbo grrrrrrrr)

From a brief review of this thread, all I can say is:

Tesco, you really could try and organise a mass Baxendale family reunion

Mac, watch your pace maker my boy - I dont know what geritol is, is it like anusol?

Guff - you practice SEIV 2 to 6 hours a night!!!!?? I reckon I have played it for a total of 20 hours all in - this international sesh is going to a cakewalk from your side - cunning legal minds only allow extracting blood from stones rather than anything else

Growltigga

February 11th, 2002, 03:49 PM

Guffin, check your private Messages back - the truth will be revealed

Gryphin

February 11th, 2002, 03:56 PM

Any day I don't learn something is a bad day. I had no idea what the "drift" you passed me ment. I wonder how many of us Americans do.
Please note: I do not own a telivision and if I did, I would not watch it.
Any one else able to catch Tigs "drift"?

Growltigga

February 11th, 2002, 04:01 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
I do not own a telivision and if I did, I would not watch it.
<hr></blockquote>

Hmmm, this makes me wonder further, as you don't own a television, I would assume that means you don't own a video recorder therefore, "circling the wagons" is something of YOUR OWN INVENTION and not learned off some spurious video produced in the San Fernando valley!!

Cue Mac dropping his tube of anusol and having a mild cardiac!
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gryphin

February 11th, 2002, 04:32 PM

Er: I here by refuse to interpret your comment. I will state for the record that I belive I first saw the referance in my teen years watching TV or some movie. I have a superb command of the American language and was able to derive the meaning of the phrase when seen in the context that first started this subject. I must also note that the "Gryphin Position" is indeed one of my own design. My dates can confirm that for you. One might even share a decription if you like.

Growltigga

February 11th, 2002, 04:39 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
I have a superb command of the American language ....... One might even share a decription if you like.<hr></blockquote>

First, thank god you are not calling it English - hurrah for that

Secondly, sure, get your date to post pictures too (provided that they are cute and that as little of you as possible are in said pictures and especially no sign of the custer hat is in there) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

mac5732

February 11th, 2002, 04:50 PM

The truth is finaly out, The "Gryphin Position" WAS an experimental scientific research as most of us thought, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Aaahhhh Gryphin, I for one, in the furtherance of science of course, wouldn't mind one of your dates describing the subject in question. However, I don't know if the Moderators would be able to handle the heat it might generate. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Hi GT, good to have ya back, glad you enjoyed your trip http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geritol is like an elixer for those past the age of 30, heh, heh, gives you that extra get up and go....

Gryphin, if you don't own or watch TV, this would explain all the time you have for your extra curricular activities http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

TS, if you have that reunion please let us know, we just might show up to explain the workings and manifestations of SE4 to some of your more notable cousins......

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

February 11th, 2002, 04:56 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mac5732:
[QB]The truth is finaly out, The "Gryphin Position" WAS an experimental scientific research as most of us thought, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif [QUOTE]

Yeah, wasn't it related to that saucer crash in Roswell, New Mexico

[QUOTE] Aaahhhh Gryphin, I for one, in the furtherance of science of course, wouldn't mind one of your dates describing the subject in question. However, I don't know if the Moderators would be able to handle the heat it might generate. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif [QUOTE]

Mac, you are a dirty old man

[QUOTE] Hi GT, good to have ya back, glad you enjoyed your trip http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [QUOTE]

I did and I met some Americans who told me never to go to Ohio unless I really was very bored with life

[QUOTE] Geritol is like an elixer for those past the age of 30, heh, heh, gives you that extra get up and go....[QUOTE]

Trust you to partake of modern pharmaceuticals - I get the same thing out of a decent chardonnay

[QUOTE] Gryphin, if you don't own or watch TV, this would explain all the time you have for your extra curricular activities http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif [QUOTE]

I agree

[QUOTE] TS, if you have that reunion please let us know, we just might show up to explain the workings and manifestations of SE4 to some of your more notable cousins......[QUOTE]

You are a dirty old man Mac

mac5732

February 11th, 2002, 06:51 PM

Ohio is not for the faint of heart http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif At least its not BOSTON http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

In regards to "Dirty Old Man", sigh, someone must contemplate upon the virtues of the higher recesses of one's mind or degress to the point of failing to appreciate what science may "uncover" within the universe to advance knowledge within
the various realms of just "what is possible and that which is not", http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

(your just jealous of my stimulating of the upper reaches of my mind to enjoy what one experiences in life and to indulge within the fantasical reaches of "what could be" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

February 11th, 2002, 07:36 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mac5732:
[QB]Ohio is not for the faint of heart http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif At least its not BOSTON http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [QB]

Wow, I will let you and Guffin discuss that one mano et mano - the hand shandy shufflers I spoke to said that Ohio was not for the faint of breath or those with any olfactory ability - their words not mine I might add

[QB] In regards to "Dirty Old Man", sigh, someone must contemplate upon the virtues of the higher recesses of one's mind or degress to the point of failing to appreciate what science may "uncover" within the universe to advance knowledge within
the various realms of just "what is possible and that which is not", http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif [QB]

Errrr, ground control to planet Mac, come in planet Mac

[QB](your just jealous of my stimulating of the upper reaches of my mind to enjoy what one experiences in life and to indulge within the fantasical reaches of "what could be" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )[QB]

Mac, dont say such things, the thought that anything said on this forum stimulates you is quite horrible - but I suppose at your age you need all the stimulation you can get - arn't tea dances only held once a week??

just some ridulously perverted ideas mac

Gryphin

February 11th, 2002, 07:49 PM

What mac says is true. The air is cleaner but it does take a hearty person to live here. You must be someone of great moralle fiber and astounding intellect. Yes, Boston is not for the faint of heart. I am surprised Tig survived here for a weekend.

mac5732

February 11th, 2002, 08:11 PM

Aahhh, Ohio, what can I say, for example, In Cleveland, the great lower Harbor area was built on a Land Fill, (Garbage to those uninformed) this is where the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Burke airport and much much more now reside, could we ask for anything more?, The air, now that most of the Steel Mills are closed and put thousands out of work, has started to improve to the point where the sea gulls aren't dropping dead and falling from the sky, and the pigeon droppings on our buildings, where else could you get such cheap fertilizer? And then there's Hopikins International airport, driving there is such an experience, especially if you don't know where you're going, it brings tears to the eyes just thinking about it, then there's the Cleveland Indian who choke in the playoffs and are dismantled by managment to the point they will be lucky to place 3rd in their division, yes these are only some of the benefits you'd experience by visiting, I would say from those misinformed parties who gave you those inaccurate statements concerning us, just have never bothered to stop and take it all in, but they are probably from out west somewhere where all they get is that digustable mountain air. What do they know??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

just some ideas mac

(Disclaimer: everything here is in Jest, and is not meant to demean any city or state) have to put this in, in case someone takes the wrong way

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Alpha Kodiak

February 11th, 2002, 10:03 PM

Growltigga - Glad to hear you survived the great adventure! Arizona in the winter is about as tough as you can get. The high is only supposed to get up to the mid 70s today in Chandler.

Sounds like Canyon de Chelly was fun. I hope the rest of your sight-seeing turned out as well. Sorry, no snow for you though. I suspect we are going to have a problem this summer as we aren't getting much precipitation this year. Oh well, it won't be the first time.

Gryphin

February 12th, 2002, 02:00 AM

Tig, I'm sure it will be no cake walk I have serious attention span issues with anything this complex. Things like forgetting to move ships or build colonizers.
None the less, I do suggest a turn limited game where the score is not visble to us as the playing is more important than the outcome. (in my ideal world)
To bad we cvould not link up when you were in Boston. If you think you might come again, let me know, I"ll send you my phone number.

Sleep well.

Growltigga

February 12th, 2002, 02:10 AM

[QB]Tig, I'm sure it will be no cake walk [QB]

I disagree Guffin, may be not a cakewalk but more of a noodle surprise perhaps??

[QB] I have serious attention span issues with anything this complex. Things like forgetting to move ships or build colonizers. [QB]

Of course you have attention span issues, so would I if I had as many women 'on the go' as you do

[QB] None the less, I do suggest a turn limited game where the score is not visble to us as the playing is more important than the outcome. (in my ideal world) [QB]

Guffin, for the first time ever I think, I agree with you. I would like our game to be brought to us by the letter 'H' and the number '4' if you get my drift - given the lack of time I have to play this superb game, I wouldn't want any power hungry despoiling unchivalrous machiavellan lunatic, geriatric, Canadian or otherwise to spoil the show

[QB] To bad we cvould not link up when you were in Boston. If you think you might come again, let me know, I"ll send you my phone number. [QB]

Will do, I spent the time in some lawyers office so didn't see anything of Boston other than a sea food restaurant that looked as if it had seen better millenium, still the cod was pretty nice

I hate spending time with American lawyers, they always go on about how they earn about 10 times more than us european lawyers - in fact, one of the best things about my trip to AZ was when a large bottomed bin dipping US attorney fell off the back of the tour truck into an ice cold river in canyon de chelly, me and the navajo driver laughed so loud our bladders almost burst

[QB] Sleep well.[QB]

I am not going to sleep, it is midday here and too much work to do but still, I am really looking forward to Madrid, great city, lovely people, great food and superb wine

Still, I will miss my chicken and rib barbecue combo, glass of poison and watching the sun devils at Cooper'stown in Phoenix

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Gryphin

February 12th, 2002, 02:56 AM

Growtigga,
It is good we agree on something
Check your private Messages.

Growltigga

February 12th, 2002, 11:33 AM

AK, I really enjoyed Arizona - I must admit that it wasn't my initial first choice of holiday destination but having gone there, I did enjoy it.

spent a few days in Pheonix, had a good laugh at ALice Cooper'stown - a young lady showed me her surgically enhanced breasts within 10 minutes of my being in there, got to go to the Sun Devils/Golden State basketball ball game on the Friday - went to a brewery in Tempe with steaks to follow at Monti's (food was shocking so didnt pay the bill) - even did Phoenix zoo - could have slapped the locals for going incessantly on about how cold it was

Based the rest of the time out of Flagstaff and Page - did the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Canyon de Chelly (excellent, phenomenal steer from you there), Lake Powell - did 1450 miles in 5 days - got a police warning for speeding, had to dig a truck out of ice in Canyon de Chelly, was attacked by a porcupine (I fell on it), locked the car keys in the trunk up beyond Monument Valley in Utah

Packed a lot in in the time

Overall, I think you live in a very attractive state. Phoenix could do with losing some of the sprawl but anywhere that has the Biltmore Shopping Plaza where you buy Ralph Lauren shirts for under $20 is ok with me

The one downside of all however is Lil' Dittys Bar in Phoenix Live in the Arizona Centre. Have you been there? there is absolutely no excuse for this sort of venue - shocking is all I can say

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Growltigga

February 12th, 2002, 11:38 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
Aahhh, Ohio, what can I say, for example, In Cleveland, the great lower Harbor area was built on a Land Fill, (Garbage to those uninformed) this is where the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Burke airport and much much more now reside, could we ask for anything more?, The air, now that most of the Steel Mills are closed and put thousands out of work, has started to improve to the point where the sea gulls aren't dropping dead and falling from the sky, and the pigeon droppings on our buildings, where else could you get such cheap fertilizer? And then there's Hopikins International airport, driving there is such an experience, especially if you don't know where you're going, it brings tears to the eyes just thinking about it, then there's the Cleveland Indian who choke in the playoffs and are dismantled by managment to the point they will be lucky to place 3rd in their division, yes these are only some of the benefits you'd experience by visiting, I would say from those misinformed parties who gave you those inaccurate statements concerning us, just have never bothered to stop and take it all in, but they are probably from out west somewhere where all they get is that digustable mountain air. What do they know??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

just some ideas mac<hr></blockquote>

So the net response is that Ohio is the cloaca maxima of the free world. Something in between a cess pool and a dead dog covered in maggots, save without the charm.

Remind me to never pop in and see you

Your disclaimer was funny, here in the UK, your remarks could be counted as fair comment so now worries there

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Growltigga

February 12th, 2002, 12:25 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
You must be someone of great moralle fiber and astounding intellect. <hr></blockquote>

You mean of sufficient immoral fibre to try circling the wagons and enough intellect to think it up!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

mac5732

February 12th, 2002, 06:03 PM

GT, just wanted you to know, the "Shiva Option" is out by Weber & White, but only in hardback, I love the story, but they want $27 for the hardback copy, I love to read but $27 is a little much, probably wait for the paperback to come out in several months.

Also, Kidding aside, Ohio is a nice state, you just have to overlook some of the oddities just like in any other city. Do have some beuuutifl sites, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif also Kings Island, Cedar Point, among others.

PS: I think all of us here would like to hear more about the "attack of the Porcupine" and just what you were doing to be mugged by one of nature's innocent wonders (LOL) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

just some ideas mac

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Growltigga

February 12th, 2002, 06:09 PM

Yeah, cheers for this Mac, I saw the hardback copy (at $27 a pop) in a WH SMith at Hartsfield, Atlanta Last Thursday/Friday- I really was churned about whether to buy it or not as (a) I feel one should support specialist producers such as Baen (b) I only had $35 in cash left (I didnt know I would be bouncing back to Boston in 4 hours of landing home) and (c) the 1.75 litre bottle of Jack Daniels Reserve was $33 and I couldn't afford both and (d) Mrs GT wanted the cash to spend on some clinique make-up - my remark that polyfilla or anything other industrial grouter would work just as well left me limping for the next 6 hours

I am only kidding about Ohio - I have never really been there other than Cleveland - that does tarnish one's perception you know

mac5732

February 12th, 2002, 06:30 PM

Besides re-living the "Attack or Mugging of the Porcupine", how about a little more on the "Implant Adventure" Heh, Heh, I know, I know,
"Mac, Your a Dirty Old Man" I think we deserve the full details on both episodes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

PS. Yeh I know about Cleveland, I live in one of the Suburbs....

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

February 12th, 2002, 06:45 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
Besides re-living the "Attack or Mugging of the Porcupine", how about a little more on the "Implant Adventure" Heh, Heh, I know, I know,
"Mac, Your a Dirty Old Man" I think we deserve the full details on both episodes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif PS. Yeh I know about Cleveland, I live in one of the Suburbs....just some ideas mac<hr></blockquote>

OK Mac

The Porcupine Episode

This happended Last Wednesday in Canyon de Chelly. We were in an old US army truck (I believe you call then deuce and a halfs) on a tour in canyon de la muerto (the north canyon). Weather was bright but cold, in fact the ice on the canyon bottom was quite large.

We got the deuce stuck on a 2 foot thick block of ice whilst fording the river. There are 10 of us in the truck but the navajo driver only has 1 shovel and most of the rest of the possee dont want to help free the truck. I have this idea to get a couple of large sticks to help break up the ice. Me and a guy from Utah go to get a couple of sticks - I fall over whilst doing so and land on what I thought was a black green scubby plant but is actually a porcupine. Bloody quills get stuck in my left arm, hand and shoulder. Bloody painful to get them out I can tell you and has ruined a perfectly good fleece. Anyway, guy from Utah is a doctor so happy ending.

The implant incident

Dont ask me why this happended, ask Alpha Kodiak, Phoenix D, Wardad or any other of the Arizonans. I was sitting in Cooperstown with Mrs GT drinking when this nice young filly comes up, obviously a bit drunk and asks me if I know 'Mike' - She thinks I am someone elses' brother and when I explain I am a red blooded Englishman and far more sophisticated than the locals, she simply pulls up her top and asks me what I think of her breasts. I said they were great. Mrs GT only got upset when I asked young girl if I could touch them as I was curious, purely out of scientific interest only, what they felt like.

Guys, does this happen in Phoenix regularily??

Phoenix-D

February 12th, 2002, 07:05 PM

Uhh, my best guess is that she got drunk and got sent over on a dare- not to you specifically but to whoever "Mike" was, and missed the target http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D

Growltigga

February 12th, 2002, 07:09 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Uhh, my best guess is that she got drunk and got sent over on a dare- not to you specifically but to whoever "Mike" was, and missed the target http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D<hr></blockquote>

Cheers Phoenix D http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif , did you ever think I may just have this effect on young girls? it can get very embarassing, especially when they do it to you at the supermarket

Have you ever been to Little Ditty's in the Arizona Center?

mac5732

February 12th, 2002, 07:38 PM

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif BMT, I must depart off net for short time, I have to go someplace, I will endeavor to answer/question the fruits of your escapdes upon my return, aahhh science research.... don't leave home without it..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac

Phoenix-D

February 12th, 2002, 07:45 PM

"I may just have this effect on young girls"

Oh come on, surely they aren't THAT desperate. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

EDIT: I don speli to gud

Phoenix-D

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Growltigga

February 12th, 2002, 07:50 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Oh come on, surely they aren't THAT desperate. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <hr></blockquote>

I dunno, you are the one who lives in or around Phoenix, if Little Ditty's was anything to go by, the local talent is sufficiently stressed that they would flash their assets at good looking strangers!

Phoenix-D

February 12th, 2002, 08:17 PM

"local talent is sufficiently stressed that they would flash their assets at good looking strangers!"

Therein lies the problem.

Phoenix-D

mac5732

February 12th, 2002, 10:33 PM

I should think that the Implant episode should teach all of us a lesson. We should always carry a small tape measure with us in case the chance of a scientific research situation arises. I'm sure the good GT, in the furtherance of science, would have endeavored to explain to the young filly, that for research purposes, the exact size, composition, and make up of the endowed aforementioned items, would be necessary before a
truly honest and forthright theory or hypothisis could be brought foreward into the light concerning her aah, umm, assests. I'm sure that if GT had this small instrument and explained to Mrs GT of the scientific research that was to be conducted due to the availability of the subjects in question and that he needed the information to impart upon his colleagues (namely us), concerning the exactness of that research, that she would have understood and therefore would not have been upset and in fact would have wished him well upon this most enormous of adventures. (PS,
Its a shame, that being a tourist, that you didn't have a camera with you to document your unexpected yet exceptional discovery. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

PSS By the way did Mrs GT really let you touch them???? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gryphin, what do you think of attending this location to further this discovery of such magnitude. Maybe Phoenix D could be pursueded to look into this matter a little more closely and report back to us on his findings.

just some ideas mac

Gryphin

February 12th, 2002, 11:11 PM

Mac, I visit Tucson every 2 years to go hiking. I always carry a tape measure but it is used for other activeties, (that I won't go into here).
I think next February I will indevor to follow up on the research suggested. I wonder if she likes hiking.

Alpha Kodiak

February 13th, 2002, 01:03 AM

Well, I'm afraid that I haven't been to Little Ditty's so I'm not sure what things are like there. I can assure you that I have yet to have anyone display their augmentations to me, so perhaps it is just your English charm. Then again, maybe it is just that females sense the engineer in me and avoid me like the plague. If I hadn't met up with a cute female engineering student (a very rare commodity, BTW) in my college days, I would probably still be single.

Growltigga

February 13th, 2002, 03:53 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
[QB]Therein lies the problem.QB]<hr></blockquote>

Phoenix D - so you are agreeing with my proposition that the menfolk in Phoenix are such a poor show that the local women will naturally suffer a rush of hormones and hysterically overreact when a strange male enters town - I have seen in this problem in many parts of the world, especially in the States where the women seem to think that every English male is as endowed as a well hung baboon.

Mac - you really are pervertus imprimus - what would Mrs Mac say if, when you are confronted with a paragon of surgically enhanced nubility, you ask "Please can I take a photo of them, have a feel and go blubble" - if I tried that, Mrs GT would withdraw certain of my privelages - the first of which to go would be breathing.

Alpha K, you seem like a decent and civilised chap and I would give you this warning - dont go to Lil Dittys if you value your sanity, integrity, sense of humour, any civilised traits you think you have and your music taste - we were there the night before my mate's wedding cos his bride to be loves the place - he was having seconds thoughts I can tell you - I have never seem anything so disturbing in my life. Dont put yourself down as well, I am sure that you are winding us all up and Mrs Alpha K is really Roselyn Sanchez or some other lovely

Alpha Kodiak

February 13th, 2002, 05:57 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:

Dont put yourself down as well, I am sure that you are winding us all up and Mrs Alpha K is really Roselyn Sanchez or some other lovely<hr></blockquote>

Trust me, she is far better than any empty picture that can be seen on a screen. She is both beautiful and intelligent, but far more important, she understands me and who I am. She even puts up with my game addictions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Further, she actually encourages me to get more computer equipment, and she knows how to use it!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Even better, she has no more desire to go to a place like Lil Ditty's than I do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

My previous comments were in reference to the fact that the majority of females shy away from us engineer types because we don't seem very exciting on the surface. I am not complaining. I am far better off, having found the one I have, than if I had managed to attract someone who would not understand what makes me tick.

Growltigga

February 13th, 2002, 06:26 PM

AK, that is wonderful, you are making me cry and I am glad you have a real soul mate.

Me, I just like racy latino lasses with big buffers and a lingerie selection out of Victoria's Secret http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

mac5732

February 13th, 2002, 07:45 PM

AK, does the Mrs really encourage you to buy more computer equip and play time? Hold on to that one they are few and far between. Gaming usually does not get along to well with women because it takes away from them, sigh, they just don't understand.

Growltigga, The human body, especially the female type, is probably one of the most studied objects in the world. In addition, it is used in more art work then any other single object. Therefore, any furtherance of research into this particular art form is well worth the endeavor to try and understand the make up of the ahh, umm, ahh, assets of those who are most fortunate. Mrs M. knows my preferences for those with exceptional, shall we say babba-loos, and has mentioned that fact to me on a number of occasions when I was observing the various forms of this particular art http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Discretion during observations in this area must be incorporated into this type of research, (unless you want to sleep on the couch with the cats) if one is married.

Gryphin, I wish I could go with you on your research trek, but, alas, when one is married ones scientific activities are just nil. However, if you would make a journal concerning your hopeful discoveries, I would be more then happy to read them over upon your return to ascertain the sincere objectivity of your findings. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

February 14th, 2002, 01:39 PM

Mac, babbaloos?? I have never heard that one before, well, you live and learn - discretion IS the better part of valour when it comes to activating the tottyscope in the presence of the wifey

I am happily sitting in a cafe on the Gran Via in Madrid watching all the racy latino types going shopping and Mrs GT just thinks I am typing an email to work - she doesnt realise my faraway gaze is actually concentrated on the Penelope Cruz lookalike with the zero gravity hooters walking into the Mango shop opposite!!

Guff, you are beginning to worry me - what do you do that involves hiking in the desert with a tape measure?

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Growltigga

February 14th, 2002, 03:06 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Tig, You are beginning to worry me. What are you doing in Spain posting to this board???? Does your therapist know about your addiction? I mean, you are getting therapy? (I hope).<hr></blockquote>

My holiday doesn't actually start until Saturday -Today and Friday I am working - I have a project document to finish so I have decided to come out with wifey to Madrid early to finish working on it here (hence laptop) rather than Manchester. The problem is that our IT department have buggered up the conVersion so I am waiting for them to send me the document so I can work on it hence my presence on the forums (and the topless cheerleaders website).

What they dont know (the IT boys, not the cheerleaders) is that I have already pretty much finished the document and can relax tomorrow - I need to show that I am still working

Wifey doesn't want me with her anyway whilst she goes shopping - can't blame her there

You are the worrying one, having multiple girlfirends, CTW, wandering round deserts with tapemeasures, wearing that general custer hat and allowing some mange ridden furry rodent to inhabit your top lip

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PS British folk do not need, or go to, therapists. We are naturally well adjusted and dont have continual hang ups like you NAs

Gryphin

February 14th, 2002, 03:24 PM

Considreing the other forum you visit, your speculation on "Circle the Wagons". and your hangup with my hat, I have my reservations about you you being well adjusted.
Tig, you know you can't begin to heal untill you admit you have a problem.

Growltigga

February 14th, 2002, 03:39 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Considreing the other forum you visit, your speculation on "Circle the Wagons". and your hangup with my hat, I have my reservations about you you being well adjusted.
Tig, you know you can't begin to heal untill you admit you have a problem.<hr></blockquote>

Oooohhhh, look who's talking!

I don't actually look at any ahem, adult related website - I am not even sure a topless cheerleaders website exists - like Alpha Kodiak, Mrs GTR is all I need (so she tells me) although some of the Spanish talent is phenomenal

In respect of the therapy, let me look at this from a professional viewpoint

"My lord, the prosecution asserts that it was Guffin Goodfellow who freely admitted that he regularily visits and participates in an adult website and that it is he who has brought the expression, 'circling the wagons' into the public domain and has alluded that this term has sexual connotations leading, naturally, to innocent speculation from all and sundry. My lord, if you should also consider visiting the defendants' website as an adjunct to this case, you will see that he is obviously the sort of inidividual who enthuses all aspects of his life with, to use the coloqiual parlance, a 'wild west' spirit. If you should consider my lord, this individual persuades not so young ladies to participate in 'circling the wagons', wears what can only be described as a general custer hat whilst doing so and, if the court can bear with me, allows a prairie dog to inhabit his top lip. He is also known to regularily visit the classic 'Wild West' landscape although no one is quite sure where he finds a use for a tape measure although our first witness, a Mr M Mac from Cesspool, Ohio has been known to make some interesting if anatomically impossible suggestions. My lord, to add to this and I might add, a indictable offence in its own right, the defendant freely admits to listening to country and western music. My lord, I would not even ask you to speculate if he does indeed own a pair of chaps and several cowboy boots.

My lord, the prosecution rests its case.

JUDGEMENT: 10 years of reconstructive therapy, isolation treatment and a complete ban from all rodeos and line dancing events

Gryphin

February 14th, 2002, 03:57 PM

My Lord, I ask you to consider the source.
I hereby proffer the following not in self deffence but in an effort to enlighten the Tig, (however futile it may be).
1) A close examination of the aformentioned hat and comparisons to that of the one worn by General Custer that they are clearly not even close in any way shape or form.
2) I do not now and there is no evidence that I have ever attended an establishment that allowed line dancing. My vision makes such an enviorment unsafe for me.
3) Mr. Tig fails to point out that I also listen to Classicla music, Read Shakespere, Kipling, and Tolkien as can also be scene at my web site.
Again, I ask you to consider that Mr. Tig left this off his statements.
4) I do own two pair of western style boots. They protect my shins from unseen objects. This is the same reason I wear Hats with wide brins.
5) I at no time implyed that "cirlcle the wagons" had any other connotation than as a defensive posture taken by troops and people when under attack. This was clearly explained in the same forum. Mr Tig expressed dissapointment that it had no other meaning.
6) As for the Gryphin Position. This is performed only with consenting adults and is no way illeagle here or in stuffy old England.
7) I refuse to even speculate what Mr Tig had in mind as to how I use my tape measure on the trail.
I hearby appologise for Mr Tig taking up so much of your valueble time.

Growltigga

February 14th, 2002, 04:12 PM

Growltigga

February 14th, 2002, 04:22 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
My Lord, I ask you to consider the source.
I hereby proffer the following not in self deffence but in an effort to enlighten the Tig, (however futile it may be).
1) A close examination of the aformentioned hat and comparisons to that of the one worn by General Custer that they are clearly not even close in any way shape or form. [QB]

could have fooled me, you look just like him from 'Little Big Man'

[QB]2) I do not now and there is no evidence that I have ever attended an establishment that allowed line dancing. My vision makes such an enviorment unsafe for me. [QB]

Prove it

[QB]3) Mr. Tig fails to point out that I also listen to Classicla music, Read Shakespere, Kipling, and Tolkien as can also be scene at my web site.[QB]

Yeah yeah but the point is you are still a Garth Brooks fan

[QB]Again, I ask you to consider that Mr. Tig left this off his statements. [QB]

ooh the truth hurts

[QB]4) I do own two pair of western style boots. They protect my shins from unseen objects. This is the same reason I wear Hats with wide brins. [QB]

he likes to wear wide brimmed hats to protect his shins?? the boy is mad??

anyway, legally, A CONFESSION, A CONFESSION

[QB] 5) I at no time implyed that "cirlcle the wagons" had any other connotation than as a defensive posture taken by troops and people when under attack. This was clearly explained in the same forum. Mr Tig expressed dissapointment that it had no other meaning. [QB]

M'lord, the phrase CTW was mentioned by reference to it being discussed on an adult forum - please refer to the normal sort of discussions held on adult forums in order to ascertain the likely content and preamble into this topic

[QB] 6) As for the Gryphin Position. This is performed only with consenting adults and is no way illeagle here or in stuffy old England. [QB]

Don't bet on that, in Cheshire, you can still legally be birched for felching

[QB]7) I refuse to even speculate what Mr Tig had in mind as to how I use my tape measure on the trail. [QB]

The prosecution counsel is speculatin gin the absence of information. Unless you can prove that you work for the National Distance and Meausrement Recording Bureau, you will be guilty until proven innocent

[QB] I hearby appologise for Mr Tig taking up so much of your valueble time.[QB]

Guards, take him to the cells

<hr></blockquote>

mottlee

February 14th, 2002, 04:38 PM

ROFL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gryphin

February 14th, 2002, 04:49 PM

I hereby reject the decision of the court. I will submit soley to a jury of my peers: That would be the members of this formum.
I ask all present to cast their vote:
Guilty
Inocent
Naive

mac5732

February 14th, 2002, 05:31 PM

LOL, I must attend a meeting shortly, but I shall reserve judgement upon receiving your briefs, (as is in Law that is, not the other kind, ha,ha http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) after which I shall render my findings which shall be objective in nature, taking into account what little evidence has been submitted and the review of these possible web sites as mentioned in these proceedings to affect the truth in that which has been stated, This shall only be my, single findings, other verdicts from other members of this forum shall not be included as they also have the right to comment and reach their own conclusions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

February 14th, 2002, 05:48 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
I hereby reject the decision of the court. I will submit soley to a jury of my peers: That would be the members of this formum.
I ask all present to cast their vote:
Guilty
Inocent
Naive<hr></blockquote>

PERJURY!!!!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif how dare you cast contempt on these proceedings by describing the other members of this worthy forum as your peers. Peers means equals

Are you trying to say that we are all dodgy hat wearing, old womanising misanthropic cheap dodgy desert-orientated deviants partial to unmentioneable sexual practices with predilections for sticking small furry rodents under our nostrils????!!!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Growltigga

February 14th, 2002, 05:57 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mottlee:
ROFL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <hr></blockquote>

What does ROFL mean? this court only understands Latin (and Spanish "dos cerveza por favor")

Mephisto

February 14th, 2002, 06:32 PM

Guards! Enough of this! They are both guilty! Take them away and torture them. Or, even better, lock them in one cell for the next month. Now take them away!

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Gryphin

February 14th, 2002, 06:40 PM

Mephisto Sounds good to me, but only if we can have a pair of networked 1.7ghz, computers with net access and SE IV installed. Plus a copy of SE IV gold when it comes out.

Gryphin

February 14th, 2002, 06:42 PM

Tig, Yes, I do think we are peers here and find your description unacceptable. (though possibly true).

Growltigga

February 14th, 2002, 06:46 PM

Excuse me Mephisto, donkeys are not allowed in this court room, please remove yourself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Growltigga

February 14th, 2002, 06:52 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Tig, Yes, I do think we are peers here and find your description unacceptable. (though possibly true).<hr></blockquote>

Hmmm, legally it cannot be unacceptable if it is true.

Therefore, we have another CONFESSION!!!!!!!

Hmmm, I am only your peer to the extent we both play SEIV - I am not sure Alpha Kodiak, Phoenix D, Suicide Junkie, Mephisto (the mule) or the rest would want to be considered equals to me or necessarily I to them. And as for Mac!!!!

Mephisto

February 14th, 2002, 08:40 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
Excuse me Mephisto, donkeys are not allowed in this court room, please remove yourself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <hr></blockquote>

Well, at least people get a warm and fuzzy feeling with me where you are just a bold cold green something. And I can talk much faster then you! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

mottlee

February 14th, 2002, 09:41 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:

What does ROFL mean? this court only understands Latin (and Spanish "dos cerveza por favor")<hr></blockquote>
OK...OK ROFL= Rolling On Floor Laughing (is realy to be ROFLMAO)My A** Off
I hope this clear up any miss understanding http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

mac5732

February 14th, 2002, 10:24 PM

I have still not had a chance to research the submissions to the court in order to render an unbiased, objective decision in regards to a vote of guility, not guilty, not guilty by reason of insanity or naive. Its been a day from h... around here so far.

"Bold cold Green Something",?? (uuh ooh) BMT

"A warm Fuzzy Feeling with Me" BMT

"And as for MAC" Ah, thank you tigga for your inferrence of being your Peer, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I knew us older more mature, experienced, scientific based, unbiased, very objective, discreet, honorable adults would show forth and have an affect on you younger generation wipper snappers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

I do have to get back to surfing the net for those sites as mentioned earlier, as stated in your case, I have already reviewed "The Gryphin" site and must force myself to locate the Adult site where CTW commenced even tho it might be rough going, I must force myself in order to render my most unbiased and objective vote after close study and soul searching once it is located and my legal research is conducted. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif sigh... What one must go thru to find the truth on one's statments or ascertations. BUT, someone has to do it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PS; what do you have against "wearing shorts", don't they have them over there????

just some ideas mac

[ 14 February 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

Gryphin

February 15th, 2002, 02:59 AM

Tig, You are beginning to worry me. What are you doing in Spain posting to this board???? Does your therapist know about your addiction? I mean, you are getting therapy? (I hope).

mac5732

February 15th, 2002, 06:15 AM

I have exhaustivly researched the charges that were brought here within. And I would like to list my findings as only 1 member of this forum.

1. After an extended, exhausting, but relentless time consuming search, and after visiting a good number of adult and X, XX, XXX, sites, I found that the majority of the depositions taken from those I discussed this case with, stated that the CTW or "The Gryphin Position" is still in the experimental stage of development. Even though numerous theories and descriptions were put foreward, there was no positive proof for or against the Gryphin being on an adult site where this research was discussed. (tho I have a feeling he used a non deplume so as not to be traced) And even though he admitted to his involvement in the use and experimentation of this new phenomena, unless or until he publishes his findings in book form (along with scientific photos) in either one of those most noteworthy of magazines such as "Enquirer, or the Star" or put into the 101 known positions as number 103, ( the "Twinkle is numbe 102)I'm afraid that there is not enough evidence for or against. Therefore, I must consider this charge to remain open until further interrogatories can be accomplished. Findings - Inconclusive

2. In regards to the "rodent" under his lip, I printed the photo from his web site and conferred with a number of experts within the scientific commmunity here at some of our universities near where I live. After microscopic examinations of blown up photos of the "thing" in question, and after hours of deliberations, extensive study and along with cross referencing the known rodents within the U.S. it was discovered that this was in fact not a rodent but what we call around these parts as a "Wooly Bear", or commonly known as a variety of catepillar. This particular species is long, furry and quite larger then the normal variety seen most everywhere else but is usually more prevalent in the winter months. Everyone felt that a DNA test would bear out these findings unquestionably if further proof was required by the court.
Findings ; In favor of the Gryphin

3. In regards to the question of whether the Gyphin Line Dances, his own deposition shows that he listens to Country Western music, wears cowboy boots, has a very questionable hat with a wide brim and goes on hikes in the Wild Western portions of the U.S. Therefore, I must agree with Growltigga on this point, in all probability, the Gryphin does indeed frequent these types of establishments and does indulge in this form of wild native rituals called "Line Dancing". Therefore his denial and Alibi is dismissed. Findings; Favor of Growltigga,

4. Last, in regards to his "Custer Hat", again blown up images were used and after careful study
it was indeed decided that the article in question lacked any type of arrows, holes, feathers, tumble weed or other materials that would would have been present had this indeed be a "Custer Hat". Comparisons were made of various hats worn by a number of the macho western type males and it was determined that the "hat" in question resembled more of a "John Wayne" type style. This in itself raised a number of questions that can not be answered without further investigation. Therefore,
Findings - in favor of the Gryphin

These are only my personal findings and should not be construed as those by any other members of the forum.

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just some ideas (very tired Mac)

[ 15 February 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

Growltigga

February 15th, 2002, 11:18 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by [K126]Mephisto:

Well, at least people get a warm and fuzzy feeling with me where you are just a bold cold green something. And I can talk much faster then you! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <hr></blockquote>

true, but then I am the star of the show, the one who is useful in a fight and more importantly, I GET THE GIRL - you get to snog a lizard

Mephisto

February 15th, 2002, 11:34 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
true, but then I am the star of the show, the one who is useful in a fight and more importantly, I GET THE GIRL - you get to snog a lizard<hr></blockquote>

Well, I don't need to be useful in a fight - I don't fight myself. I have my lady. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
And your lady is green and cold, too. Not much improvement there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Growltigga

February 15th, 2002, 12:01 PM

The court would like to thank Mr Mac of Cesspool, Ohio for his learned findings. The court has carefully considered his findings and after due deliberation, would respond as follows, using, for ease of reference, the numbering set out in his own submissions:

1 the court considers that Mr Mac's inconclusive judgement is proabably flawed. It is obvious that during his extensive, and disturbingly knowledgeable, research into 'adult websites', Mr Mac's brain has turned to cream cheese, he has gone blind and his knees have turned to water. The court also suspects that he has sprained his wrist and should seek immediate medical attention.
The case in point is that the defendant admitted to frequenting adult sites (Quote "talk about it if I am not doing it" unquote) and that the phrase 'circling the wagons' resulted from a discussion on said adult site.

The court's view is that the defendant has already provided numerous confessions and entertainment with this regard. Guilty as charged.

2. The court thanks Mr Mac for correctly pointing out the discrepancy in the type of fauna inhabiting the defendant's top lip. The court would point out that as a European institution, it is not familiar with the native fauna found on the east coastal maritime regions of the continental United States and would appoint Mr Mac as its expert in this regard. The court would point out that it does have plenitentiary powers to levy charges against north american nationals.

Following Mr Mac's expert submission, the court has moved to amend the charges by removing references to 'prairie dogs' and replacing these with "Wooly Bear",as our expert has stated,a commonly known as a variety of catepillar. It is obvious to the court that this is the form of creature horribly abused by the defendant and forced to live on his top lip and therefore the defendant isa found guilty on all counts.

3. Following Mr Mac's expert submissions, the court has reviewed the evidence levied against the defendant. After discussion with our learned colleague in the european union, it has been agreed that line dancing is a crime against humanity. The court will consider sentence after this hearing.

4. The court thanks Mr Mac for this evidence but would suggest that this is not the most forums conveniens in order to conduct sophistry. The court considers that the differential headgear mentioned in Mr Mac's submissions is pure semantics. The defendant is accused of wearing a silly hat with a large brim reminiscient of a variety of historical wild west hollywood figures. The court finds the defendant guilty as charged.

On a general point, the court would like to thank Mr Mac for his investigative efforts and would suggest that at his age, he should have a nice cup of tea and a sit down. A pair of slippers and a comfy chair are also suggested
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[ 15 February 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

Growltigga

February 15th, 2002, 12:04 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by [K126]Mephisto:

Well, I don't need to be useful in a fight - I don't fight myself. I have my lady. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
And your lady is green and cold, too. Not much improvement there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <hr></blockquote>

You've met Mrs GT then, she can also be a bit like your girl when she doesn't get her own way

[ 15 February 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

Growltigga

February 15th, 2002, 03:04 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
1) I am prepared to submit to a lie detctor test on the "Line Dancing" issue. I repeat, due to my vision, I am not able to perform such an act.

GUFF, I dont believe you, line dancers are notoriously tricksy about their leisure activities - we bet you do have a pair of rhinestone chaps, a gold lamee lariat, a stetson with an eagle feather in it and answer to the name of "Gryphin the Kid"

2) Macs efforts not withstanding still fail to come up with any evidence that Circle the Wagons or the Gryphin Possion is in any way shape or form an ileagle act in where I reside.

GUFF, just give Mac time, he will come up with all sorts of suggestions or give himself a mild cardiac in the process

3) I am prepared to supply a strand of the growth above my lip to any and all who wish to analize it.

GUFF, yuk, no thanks

4) The judge is a POMME and sho9uld be removed from any action outside of England.

GUFF, are you saying I am an apple?? do you mean a pommie? you are not Australian, I thought you oiks said 'Limey' but what this fascination is with citrus fruit is beyond me - this from a nation that thinks peewee herman is funny

5)Please remember, I do not do this as an act of self defence. My actions do not merit defending. I provide any informaion to assist you in your quest for knowledge

GUFF, scary, just plain scary mate

<hr></blockquote>

[ 15 February 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

Gryphin

February 15th, 2002, 03:13 PM

Reguarding POMME or POMMEI, The shoe fits and as such you are hereby disqualfied to be judge over this matter.
I do own a true brand name Stetson and a whip,
Neiter is gold lammee nor do they have a feather and I don't own chaps
My dates can attest to this and how I use them
I have to ask you what you would "bet"?

It is good to know you are afraid of my mind. I will use it to trounce you.

Growltigga

February 15th, 2002, 03:18 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Reguarding POMME or POMMEI, The shoe fits and as such you are hereby disqualfied to be judge over this matter.

GUFF - I cannot be disqualified for being an apple of for being English - my court, my rules so yah boo to you

I do own a true brand name Stetson and a whip,
Neiter is gold lammee nor do they have a feather and I don't own chaps

GUFF, you are damned by your own words - another CONFESSION

My dates can attest to this and how I use them

GUFF, stop right there, the public do not wish to know any more

I have to ask you what you would "bet"?

GUFF, quite a lot, quite a lot

It is good to know you are afraid of my mind. I will use it to trounce you.

GUFF, I am not afraid of your mind, only slightly concerned about your personal habits

<hr></blockquote>

Gryphin

February 15th, 2002, 04:32 PM

Complete surprise!
The esteemable GrowlTigga agreed with me on something. Check out the "Captured Planet Thread"

Growltigga

February 15th, 2002, 04:55 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Complete surprise!
The esteemable GrowlTigga agreed with me on something. Check out the "Captured Planet Thread"<hr></blockquote>

dont hold your breath for the next time

mac5732

February 15th, 2002, 06:33 PM

Ahem, If it please the court, I would like to address a vote on the appeal as filed herein by the defendent, the "Gryphin", in the capacity as a friend of the court and as a class action.

1. The Gryphin has shown thru prior testimony and thru photos on his website of attending the hobby of hiking as well as recording photos of various topography within the Continental U.S. This is very condemning on his part in regards to "Line Dancing". The excuse of "due to my eyesight" is found to be misleading, inappropriate, a sham and filled with irregularities. Since the ritual of "Line Dancing" cause one to be within close approximation of others as well as a particular dress code, which the defendent has stated prior, that he imbibs upon, his excuse just doesn't hold water. Further, since the ritual involves gyrations, movement, and the clinging of one to another, I do not see how eyesite has any bearing upon this issue. Therefore, my vote remains in favor of Growltigga.

2. Inregards to voluntering a specifman from the "Wooly Bear" in question, after medical and scientific discussions with those of higher knowledge in this type of endeavor, it has been determined that, In all likely hood, the small furball has become involved in a symbiote relationship with the Gryphin due to the amount of time it was incarcerated or forced to remain upon the upper lip of the defendent, in violation of the Humane Acts within this country. Therefore, any type or amount of plucking of this poor much abused creature, would have dire consequences tantamont to a possible nervous breakdown or of such disgusting secreations that it would be considered cruel and painful to the little criter. Therefore, I would like to beseech the court to let prior testimony stand and to be judged upon there merits without the unnecessary torture of the little fur ball residing upon the Gryphin's protruding upper lip.

3. As I am typing this with my left hand, (the right one is recovering from being overworked during the extensive research on the Adult sites,) I must pause for a break before answering the appeal in regards to Circle the Wagons and the Gryphin Position. (However, in closing, I would just like to remark, that if the Gryphin would like to enter photos of the ahem experiment, it might help to better decide this issue before the court. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Growltigga

February 15th, 2002, 06:50 PM

Mac, ROFL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

mac5732

February 15th, 2002, 07:03 PM

"Complete Surprise, The Esteemable GT agreed with me on something, check out the Captured Planet Thread"...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif smoke screen, smoke screen,

just some ideas mac http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Growltigga

February 15th, 2002, 07:08 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
"Complete Surprise, The Esteemable GT agreed with me on something, check out the Captured Planet Thread"...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif smoke screen, smoke screen,

just some ideas mac http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <hr></blockquote>

got it in one tiger

[ 15 February 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

mac5732

February 15th, 2002, 08:49 PM

May it please the court, but in reviewing the recent Posts it appears that the Honorable Member (K126)Mephisto has raised the question concerning the color green along with a condition as cold concerning a member of this proceedings. Could the court expostulate upon this trend. Is this something that English courts require or is this condition caused by sitting at a cafe in Madrid watching the "Racy Latino" Fillies? (and you say I'm a "dirty old man") At least I use my age as an excuse http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

just some ideas mac

mac5732

February 15th, 2002, 09:21 PM

Gryphin, the Honorable Member Mephisto has raised a question concerning a particular member of the court, who in addition, has admitted to some saucy conduct while visiting Madrid, un-be-nowing to the fair wenches that reside within that illustrious country.

hmmm, you might have grounds for a mistrial or at least an appeal to the Legal Ethics Committee on the grounds of the mental state of the aforementioned member of the court during this hearing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

just some ideas mac http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gryphin

February 15th, 2002, 09:25 PM

As the Tigllette is now AFK for about a week, I will abstain from further comment on this subject.
I will however thank you for bringing these very relevant facts to my distracted attention.

mac5732

February 15th, 2002, 09:38 PM

Gryphin, didn't know he left again, he didn't even say good bye this time, hmmmmm fishyyyy

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

February 15th, 2002, 10:09 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
Gryphin, didn't know he left again, he didn't even say good bye this time, hmmmmm fishyyyy

just some ideas mac<hr></blockquote>

Nothing fishy, Mac, Goodbye, see you in a week

Mephisto's reference to green and cold was to me being Shrek and him the donkey

As for being interested in attractive Spanish girls, even lawyers are human

See you all round, kick a canadian for me

Gryphin

February 15th, 2002, 10:10 PM

Now we can talk about him behind his back. The cool thing is: He does not know what AFK means. No doubt he will missinterpret it.

Gryphin

February 16th, 2002, 02:21 AM

1) As I am a citizen of the United States of Ammerica, and as I have never been to any part of the UK, I do no fall under the jusridiciton of the English court
There for, I am inocent until puroven guilty.
Further, The judge does not make the decision of guilt. That is the responciblity of the jury. So far we have only had the vote of 3 of the members of the jury and as such it does not constsitute a conviction.
I shall remain a free Man untill I am indeed found guilty by a jury of MY peers.

[ 15 February 2002: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

Growltigga

February 16th, 2002, 02:33 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
1) As I am a citizen of the United States of Ammerica, and as I have never been to any part of the UK, I do no fall under the jusridiciton of the English court
There for, I am inocent until puroven guilty.
Further, The juse does not make the decision of guilt. That is the responciblity of the jury. So far we have only had the vote of 3 of the members of the jury and as such it does not constsitute a conviction.
I shall remain a free Man untill the final verdict is in.<hr></blockquote>

The defendant will put a sock in it whilst the court is in session. It should be pointed out to the defendant that as the court has decreed that line dancing is now a crime against humanity, international public law applies and as the United States of America is party to, and has ratified, both the Hague Convention and the Lugano Treaty, international jurisprudence applies.

The weight of evidence against the defendant is also sufficient to indicate that he is guilty until proven innocent.

The defendant should also realise that as international law applies, there is no trial by jury. The judge will proclaim judgement once all expert testimonials have been received. The testimonial of Mr Mac of Quagmire, Ohio is useful evidence, but it should be added that his sanity is subject to separate court investigation so all evidence from him may be struck out.

Gryphin

February 16th, 2002, 02:49 AM

1) I am prepared to submit to a lie detctor test on the "Line Dancing" issue. I repeat, due to my vision, I am not able to perform such an act.
2) Macs efforts not withstanding still fail to come up with any evidence that Circle the Wagons or the Gryphin Possion is in any way shape or form an ileagle act in where I reside.
3) I am prepared to supply a strand of the growth above my lip to any and all who wish to analize it.
4) The judge is a POMME and sho9uld be removed from any action outside of England.
5)Please remember, I do not do this as an act of self defence. My actions do not merit defending. I provide any informaion to assist you in your quest for knowledge

Mephisto

February 16th, 2002, 02:54 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
You've met Mrs GT then, she can also be a bit like your girl when she doesn't get her own way
<hr></blockquote>

May I suggest inflamable clothing to you? At times I was nearly as bold as you but not green, My color was more ... ah ... burned ...

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Growltigga

February 16th, 2002, 02:59 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by [K126]Mephisto:

May I suggest inflamable clothing to you? At times I was nearly as bold as you but not green, My color was more ... ah ... burned ...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif <hr></blockquote>

I dunno, German fashion sense! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Mephisto

February 16th, 2002, 09:07 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
Even lawyers are human<hr></blockquote>

This is open to discussions and many argue about it. Or so I've heard...

Gryphin

February 16th, 2002, 10:05 PM

Mephisto, an interesting point,
I should never be judged by somone who is inhuman.

mac5732

February 17th, 2002, 07:57 AM

I didn't know Shrek was a Lawyer, but I guess they all look the same, Green & Cold http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac

Mephisto

February 17th, 2002, 11:36 AM

I AM NOT GREEN AND NOT COLD! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
I didn't know Shrek was a Lawyer, but I guess they all look the same, Green & Cold http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
just some ideas mac<hr></blockquote>

Gryphin's Fyre

February 17th, 2002, 04:20 PM

Greetings to Mac....

Mac, Shrek wasn't a lawyer he was a solicitor. Nothing could be as green and cold as an English lower level court official. I believe we are insulting the animation.

I wish to thank you, with deepest admiration for your studies into my Dear Gryphin's defense in this abusurd pompous, ill conceived, debaucle of a "case". I am sorry to hear of your injuries and pray they heal most expediently. (how did you explain this to Mrs. Mac?)

Point to make if I may, a solicitor is a lower level, civil, will-making being. I think that our "es-steamed" Mr. Tiggles is passing himself off as a more reputable barrister and is totally unqualified to address such a high level court as befits the bogus accusations brought against my Dear Gryphin.

I would humbly suggest that this sham of a case be summarily dismissed. I also request that Mr. Tiggles make haste to the icecream stand to purchase a suitable confection for Dear Gryphin, in as much as he has slandered and blackened his white hat image in these proceedings.

I would also request that all references to things native to the wild west and its regions be hereby stricken as Mr. Tiggles is apparently jealous of any such references due to the fact he lives on a tiny island with his cousin's cousin's cousin.

In conclusion.. nice to meet you all!

[ 17 February 2002: Message edited by: Gryphin's Fyre ]

mac5732

February 18th, 2002, 07:28 AM

Mephisto, my most humblest and sincere apoligies. I did not mean to infer this discription as to yourself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I have met over the years some few lawyers who more then fit the description, HOWEVER, I did not mean nor classify you in their catagory. I should have been a little more specific, sometimes I do put my foot where it doesn't belong, I meant no ill will towards you.

Gryphin Frye, I welcome you to the forum and the G&G Thread, and thank you for the concern of my most recent injury. However, Mrs M was actually delighted as she was thinking of obtaining a restraining order or TPO against Mr Righty as he was seemly becoming more frisky due to the amount of scientific research that I was conducting on various aspects of the case, especially on those ahhemmm Adult Sites, and the "Twinkle" was starting to appear more often then usual. (sigh)
Lefty just doesn't have the strength to carry on without him since he has taken over the majority of the work http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

In regards to the Tigga, I appreciate the input as to the true meaning of Solicitor as used outside of the US. I always thought Solicitor and Lawyer meant the same in all regards all over. Around here, Some lawyers are referred sometimes as Solicitor, however, both carry the same meaning, at lease as far as I know.

In regards to the wild west, you may have a point after the Tigga's most recent escapade concerning the attack or mugging of a small, innocent, porcupine, which was in all probablity, just going about his everyday business of looking for grubs, ants or whatever they eat, when all of a sudden he is set upon in a most undignified and unannounced intrusion which I'm sure he/she is still reliving in his/her dreams to this day. At the very least, the poor little thing should have been whisked away to a therepist for theraputic treatment to ensure his future mental state let alone the traumaization this in all likely hood caused its family upon the gruesome facts being revealed upon its return to its burrow. Yes, this could cause some biasedness upon the current proceedings. The Gryphin may have a case for a mistrial.

justs some ideas mac

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Saxon

February 18th, 2002, 10:31 AM

As a member of the jury, I move to have to judge removed from the proceedings. His comments have caused me personally, and the people of my nation generally, great emotional unrest. Given that his comments are clearly hate literature and an incitement of violence against a particular social group or nationality, he should be removed from this trial and charged accordingly.

Please find below the posting of Mr. Growltigga on February 15, 2002. In said posting, Mr. Growltigga states “kick a canadian for me”, a clear statement of discrimination based upon nationality. The 1952 UN Declaration on Refugees clearly states that this type of activity amounts to persecution. This Declaration been signed by most nations of the world, including Canada, the United Kingdom, the United States, Kenya and Spain. Should anyone be truly interested, I can provide links to the appropriate websites or post the body of the declaration.

Given that Mr. Growltigga was undoubtedly in one of the above jurisdictions when the statement was made and that key members of this tribunal were similarly situated, it is clear that he ,and these proceeding, fall under the Convention. As such, his clear verbal persecution of Canadians, in contravention of the Convention, disqualifies him from hearing this case.

Further, his latent English Imperialism and condensation towards Canada and Canadians clearly makes a mockery of his double standard accusations of Imperialism towards other members of the forum. One who clearly holds one set of values while espousing a radically different set is clearly not fit to render judgment, nor press charges, against honest and upright individuals such as Gryphin.

This member of the jury votes to acquit Gryphin of all charges. However, he will also admit puzzlement at how wearing a distinguished and manly mustache could be a criminal offense. Perhaps the rot that set into the Mother Country, causing the loss of Empire, has spread genetically and the English now lack the testosterone to grow that which distinguishes man from boy.

mac5732

February 18th, 2002, 06:58 PM

As seen within the courts members, it appears that there is a question of biasness and/or discrimination in conjunction with a member of the court. The Honorable Saxon has made a motion for acquital of the defendent based upon the most exlempory of points under the law due to the apparent atrocitious conduct of one Growltigga, solicitor, Therefore, the case should be granted a stay until a vote by the court members as to the mental status of said presiding magistrate and an appropriate response. Those in favor of either an acquital or stay of these proceedings please signify by voting yea or nay and expostulating their choice.

PS. In addition, due to the upcoming PBW game later this year, those who are willing to take part, start considering upon the names and backrounds of their respective species in order for the other species to begin a dialoge with in preparation of the eternal conflict that shall rage upon open space

just some ideas mac

mac5732

February 18th, 2002, 10:56 PM

Saxon, in all fairness to Mr Growltigga, or Tiggles as coined by Gryphin Frye, I reviewed his accusations and could not find anywhere that he slandered or debased "The Mustache". He belatedly pointed out that it appeared that a "rodent" had taken up residence on the upper torso of The Gryphin. However, after extensive scientific study, it was determined that it was neither a Mustache nor a rodent, but was in fact a form of Wooly Bear catipillar. For some reason, whether by force or voluntarily, the little furball took up a symbiote residence upon the upper lip of Mr Gryphin. This can be beared out by the use of a magnifying glass on the photo in question that resides in Mr Gryphin's Web site. In fact if you look closely at the upper right cornor of the little creatures anatamy, you shall see what appears in texture and color, an article, that resembles what GT described as the "Custer Hat", between what apparently could be construed as its ears. Apparently the little darling is going thru an identity crisis and is trying to identify with its current host. There is no logical explanation for this type of relationship, but in no way should this be mixed in correlation to a Mustache. In fact, this could, by Gryphin's own statments, attribute to his extracurricular activities in regards to numerous dates. Similiar when one gives another a soft, cuddly, cute Teddy Bear. As has been proven over and over, some types just can't resist these types of enhancements and become intriged by soft, cuddly, creatures. It becomes quite a conversational piece, which in turn could, raise one's chances of obtaining an above normal number of dates. The exact reason the furball is there, will probably never be know, as communication has not been established as far as we know. I hope this explanation relieves your fears of Mustache Bashing by the Tigga. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

just some ideas mac

Gryphin's Fyre

February 19th, 2002, 12:00 AM

Dear mac.. please be assured that the aforementioned catepillar is not its own life force... it is firmly and most delightfully part of Sir Gryphin's own countenence... There need be no research on this done on your part dear mac, I have researched this on my own and find it to be as I have stated.

As for the Custer hat, it is a neccesary part of his life as he has alluded to... and some of us find it most appealing and manly, far better than the large black furry hat like objects found on the militia on a small island.

Most humbly submitted for your benefit, Gryphin's Fyre

Gryphin

February 19th, 2002, 02:26 AM

Ladies, Gentlman and GrowlTigga,
You have met your "match",
I would like to introduce Gryphin's Fyre
A woman of beauty, brains, and banter

er: mac? heads up
I'm sure it was just a typo but please note the apostrophe indicating singular posesive and the spelling of "Fyre".

And yes for those wondering, she is one of my dates and yes she and I have explored the Gryphin Position

Instar

February 19th, 2002, 02:41 AM

"...condensation towards Canada..."
???
I suppose you would get condensation in Canada, since it is rather cold... and if it was humid enough

mac5732

February 19th, 2002, 06:18 AM

My apologies My Fair Lady, It was indeed a typo, as I was in a hurry to enter my response upon these pages, (also my 2yr old granddaughter sitting on my lap didn't help any, she likes to play with the keyboard.) The correct spelling shall be addressed as Gryphin's Fyre. Your humble servant Mac http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

just some ideas mac

Gryphin's Fyre

February 19th, 2002, 08:09 AM

Dear Mac, I take no umbrage from your error, for are we not all human? (certain ogres excluded of course) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif When battle is at hand though we should remember the errors oft made from our enemies.. which I have desires to make none of here. 'tis in good fun n'est pas?

Give your lovely grand-daughter a hug from Gryphin's Fyre... and thank you for the kind salutation..

Respectfully, Gryphin's Fyre

Saxon

February 19th, 2002, 10:52 AM

Mac,

The scientific research which you have cited is convincing and I am finding myself having to review and question my earlier decisions. The delightful woman, Ms. Fyre, offers first hand evidence in support of the view that the item in question is in fact a Moustache, but her subsequent statements throw doubt upon impartiality of her testimony. Given these doubts, the court should consider accepting the Woolly Caterpillar explanation for the observed phenomenon.

Members of the court will clearly wish to know the grounds upon which Ms. Fyre has lost her accreditation as an unbiased observer and may be shocked to learn that she shares anti-Canadian views with the questionable Mr. Tigga. However, she has slandered the “large black furry hat like objects found on the militia on a small island”, exposing her true colours. For those of you who are unaware, these hats are of Canadian origin, as the English exterminated all wild bears on their island by the Middle Ages. While bear baiting continued as a popular sport (continued in modern form as Tigga baiting), these animals were European imports.

As such, Ms. Fyre has clearly indicated that she harbours latent anti-Canadianism and we must take her views with this in mind. Given the widespread anti-Canadianism present in the media today, the figure skating scandal being but one example, it is not surprising to find it occurring in witnesses of the court. Moreover, Ms. Fyre is clearly of otherwise good character and loves small children, so this member of the jury is inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to her.

As such, I will confirm my declaration that the object in said photo is in fact a Moustache and not a Woolly Caterpillar. Those who wish to look upon this logic with condescension may go and have condensation fall upon them.

mac5732

February 19th, 2002, 07:33 PM

In all deferance to M'Lady Fyre, I must agree with the Honorable Saxon as to the possible biasedness in regards to the furry criter inhabiting the upper torso of The Gryphin. Since the Good Lady is associated with the Gryphin her testimony is suspect, no offense intended M'Lady,
therefore, I must stand by the scientific evidence in regards to the Wooly Bear. It also strengthens my hypothisis that there are those out there that in fact are taken in or become enchanted with small furry, cute, and fuzzy creatures that become attached to a host. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif In regards to the questions of the Blk hats, I must demur a response, as I currently do not possess sufficient knowledge at the present to encampus a proper comment upon the question as put foreward by members of this forum.

M'Lady, I agree banter is all in jest and is not intended to flame, imbroil, offend or target anyone or one's state or country maliciously, and look foreward to facilitating the aspects within this thread with yourself as well as all those who wish to join in. Again, I remain your most humble servant. Mac

just some ideas mac http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Gryphin

February 20th, 2002, 02:20 AM

Saxon and company,
I am sure that Ms. Fyre will address "hat" issue in due time. She and I have discussed this item and I can assure you she in no way ment to cast asspersions upon the our noble neighbors, the Nation of Canada.
If I interpretted it correctly, it does seem she was indicating a personal preferance for the style of head gear I have a predeliction to.
None the less I am biased and leave it to those present to carefuly read the phrase again and note the structure of the sentace.

Gryphin

February 20th, 2002, 05:57 AM

mac,
um, I think you addressed Gryphins Fyre, but seemed to be discussing my post. Are you feeling ok? Are you still in shock from your reserch?

mac5732

February 20th, 2002, 07:41 PM

Not really my good Gyphin. I just jumbled everything together. M'Lady talked about banter being in jest, I agreed, Saxon, yourself and M'Lady talked about blk hats, I just gave a response, etc. I was always taught when addressing a group the Ladies were always addressed first. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif So you see, my senility is not quite that bad yet, tho my recovery from my injury in regards to my research does slow me down somewhat. (sigh) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

just some ideas mac

Gryphin

February 20th, 2002, 10:15 PM

mac, Maybe Gryphin's Fyre would be interested in assiting you with your recovery. I don't know. You can check.

Gryphin's Fyre

February 21st, 2002, 02:34 AM

Ahh yes Good Sir Mac, I am associated with Sir Gryphin, but I am quite aware of my independence and therefore would tell you, as he will confirm, I am a very fair and honest being. I will not stand for lies, cheats, ignoble acts and basic bullocks-type attitudes. I stand very separate from Sir Gryphin and will not falsely attest to anything, no matter who would benefit, and the subsequent consequences that befall my truthful position are minor to bear, and I do so bear them with glee. <silly smile>

I, having raised two girls, 20 and 19, on my own, am not taken in by ANYTHING �small, furry, cute and fuzzy� especially being a �creature�. I know this involves a long-term commitment, usually involving a veterinarian and large amounts of litter of some type. Being one who is much inundated by various droppings of all nature (being I work for the Commonwealth) I certainly will not take such a creature on. (Men included)

Black hats.. ahh yes� reference to the guards I have seen outside the various encampments in London � no reference to my kind Canadian neighbours, Dear Saxon, for whom I have held close to my heart since they helped the American hostages held in Iran, between 1979-81. �Oh Canada� was, and always is oft on my lips by way of my heart. I thank you for your kindnesses in trusting my judgment on the veracity of the �moustache� situation. No animals are ever harmed while in my view.

Even though I was once employed in a hospital, I feel that injuries as deeply wounding such as yours, are best left to the closest expert (see Mrs. Mac.) Had you not an expert in your life, I would be most pleased to offer assistance. (Refer to my rules above.) Sir Gryphin is most liberally revealing my kindhearted talents � and accommodating demeanor.

Humbly submitted for your perusal, Gryphin�s Fyre

Growltigga

February 21st, 2002, 01:19 PM

This thread is getting stranger by the day - it has gone from sounding like a bad court drama to something more akin to a really bad 1950's mediaval movie starring douglas fairbanks jnr and basil rathbone

First, greetings to Gryphin's Fyre, glad you can join us on this enlightening and interesting thread.

Secondly, you are about 25 years out of date on solictors. Barristers lost their exclusive rights to the higher courts in the early 80's - a solicitor is the same description as a US attorney ie a general description - some of us may specialise in what we term high street matters eg wills, divorces, house purchases, neighbour disputes, other of us are corporate/commercial lawyers to purely act for businesses and corporations. I am of the latter persuasion and specialise in finance and corporate law.

Thirdly, I like Canadians. I have every Rush CD going and even one from Honeymoon Suite. If that is not evidence of being Canadian friendly, then what is??? I even hope you guys win the gold in the ice hockey - Saxon, apologies if I have causesd offence - I am sure there is no truth whatsoever in rumours of moose kissing north of the border

Fourthly, Gryphin's Fyre - your remark about English being cousins of each other ie implying we are imbred etc is slightly triple O. The UK has historically one of the most generous immigration policies in the world and is truly multicultural. That is one of the reassons there are 65 million of us on an island half the size of California. We even have the Welsh for cripes sake

Fifthly, Mac, I agree and concur with Mephisto on your lawyer remark. We have your name, we have your address. You have been warned.

Sixthly, the general consensus is that Guffin does dress like a cowboy and that he does have a ridiculous furry thing on his top lip - whether this is an animal (as the court queried) or part of him is irrevelant - what is salient is how silly it is which seems to have been agreed by general consensus

Seventh, this is my court, anyone dont like the judge can take a long walk off a short pier

Eighthly, Guff, is that site up yet?

Ninth, I have sneaking suspicions that Gryphin's Fyre and Gryphin are one and the same. If this is the case, LOL - keep an eye out for another new member called Mrs Tigga - if not, nice to meet you Mrs Gryphin. you are a brave and non-selective lady

[ 21 February 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

Growltigga

February 21st, 2002, 03:14 PM

Thank you Guff, I really did enjoy my holiday - Madrid is an excellent city for sight seeing, eating and drinking and shopping. Wonderful place, wonderful people, real sense of enjoyment in life which for us north europeans, can sometimes seem so refreshing, especially in the horrible weather you get in February in Manchester

Good for you, keep on trying to parry and thrust, however ineffectual it may be

Pity the other site is not ready, I look forward to continuing our discussions on that site sans you know who

Fair comment re your furry fella but then women are notorious in their strange tastes in men, after all, Mrs GT married me, Mephisto [probably] has a girlfriend and even Mac has had his input into the genetic pool

I am the judge and I preside here because of, to quote the old adage, "peace through superior firepower" - you need a lawyer to be a judge, that means me or Mephisto - take your pick

I am always in good spirits, this week I am in Manzanilla, Montilla and a particularily fine rioja - this weekend I will probably be in Jack Daniels

Taste of what medecine?? your Posts for the Last 2 weeks have been on the back foot all the way - it will take more than Mac and Saxon to win this one for you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ 21 February 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

Gryphin's Fyre

February 21st, 2002, 03:22 PM

I am short on time at the moment, but please DO take a look on my profile, homepage. I AM a separate being...and I am NO ONE's MRS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

more later... Gryphin's Fyre

Growltigga

February 21st, 2002, 03:30 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin's Fyre:
I am short on time at the moment, but please DO take a look on my profile, homepage. I AM a separate being...and I am NO ONE's MRS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

more later... Gryphin's Fyre<hr></blockquote>

and how much is he paying you??

Saxon

February 21st, 2002, 04:20 PM

Gryphin’s Fyre,

It is good to hear that you are free of the taint of anti-Candianism. I noted that your associate, Gryphin, has pictures of Maple Leaves on his web site. Which brings me to an important point. Does he give you as many roses as the pictures he takes of roses? I do hope so.

Mac,

This may be a heretical question, but will the big match be played in Gold? As for race design and personality, you talked about a pre game dialogue. Other than the “Coalition to Fight the Dark and Evil Force that is Tigga” which appears to be forming, did you have anything in mind when you mention a dialogue?

Further, due to some (insert ungentlemanly language here) who work at State Department, by annual leave has been cancelled. No sitting on the beach near Cape Town, I am going to be hiring new staff and buying new computers here. When Tigga gets back, I am excited to get the game fired up. Do you think we can look at changing the start date?

As you know, we all look to you as our natural leader and organizer, so it should come as no surprise that you are getting asked these questions.

Growltigga

February 21st, 2002, 04:30 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Saxon:
Other than the Coalition to Fight the Dark and Evil Force that is Tigga[/QB]<hr></blockquote>

Eh? I am genuinely shocked at this!! isn't this a bit harsh?

With regard to Mac being your natural leader, I am glad to see that a geriatrocracy can exist on this forum that young bucks like Saxon have respect for their elders http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Saxon

February 21st, 2002, 04:30 PM

Oh dear, he has returned…

Tigga, glad you had a good trip. Never fear, I will do my best to take offense at whatever you say and come across as thin skinned and ill humored. Seriously, don’t take me seriously. And if you really did buy a Honeymoon Suite album, well, you deserve everything you get.

Saxon

February 21st, 2002, 04:38 PM

Actually, I was just going from something you had said. Something about Lasting no longer in the game than a brownie in a furnace? I had just extrapolated a great Axis of Goodness which aimed to cleanse the universe of Tigga. Perhaps I was wrong and it will be a Great Coalition to Destroy August Imperialist Empires and I will go faster than a snowball in the same furnace. Then again, that year of wisdom that this young buck has on you might make all the difference...

Growltigga

February 21st, 2002, 04:42 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Saxon:
Oh dear, he has returned…

And if you really did buy a Honeymoon Suite album, well, you deserve everything you get.<hr></blockquote>

a bit harsh, it is always nice to re-live the shadier parts of the 1980's by putting on my old Nightranger, Honeymoon Suite and Steve Vai CD's

nothing wrong with the 1980's, a great time especially as I was in my teens and full of sloshing hormones. Some people are obviously still stuck in the 80's - hmmmmm, I havn't heard from the Guffin for a couple of hours!

Growltigga

February 21st, 2002, 04:46 PM

Saxon, you can try to wind me up all you want but I have promised Mrs GT to be nice to Canadians and other under-privelaged peoples. After all, any race that produced something like Lee Aaron needs all the help it can get.

Please dont show your age by answering that one

PS on a serious note, I am very sorry to hear about your holiday - can they do that to you? dont you have contractual rights to holidays? that is a complete swine

Saxon

February 21st, 2002, 05:04 PM

Hmm, that looks suspiciously like a lawyer looking for a labour law case… More seriously, everything related to the US government overseas (we are sub-contractors to State) has been more than a little upset since September 11. They have finally came out with a plan and we need to jump. I could go on leave, but I would be shafting my staff, the program and my career. It was my choice, but it is one that I should not have had to make if things had been better planned Stateside.

I am heading out for the night, enjoy yourself.

Growltigga

February 21st, 2002, 05:25 PM

Saxon, your comments are noted and agreed with.

Have a good night, I hope you are not in too bad a state tomorrow morning

Take care

GT

[ 21 February 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

Gryphin

February 21st, 2002, 05:48 PM

I'd love to respond to everything but it will have to wait till I get home.
I have bogies on my six and no wingman.

Growltigga

February 21st, 2002, 06:14 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
I'd love to respond to everything but it will have to wait till I get home.
I have bogies on my six and no wingman.<hr></blockquote>

Perdone por favour, no comprendo

Gryphin

February 21st, 2002, 07:27 PM

Folk within the services, please correct me if I’m wrong. I believe this is from the Air Force and / o Navy.
Bogie – Unidentified and presumed to be a threat
On my six – Behind me or “On my tail”. Needless to say, an enemy fighter on tail puts you under a lot of uncomfortable preasure.
Wingman – A friendly fighter air craft part of whose mission is to “cover the tail of the leader” ie: Keep the bogies off of it
In my case, I have a ton of work to get done and I’m under the gun to get it done today. I have no assistance. * shrug * The bogies I can out run, I’ll out gun.

Growltigga

February 21st, 2002, 07:30 PM

oh I understand now, good luck in getting your work done, I suspect you will be putting in for overtime!!

tesco samoa

February 21st, 2002, 07:30 PM

Hey have you guys noticed that no one is talkin' bout Enron. All hush hush like there is nothing going on. Lets quickly forget this ever happened.

Very Strange.

mac5732

February 21st, 2002, 08:32 PM

Gryphin's Fyre, I thank you for your generous offer. Mrs M. is a pro, however, her comment was more like, "serves you right, you enjoyed yourself a little to much on those sites", even tho I explained it was strictly for scientific research and to perform an unobjective view upon the guilt or innocense of allegations against one of our honorable members brought before the court, and asked her to help in my theraputic therapy in regards to overcoming my current condition. (I can't print what her response was to this request.) (However, I have deep suspicion she was enjoying the break in activities, sigh) Alas, I must suffer alone and in blissful peace with only my lovely Grand-daughter showing concern for her Bud. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Tesco,

I agree, Enron appears to be a hush hush situation, my opinion only, probably involves a lot of big fish and is more then likely bigger then Watergate was, What we need is some good investigative reporters to get in there and let us know exactly what's going on. Don't see that much in the papers on it and yet more affecting then watergate. hmmmm

Growltigga,

Greetings and Salutations, good to have you back, hope you didn't strain yourself too much while enjoying the sights http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif And I have a good number of friends that are Lawyers, In fact, in my current hotseat game, 1 is a lawyer, another a minister and the 3rd member is retired.

Saxon,

Just because I'm older, mature, respectable, modest, scientific, dashing, swauve, humble and shy, I thank you for the complement of elder. However, even though I play SEIV quite a bit both SP and in Hot Seat, I have never played a PBW game. Therefore, I am a newbie in this area and defer you to one of the veterans like Tesco, Phoenix D, Mephisto(if he's still talking to me, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ) or one of the others as far as setting up and hosting the actual game. I'm afraid they will have to help me get the hang of PBW.

I remember someone saying a 48hr turn time, I have no problem with that if its agreeable to everyone else. We also need to know who all wants to be in the game, as well as, the number of AI, settings, etc. I can help set this part up just by everyone posting their wishes on this thread or leave it up to whomever wants to host it.

BUT, as far as dialoge goes and setting up your race, I just thought we could at least start getting into it by designing our various races and begin a role playing dialoge here within this thread in addition to our normal banter, to hype everyone and see what dastardly deeds, threats, or mayhem develops among us players, could be quite fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gryphin, If as we hope, M'Lady is indeed a seperate entity of the opposite sex, Does she play SEIV and would she like to join in?

just some ideas mac

[ 21 February 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

Mephisto

February 21st, 2002, 09:01 PM

I'm still talking to everyone here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Awful lot to do at the moment, just writing a verdict and trying desperately not to cut and paste SE4 beta reports and forum postings into it. Would look a little weird if such thing would slip by. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

mac5732

February 21st, 2002, 09:21 PM

Example of possible dialoge:

To; Your most Furry and most Bodacious Hive Leader "Tiggles" of the Tigga Collective,

We, the Tkachik Federation, who are the most humble and peaceful of races, have observed your most hideous looking spawn, cruising thru our Attica System. We must insist that you remove your cat-tails at once or suffer the indignity of being throughly trounced by our superior and valiant naval forces. If you have sufficient reason to enter our beloved realm of influence, be so thoughtful as to submit in writing, which must be in triplicate and signed by responsible co-signers, your repulsive explanation as to this most inexcusable violation of our space.

Sincerely

El-Supremo The Magnificent
of the Tkachik Federation

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Mephisto

February 21st, 2002, 09:58 PM

Sounds much more like the good old Vogons. Don't we all love bureaucracy? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Gryphin

February 22nd, 2002, 02:27 AM

GrowlTigga, :: Deep bemused grin ::
Welcome back. I hope you enjoyed your vacation and stayed out of trouble.
As for the condition of this thread, I never defend. I will bring all forces at my disposal to parry and thrust.
No, the other site is not wready.
My moustach? Seeing as only men don't seem to like it, and my dates do, your point is moot
Your court? Like the judge?
The court is clearly that of this thread, and we all like the judge, we simply question his qualfications to preside here.
It is good to see you in such fine spirits.
Oh, and how does feel to get a taste of your own medicine ? < deep rolling chuckle >

Gryphin's Fyre

February 22nd, 2002, 04:05 AM

Greetings!

a few comments...

Mr. Tiggles...
As to the recent Posts sounding a bit medieval, if you read my profile you would see that I play an Online Role playing game... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif thus the medieval type speak.. it's a habit I have and it is VERY hard to break with tradition.. as you being british would understand completely. I apologize if my choice of verbal communication is a bit archaic and offends but then again.. 'tis who I am.

I do have a thought for you though, in reference to the "pay you" part of one of your Posts.. I don't really know how your wife would feel about you casting aspersions toward any womans line of work seeing as it clearly states I am a Graphic Art Tech in my profile.. need new specs? or, do you suggest that I am being paid by Sir Gryphin to be an ONLINE compatriot? Hmmm.. makes one wonder...either way suggests you may need to re-evaluate where you spend your free time such as in bars in spain oggling the wait staff in front of Mrs. Tiggles. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif If in your dotage you carry the same actions of your youth, "sloshing hormones" and all, Mrs. Tiggles has her hands full and has my blessings. Perhaps you would bode well to have a clear head when in battle, putting the hormones in a jar, tightly sealed and waxed tight.

Saxon
As for Roses... perhaps Sir Gryphin can elaborate on the "bed of Roses" he presents to me when I do see him. He is kind enough to remove Most of the thorns for me as well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Dear Mac
I unfortunately battle on different grounds than SEIV. Orcs, Ice trolls, Deamons and the like are my foe, although I tend to stick to my crafting and magery. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I am tempted to particpate but I am not as well versed in strategy as some are here, and would never assume to be as good as to play on the same field as you or your companions here.

Be well and safe journey to you all.
Gryphin's Fyre

Gryphin's Fyre

February 22nd, 2002, 04:26 AM

Greetings once again...
I am posting that I have fixed the error in my homepage address.. pardon.

Sincerly, Gryphin's Fyre

Saxon

February 22nd, 2002, 08:59 AM

To bring all of this back where it started, I note that Gryphin’s Fyre states her interests to include “Covered Wagons”. A risk of another injury to Mac’s wrist, would you care to explain if this has any relation to “Circling the Wagons?”

Mephisto, you have put me in a terrible dilemma. Do I play an obnoxiously self assured imperialist race or do I play race of leave canceling, bureaucracy loving buggers?

Cheers to all for the sympathy about my leave.

Growltigga

February 22nd, 2002, 12:03 PM

[QUOTE]do you suggest that I am being paid by Sir Gryphin to be an ONLINE compatriot?[QUOTE]

Yes, that was the total ambit of my suggestion. Please do not think I was implying that your good character had any sort of commercial negotiability to it

[QUOTE] Hmmm.. makes one wonder...either way suggests you may need to re-evaluate where you spend your free time such as in bars in spain oggling the wait staff in front of Mrs. Tiggles. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif [QUOTE]

As a separate point, "GT", "Tigga", "Growltigga" and "Tigs" I can handle, "Tiggles" is a step too far down the beatrix potter lane

Mrs GT is well aware of the attractions in Spain. She spends her time shopping in Zara and Arrarat - I spend mine having a cafe american in the Zahara bar on the Gran Via in Madrid watching the scenery and admiring the local architecture - mobile and otherwise

[QUOTE] If in your dotage you carry the same actions of your youth, "sloshing hormones" and all, Mrs. Tiggles has her hands full and has my blessings.[QUOTE]

I think that is why Mrs GT married me - I am sure it has nothing to do with my good looks, charm, panache, style and elegance

[QUOTE]Perhaps you would bode well to have a clear head when in battle, putting the hormones in a jar, tightly sealed and waxed tight. [QUOTE]

impossible, live by passion, die by passion

Growltigga

February 22nd, 2002, 12:06 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Saxon:
[QB]To bring all of this back where it started, I note that Gryphin’s Fyre states her interests to include “Covered Wagons”. A risk of another injury to Mac’s wrist, would you care to explain if this has any relation to “Circling the Wagons?”[QUOTE]

Saxon, please please please do NOT reopen that particular line of enquiry.

[QUOTE]Mephisto, you have put me in a terrible dilemma. Do I play an obnoxiously self assured imperialist race or do I play race of leave canceling, bureaucracy loving buggers? [QUOTE]

Just play yourself (ouch, that was a little triple O)

[QUOTE] Cheers to all for the sympathy about my leave.[QUOTE]

You actually do have my undivided unqualified sympathy on this. I think that this is exceptionally tough, especially given the ludicrous American work efthic to holidays - I am a supporter of the European concept of work hard, play hard and as us Brits work the longest hours in Europe, the 5-6 weeks holiday we get a year are even more precious

[ 22 February 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

Growltigga

February 22nd, 2002, 12:21 PM

To: The self styled anachronostic El-Supremo of the Tkachik Federation,

Thank you for your message which we naturally have disregarded and treated with the complete contempt it so rightly deserves. We can only assume that it is your advanced years and lack of suitable rheumatism cream that makes you act in such an uncivilised manner.

What sort of ludricrous pomposity makes your empire consider that we would submit anything in triplicate to you in order to seek consent or waste paper which could be more usefully employed as toilet roll.

Why would the glorious Tigga Confederation seek consent from an empire that sounds like us wretching up furballs?

In respect of your accusation that we have intruded on the Attica system, you should be aware, as is all galactic civilisation, that the Attica system is assigned to us as our ancient litter tray. If you wish to live in the catsan, you are most welcome but do not be surprised if we then leave a few Messages there. And as for 'hideous looking spawn', we are cats, we are cool, we look good doing anything.

Your 'valiant and superior naval forces' have as much chance of trouncing the glorious fleets of the Tigga Confederation as you do of winning Miss Universe.

We suggest you get a life, get some style and keep out of the cat's way

Grrrrrr

Regards

Growltigga I, the indisputable top cat of the Tigga Confederation and glorious holder of the Officer Dibble award

Growltigga

February 22nd, 2002, 12:23 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by [K126]Mephisto:
I'm still talking to everyone here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Awful lot to do at the moment, just writing a verdict and trying desperately not to cut and paste SE4 beta reports and forum postings into it. Would look a little weird if such thing would slip by. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif <hr></blockquote>

Mephisto, just out of professional curiousity, what sort of law do you specialise in?

Gryphin

February 22nd, 2002, 05:30 PM

GrowlTigga,
Just posting this here so we don't end up too far off topic in the New Races Thread".
(not that it would ever happen).
Sounds like a good set of books. Um, what do you mean by "nasty"? You know I am a very inocent.

Growltigga

February 22nd, 2002, 05:42 PM

Guff, I do reccomend these books to you most wholeheartily.

Start with "Sundiver" or "Startide Rising" and then follow the books in order.

Excellent ideas from a very good author. The basis galactic concept is that all the galactic races are dividied into clans of which several major races are "patrons" who have "uplifted" "client" races

what this means is anti-darwinism, basically, a sentient but non-sapient race is discovered by a spacefaring race who then adopts them (and becomes their patron) and over the next few thousand years, genetically modifies them (uplifts) to increase intelligence and makes them a spacefaring race. The subject race then becomes a client of the patron race for 100 thousand years and it is then allowed to go its own way.

Central to the books was that humans were not uplifted by a patron race but were evolved on their own. Before first contact, they had also genetically modified chimps and dolphins to intelligence.

Excellent idea, excellent books, damn fine reading material for the bog

Mephisto

February 22nd, 2002, 06:33 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
Mephisto, just out of professional curiousity, what sort of law do you specialise in?<hr></blockquote>

I will finish my law studies in approximately 1 year (after 6 years of studying, the minimum you can do it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif ). At the moment I'm at a civil court in Mainz near Frankfurt/Germany. (You know, the airport we meet and signed our "don't invade my swamp" agreement http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

Gryphin

February 22nd, 2002, 06:35 PM

dogscoff,
My therapist knows about my addiction, Does yours? She even knows it is one of the reasons I'm now single.
I was just wondering.

Growltigga

February 22nd, 2002, 06:39 PM

oh right, you are still studying law - that explains why you were writing up a verdict http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

here in England, law takes a 3-4 year degree, 1 year at law school and then 2 years training at which you are then officially qualified - I am now 5 years post qualification experience so I can give you this advice - DONT DO IT - go and work in McDonalds instead, it is more fun.

Whatever they have told you, it is not true, the travelling the world, the women, the fame and glory is not true and you dont even get your own swamp!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

that being said, I did read in the legal press about the German lawyer who made 8 million euro in one year http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Gryphin

February 22nd, 2002, 07:42 PM

GT,
Yes, I do have Enigma in my CD drive during SEIV. I move it to my Sterio System when I CTW.

Mephisto

February 22nd, 2002, 08:15 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
DONT DO IT - go and work in McDonalds instead, it is more fun.<hr></blockquote>

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif I know. That's the reason why I work as a paramedic, too.

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Whatever they have told you, it is not true, the travelling the world, the women, the fame and glory is not true and you dont even get your own swamp!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif <hr></blockquote>

Reminds me of song:
Everything that they told us
was nothing but lies
Everything that they brought us
was nothing but bribes

I can leave most of the mentioned things alone but NO SWAMP?!?! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif [/off getting his 50kt Nuclear Nav beacon launcher]

<blockquote>quote:<hr>That being said, I did read in the legal press about the German lawyer who made 8 million euro in one year http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif <hr></blockquote>

I wish I would know him. Might take his place http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Phoenix-D

February 22nd, 2002, 10:38 PM

The Tandu are nasty in the sense that you don't want to meet one in a dark alley. Or a light alley. Or anywhere for that matter. They're totally insensitve to losses- they use "engines" that give them a massive manuevering advantage, but occasionally blow up, taking the ship with them. Also using reality-warping weaponry, which is pretty unpredicable. One shot might turn the target into antimatter, another send clowns running down the hallways and through bulkheads. It's also mentioned in the book that the Terrans never beat the Tandu, even when the odds were in their favor.

Their clients are even weirder though.

Like the Epsiarchs. A sentient biological weapon? Ow. For those not familar with the books, an Epsiarch is a "psi adept" of extreme power. If one looks at you and decides you shouldn't be there, you AREN'T there any more. In one book, they were used to make a bridge by denying that the water underfoot existed at all. They use this same talent to power the "engines" the Tandu use. They're also insane..

Phoenix-D

mac5732

February 22nd, 2002, 11:00 PM

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif just brief note, I shall be busy for the next several days, so won't be on forum probably until Monday, so see ya all back then.

PS. I think "Tiggles" is a CUTE NAME http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

February 25th, 2002, 10:31 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
GT,
Yes, I do have Enigma in my CD drive during SEIV. I move it to my Sterio System when I CTW.<hr></blockquote>

oh lordy, it gets worse - Guffin, Guff's Fyre and the furry fella grooving on down to Enigma whilst circling the wagons!!! Guff, half of me is glad to hear this as I kind of thought you would be a Tammy Wynette sort of chap http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Growltigga

February 25th, 2002, 10:32 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by [K126]Mephisto:

I wish I would know him. Might take his place http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif <hr></blockquote>

Mephisto, if you do, will you marry me? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Growltigga

February 25th, 2002, 10:36 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
The Tandu are nasty in the sense that you don't want to meet one in a dark alley. Or a light alley. Or anywhere for that matter. They're totally insensitve to losses- they use "engines" that give them a massive manuevering advantage, but occasionally blow up, taking the ship with them. Also using reality-warping weaponry, which is pretty unpredicable. One shot might turn the target into antimatter, another send clowns running down the hallways and through bulkheads. It's also mentioned in the book that the Terrans never beat the Tandu, even when the odds were in their favor.

Their clients are even weirder though.

Like the Epsiarchs. A sentient biological weapon? Ow. For those not familar with the books, an Epsiarch is a "psi adept" of extreme power. If one looks at you and decides you shouldn't be there, you AREN'T there any more. In one book, they were used to make a bridge by denying that the water underfoot existed at all. They use this same talent to power the "engines" the Tandu use. They're also insane..

Phoenix-D<hr></blockquote>

Phoenix, I knew there was something about you I really liked and it must be that you are a fellow afficiondo of David Brin.

That is pretty much a good summary of the Tandu but I should point out for Guff that in addition to all the above, the Tandu themselves were as bad as bad gets. Imagine a nine foot tall multi headed black praying mantis, with chitinous razor blades on all legs and two damn great big sword like blades on its 'praying arms'. This thing is immune to pain, regularily loses limbs and heads without worry (even does so as part of a ritualistic yakuza style remorse ceremony on a regular basis). Oh, did we mention these things are pyschopathic blood thirsty lunatics?

Growltigga

February 25th, 2002, 10:38 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif just brief note, I shall be busy for the next several days, so won't be on forum probably until Monday, so see ya all back then.

PS. I think "Tiggles" is a CUTE NAME http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

just some ideas mac<hr></blockquote>

See you soon Maccy waccy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Mephisto

February 25th, 2002, 03:15 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
Mephisto, if you do, will you marry me? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <hr></blockquote>

I guess that would be even more unnatural then "circling the wagons".
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Growltigga

February 25th, 2002, 06:22 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by [K126]Mephisto:

I guess that would be even more unnatural then "circling the wagons".
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif <hr></blockquote>

may be but then I can forgive a lot of things for 8 million euro a year http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Gryphin's Fyre

February 26th, 2002, 05:45 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr> oh lordy, it gets worse - Guffin, Guff's Fyre and the furry fella grooving on down to Enigma whilst circling the wagons!!! Guff, half of me is glad to hear this as I kind of thought you would be a Tammy Wynette sort of chap <hr></blockquote>

Never have heard Tammy while circling the wagons... Enigma suits the situation well I think..

Gryphin's Fyre http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gryphin

February 26th, 2002, 01:45 PM

Fyre, I don't think you have ever heard Tammy at my place. I checked my CDs Last night, I don't own any. Still, what do you expect from someone who would accuse me of persuading or paying you to post here?

Growltigga

February 26th, 2002, 04:47 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin's Fyre:

Never have heard Tammy while circling the wagons... Enigma suits the situation well I think..

<hr></blockquote>

Miss GF, you do realise that I will never ever play my Enigma CD again don't you. It is going to cast up some worrying thoughts

Gryphin

February 26th, 2002, 05:48 PM

GT:
"Sounds" good to me. Since you won't need them, can you bring them with you when you visit?

Growltigga

February 26th, 2002, 05:52 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
GT:
"Sounds" good to me. Since you won't need them, can you bring them with you when you visit?<hr></blockquote>

LOL, if I had any (other than a cassette single of the return to innocence) they would be yours.

Gryphin

February 26th, 2002, 06:13 PM

Cassette? What is that. The word is familliar, Must be I'm distracted.

Suicide Junkie

February 26th, 2002, 06:16 PM

Little cartriges, a bit flatter than a deck of cards, with the magnetic tape on spools inside. Used in the players that come with almost any car radio.

Gryphin

February 26th, 2002, 06:29 PM

Oh, you meen like DAT tapes that we use for backups? Make sure you keep them away from magnets.
*Inocent Smile*

Growltigga

February 26th, 2002, 06:33 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
*Inocent Smile*<hr></blockquote>

Gryph, you dont fool me a second with this

I should have thought that someone of your advanced years and enhanced follicular position would remember cassettes - I should have thought you would have remembered gramophones as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gryphin

February 26th, 2002, 06:44 PM

GT:
You must be thinking of mac. I don't even remeber my dates names half the time.

Growltigga

February 26th, 2002, 06:48 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
GT:
You must be thinking of mac. I don't even remeber my dates names half the time.<hr></blockquote>

ouch, that is not very diplomatic - you are right about ol' maccy-boy - where is the old spindle-shanked reprobate BTW?

Gryphin

February 26th, 2002, 06:52 PM

I don't know where mac is. Maybe doing more "reasearch". Perhaps trying to uncover the secreats of CTW.
Diplomacy? Moi? no, Charisma, yes. Fyre can confirm this. She knows when I'm trying to get her name right because I pause and get a strained look on my face

Growltigga

February 26th, 2002, 06:57 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
because I pause and get a strained look on my face<hr></blockquote>

LOL and RAOFPMP - excellent and I do feel sorry for Miss GF.

I get the same feeling but normally after Mrs GT experiments with Thai/Morroccan cookery http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gryphin

February 26th, 2002, 07:10 PM

Uh,oh, Fyre is cooking for me this weekend. Please don't give her any ideas.

Growltigga

February 26th, 2002, 07:20 PM

ooh, I dont know about that, we tried moorish vegetable casserole with paprika chermoula, baked north african chicken with a lime tzatziki and cous couse with sultanas and coriander Last night

starters was spanish fried alomds with sea salt with wine

Gryphin

February 26th, 2002, 07:49 PM

I see, it must be part of your Grand Strategy to destroy my intestines thus incapacitating me. Very cleaver. I am dryly impressed.

tesco samoa

February 27th, 2002, 01:56 AM

Any date on the pbem game?

I think we should wait for the gold to arrive and start one with that when everyone has it who's in the game.

What do you think ???

Growltigga

February 27th, 2002, 02:17 AM

box car willy??

mac5732

February 27th, 2002, 06:46 PM

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif I'm back, at least for short time, been busy, have 2 budgets to get done, working on final appropriations & budget for my dept. for my full time job and another one as the President of our Homeowners assoc. both due this week, Hopefully should be back today or tommorrow.

TS, agree we should wait until Gold, also so far I believe its, you, myself, Tiggles, Gryphin, Saxon, don't know about Phoenix D or Memphiso, or if anyone else is interested.

also I think we should send Richard a memo to increase the Graemlin sysmbols, need some additional ones....... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

just some ideas mac

tesco samoa

February 27th, 2002, 06:53 PM

What process do you follow for budgets.

AT my work we follow CMM level 3

Suicide Junkie

February 27th, 2002, 11:26 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>also I think we should send Richard a memo to increase the Graemlin sysmbols, need some additional ones....... <hr></blockquote>Lets see...
:evil: (BwaHaHa type evil)

What about SE4 minis?
:SE4#23: -> turns into a WMG mini from components.bmp

Mephisto

February 28th, 2002, 01:05 AM

I'm already in two large PBEM games so I have to decline. I'm very sorry. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

tesco samoa

February 28th, 2002, 04:14 AM

I have been thinking of races to play.

I think I am settling on a Engrish 80's to early 90's arcade video game race.... Impulsive of course.... What your going to do when dig dug come for you........... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

minus the crappy humour. Tasteful humour only.

Saxon

February 28th, 2002, 12:57 PM

Are we doing PBW or PBEM? I have been in a PBEM with three people and it does move slowly. However, we have also said we have to wait for all three of us to put our turns in.

I have never played PBW, but I understand it is pretty slick. That, combined with choosing a host for PBEM, makes me lean towards PBW.

I am up for starting right away, but if we want to wait for Gold I can live with that.

These are just my suggestions:

medium size galaxy
three starting planets
low tech start
5000 racial points
infinate resources
no ai races (then again, maybe...)
role playing in all communication (actually, I have never done this, does it get tired?)

I figure this will be fairly crowded and see some action early. We can really work on getting unique races and focus on each other, rather than the Krill.

Phoenix-D

February 28th, 2002, 07:19 PM

"medium size galaxy" depends on player #
three starting planets- good
low tech start- good
5000 racial points- I prefer 2000 myself, but this would work
infinate resources-good
no ai races (then again, maybe...)-they make wonderful punching bags, but that's about it.
role playing in all communication (actually, I have never done this, does it get tired?)- I wouldn't try to enforce it, but I'd do it anyway http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I'd say wait for Gold too. New stuff to throw people off http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And do it on PBW. I can host, if no one else is up for it.

Phoenix-D

Gryphin

February 28th, 2002, 08:09 PM

My Take:
"medium size galaxy" depends on player #
three starting planets- good
low tech start- good
racial points- Either works for me
infinate resources-good
no ai races = Maybe the EEE? a Hive Race and a Neutral for Mephisto to take over if / when he has time.
role playing in all communication - Might be fun
I'd say wait for Gold too. works for me
Anyone with experiance with AI races in PBW games?
Over all, I'm flexible.

tesco samoa

February 28th, 2002, 10:43 PM

When you say med are we talkin 100 systems ??

3 planets---good
low tech--good
racial points--does not matter.
no ai races == good ... who needs them.
wait for gold == yes. I think this is the best way to test it.

I have two pbem friends who want to join.... They both role play.

PBW is good.

mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 07:23 AM

Hey, hey, I'm finaly done with the unmitigating work load, ugh...

Med sounds ok to me, but we may want to change to large depending on how many players we end up with. I'm for waiting for gold as well, 5000 racial pts ok, rest ok, however, we may want to throw a couple of AI (enhanced ones) in just to make it interesting or in case Memphisto gets some time and wants to join in or mabye some others like SJ, Atrocities, Chewy, LemmyM, etc. This way we'll have some extra races for those who join after we start. Also I've never played with PBW or PBEM so I'll leave that up to those who have, never had time, just help me get started, I'm a newbie in these two areas http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif I'll go with whatever everyone else wants, Looking foreward to it....

I'll have to start thinking on my race, hmmmmm Psychotic, Scientific, Research groupies, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

What about Star Destroyers, yes/no?, all warp points connected or???? What does everyone want or not want in the game????? What map?

just some ideas mac

[ 01 March 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 07:29 AM

Mephisto, don't liston to GT, I've known and worked with, for/and against, Lawyers, both Criminal & Civil for over 31+ yrs, and the only poor ones I ever met were those just starting out after graduating... Have you decided which type of law you want to go into? Criminal/Civil/? Money is in Corporate Law.
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just some ideas mac

mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 08:06 AM

GT, Old Retrobate Huh, well you young whipper snapper, To enlighten one of such tender years, with age comes, knowledge, wisdom, & experience, in addition, as I continue to engage upon the healing of my injury due to the exhaustive research of which has been aforementioned in this thread, I have contemplated upon the possibilities that abound in regard to realizing the writing of a novel concerning the theories and hypothisis of the phenominum of "The Gryphin Position" which was brought foreward with the now known existance of the "Circle the Wagons" disclosure. Ahhh, the research for such a book would be emence let alone the revenues.
In closing GT,, say what you want youngster, but remember this, "THE TWINKLE" IS STILL THERE http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

just some ideas mac

mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 08:15 AM

In addition to SJ's addition to our little Graemilin friends, what other ones, would everyone like to see??????

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just some ideas mac

Growltigga

March 1st, 2002, 10:58 AM

Right, I have just been told that March is a write-off for me from having any life outside work so waiting for gold will be a good idea

My spin on this

medium size galaxy - fine if this means 100 planets
three starting planets - awww... can't we just start with 1, I can never think what to call 3 homeworlds
low tech start - deffo
5000 racial points - how'sa about 3,000
infinate resources - definately
no ai races (then again, maybe...) - I agree with Mac (or was it guffin) the Eeee, a hive and anything bloodthirsty may let me live longer
role playing in all communication - has to be a strictly enforced pre-requisite of the game
star destroyers - no, I am a member of the sierra club
all warp pints connected - what sense does it make to have isolated systems??
type of galaxy - I like clusters, grid is pretty cool as well
what sort of game do we want? anything simple

As a point of principle, any game involving the G&G possee (ie regular contributors to this thread) should be heavily role played

I expect Grphyin to play a race of noble, proud, honorourable and sensitive people prone to wearing furry fellahs
I expect Mac to play a race of grumpy old tosspots miserable because they have lost their haemmorroid cream
I expect Saxon to play a race of hard working imperialistic despots
I expect Phoenix D to play a race of short wearing misogynistic androgonous female-offending humanoids
I expect Tesco to play a bunch of moose kissing dictatorial thread pushing types
I expect Mephisto to go eee-aaawwww all the time
you expect me to play a race of intelligent, sophisticated, suave and debonaire geniuses

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Growltigga

March 1st, 2002, 11:00 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
In closing GT,, say what you want youngster, but remember this, "THE TWINKLE" IS STILL THERE<hr></blockquote>

Mac, turn up your hearing aid and listen to this

THE TWINKLE MAY STILL BE THERE BUT CAN YOU REMEMBER WHAT TO DO WITH IT??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Saxon

March 1st, 2002, 01:18 PM

Hard working imperialist despot? Tigga, that has to be the nicest thing anyone has said to me this year! My only concern is that it will not really be role playing for me. Anyway, sorry about March.

Phoenix D has stepped forward to host the match, which is befitting of his rank of General. Thank you!

Since I now have to order Gold, can anyone suggest another good Shrapnel game? Postage and handling is expensive and the same for two games. Armies of Armageddon is a dud.

Gryphin

March 1st, 2002, 03:34 PM

Folks did you catch this post:
Growltigless may be right,
posted 31 October 2001 14:56
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"CAP, tks for clearing up#5, you said what I meant to say, sometimes my mind races way ahead of my typing and it doesn't always come out the way I meant, tks
just some ideas mac "
I saw this in the "Beginners Guide" thread.

mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 03:45 PM

["You know trouble is brewin..QUOTE]

Now my good Tesco, with the honorable races that one shall encounter within the upcoming Universal Extravaganza, how could you emphasize that a form or conflict (trouble brewin) would possibly be initiated between races meeting for the lst time? I would like to think that they would welcome each other and formulate plans to exchange cultures and other stimuli to understand each other so co-existance among the stars and its vast resources could be accomplished. However, there could be one or two exceptions, like maybe a furry, tailed race of monsterous proportions that envisions itself as , sauve, debonair, sophisticated and let alone intelligent http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Or a race that has a somewhat symbiote relationship with a small, little eared, furball, which incorporates some alien ritual during mating season and attaches itself to the hosts outer anatamy. One must wonder, what one shall meet out in the far reaches of the unknown. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

just some ideas mac

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mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 03:58 PM

GT, are you serious, Lawyers over there only make that much, that's unbelievable. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Is that the same all over Europe? I would have thought they made a lot more then that. Is there any reason they are so low paid and does that include private practice? (just curious) I agree, the disparity between them stinks,

just some ideas mac

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mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 04:08 PM

Ahh Gryphin, yes sometimes my somewhat extrodinare mind tends to race foreward at times in opposition to my feeble attempts at typing and what the two of them come up with in the process can leave one wondering, just what the #%#%%^ I meant in the first place. However, this is not do to age, as I'm sure our esteme associate might be tempted to mention or point out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif , but is the association of one who dabbles in scientific research with continuous hypothisis and theories wondering around inside for contemplation behind the whys and what-nots of the universe. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

(besides, its getting harder to read the small print at my age, just need stronger reading glasses) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

just some ideas mac

mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 04:38 PM

Game consensus so far, please add your comments and recommendations... we have some time to put it together..

Phoenix, tks for volunteering to host, appreciate it, also, for you and the others who have played the demo, what new or revamped parts should we look at in the Gold in relation to our upcoming game?

Pls vote or give your recommendations or additions

Size
Type of Map
Racial Points
AI players yes/no
# of planets
Tech starting levels
# of starting planets
Role Playing Races yes/no
all warp points connected yes/no
Numb of hour turns (example only, 24hr, 48hr etc)
Any restrictions or whatever you feel should be or not to be included in the game, example only,
star destroyers - no,

just some ideas mac

Growltigga

March 1st, 2002, 04:47 PM

Size = 255 systems to let guffin breathe a bit
Type of Map = I like clusters
Racial Points = 2000
AI players yes/no = limited empires only
# of planets = lots
Tech starting levels = low
# of starting planets = 1
Role Playing Races yes/no = YESSSSS
all warp points connected yes/no = YES
Numb of hour turns (example only, 24hr, 48hr etc)=48 hour
Any restrictions or whatever you feel should be or not to be included in the game, example only,
star destroyers - no, = no star destroyers, no-one over the age of 50

mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 04:57 PM

Tesco, I have no problem if your friends what to join in, I'll go along with what everyone else says.

GT,
"no one over the age of 50", isn't this a form of discrimination due to age? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Just becaue I have reached beyond the half century mark doesn't mean I'm ahh, well, just a minute, the thought was there but it got away, oh, there it is, I'm not senile yet....... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

just some ideas mac

Gryphin

March 1st, 2002, 05:14 PM

My Take III:
Size = 255 planets (because GrowlTiggless thinks I need it)
Type of Map - I Like Cluster
Racial Points - 2000
AI players yes/no - Yes so others can join later. Maybe an agreement between us to only defend agaist them.
# of planets - Lots more
Tech starting levels - Low, (Make Tigless learn the hard way)
# of starting planets - One
Role Playing Races yes/no - If you don't, I'll be foreced to declare war
all warp points connected yes/no - Yes
Numb of hour turns (example only, 24hr, 48hr etc) - Does this mean the time allotted to take turn? If so, 24 and allowing for extenuating circumstances
Any restrictions or whatever you feel should be or not to be included in the game, example only,
star destroyers - no,
People with "smbiotic lifeforms" about their lips get extra racial points
People who wear large shiney belt buckles get additional racial points
People whos dates / wives post here get 1000 extra per poster
All of the above are cumulative

Growltigga

March 1st, 2002, 06:51 PM

Hmmm, Gryphin, I thought you liked Custer, not Cluster...

...and as for big shiny belt buckles??

Anyway, I concur with the majority of your options list save for the Last section, which should be deleted in full and replaced with the following

lawyers get an automatic 10,000 points
canadians get an automatic 2,000 points and their choice of moose wearing lipstick
anyone over 50 gets 1,000 points and a haemorroid ring
mephisto gets a carrot

Growltigga

March 1st, 2002, 06:55 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
GT, are you serious, Lawyers over there only make that much, that's unbelievable. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Is that the same all over Europe? I would have thought they made a lot more then that. Is there any reason they are so low paid and does that include private practice? (just curious) I agree, the disparity between them stinks,]<hr></blockquote>

Well Mac, we do begin to earn a respectable amount more the more experienced we get but generally, lawyers in europe DO NOT earn anything like what US lawyers earn, nor to we charge anything like what US lawyers dfo - it is probably why european lawyers are a little bit more respectedd in the community than their US counterparts

it is what makes us so lovable http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

tesco samoa

March 1st, 2002, 07:15 PM

That should have been respected in their community.

Also in NYC it costs 100 dollars just to use the john.

All comes down to cost of living and experience.

And in the NYC if you spit out of a building your bound to hit a lawyer.

I believe this is due to the fact that the C.H.U.D.'s became unemployeed in the late 80's and decided that the profession of law was the way to go.

Unfortantly none of them read Hart or Holmes and the who ideology of 'Positive law' fell out the window.....

Joking aside.

size = 100 to 255 systems
map = ancient
Racial Points = 3000 or 5000
AI= NO
Tech = low
# of planets = 1
role playing = yes enforced = only demeanors.
colonize = all planet types
warp points connected = not connected ( the one where there are not many warp points but some )
restrictions = no PPP, ship capture or communications mimic.
Star destroyers etc.... == yes, protect your systems and suns.....
time for turns 48 hours at the beginning with the ability for the gamemaster to alter this time for certain instances.....
intel = yes

game === standard no mods...

Growltigga

March 1st, 2002, 07:23 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
And in the NYC if you spit out of a building your bound to hit a lawyer.
<hr></blockquote>

well, if you hit me, I would sue you out of principle - unlike US courts tho, in England you would probably get damages of �50, your dry cleaning paid for and an apology unlike the $500,000 you would get paid in a US court for trauma

Gryphin

March 1st, 2002, 07:45 PM

tesco,
any particular reason for these settings? Is this how you play against the AI?
Note: GT - Gryphins Take
colonize = all planet types
GT -Makes it too easy
warp points connected = not connected ( the one where there are not many warp points but some )
GT -I think since we have several new players this is not a good idea
restrictions = no PPP, ship capture or communications mimic.
GT -I really belive thees should be included. Asking them to be ommitted tells me something of your play style.
Star destroyers etc.... == yes, protect your systems and suns.....
GT -It would add a dimension to the game. Again with novice players (like myself), I would like them ommited. I also don't belive in them on philosiphical grounds. Yes, this is only a game. You can be sure The Gryphins would never build such a monstrosity and would declare war on any that did. If they are included in the game make sure you take ma out first, (if you are able).

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mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 09:03 PM

In regards to PBEM or PBW, since I have never had the chance to partake in either, what basically is the difference in regards to playing and what equipment is necessary in order to play either one? As I humbly admitted earlier post, I'm a newbie in this regard and before committing to the type, I would just like to know the differences. Its the age thing again you know, as one ages gracefully, modestly, and most humbly, the mind is slow to pick up on things but, everything else STILL WORKS..(GT) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac

mac5732

March 1st, 2002, 09:15 PM

M'Lady Fyre, Tis with sorrow that I read you would be unable to enjoin yourself within the upcoming bash of planets with all the accompanying mayhem that the universe has never seen on such a galactic scope before, however, do stop in and feel free to comment and join in on any roleplaying banter in this thread inregards to same.

PS. I'd make the old Gryphin take you out to dinner or let him do the cooking, I'm sure you could do with the rest and relaxation. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

your most humble servant mac

Phoenix-D

March 1st, 2002, 10:42 PM

"In regards to PBEM or PBW, since I have never had the chance to partake in either, what basically is the difference in regards to playing and what equipment is necessary in order to play either one?"

Equipment? Nothing special. Just go to the PBW web site and it will explain things..

On restrictions:
I don't like "house rule" restrictions. Basiclly, if it's in the game I WILL use it.

Now, if you want these things out that bad, I'll make up a quick mod, take them out, and run the turns manually. 100% fair, no accusations of doing an end-run around the rules, etc.

I'd also put in a vote for warp points anywhere in the system

Phoenix-D

Gryphin

March 1st, 2002, 10:58 PM

Phoenix D
That works for me. I like warp points anywhere in system. It sorta makes it unpredictable and it is easyier on supplys if you plan it right.

tesco samoa

March 1st, 2002, 11:08 PM

to tigga

I would counter for trama due to the fact my spit was interrupted on its travel....

to gryphin.

The reason I mention ppp, ship capture and comm mimic is because these things don't work very well and are alittle unbalanced.... But if we want them we will use them...
Don't get me wrong I like intel.... I use it alot.

On the star destroyers... all you do is lock down your systems and protect your sun.. A couple star bases should do it with the system grav shielding device...

I agree with Phoenix-d once we figure out what we want.

Set everything up at the beginning and use it.

Worst case is the mod but pbem can handle it.

Warp points anywhere===yes.

When we get closer to starting the game we can start a new thread on the game......That way everyone can see what were doing...

Whoever is going to run the game can determine how to set up the parameters of the game....

I will play what ever the rules are.

P.S. the best way to learn about sun destroyers is to get hit by one....

Also what about random events....

I would like the system destroying one turned off so perhaps a low-low combo ????

That one has ruined many a game.... and it is cheezy... you can build stars and destroy them but you cannot stop them from being destroyed... go figure....

Mac.... In the mail yesterday I received a bottle of hot sauce... yep it went to Hockey town usa ( DET. MI) and then they sent it to me.... I asked at the Canadian post office what was up and they said it was a mistake, and shipped it to the return address. So I am sending it again next week.....

Phoenix-D

March 1st, 2002, 11:41 PM

"Worst case is the mod but pbem can handle it."

No need for that. PBW can handle any mods.. you just need to run the turn manually. I can handle that.

Phoenix-D

tesco samoa

March 2nd, 2002, 01:07 AM

out of everyone playing who has played multi player.

I have played 4 games now.

I have only lost 1 (turn 66
I have only won 2 (turn 235
and one of them ended with 2 players winning (turn 170)
and one just sort of stopped half way (turn 88)

I am currently involved in a long one right now. Turn 125 with no end in site.

I never finished a single solo game. Longest I made it was around turn 400 or so.

So my multi player experence would still be classified as novice for seiv.

tesco samoa

March 2nd, 2002, 02:14 AM

right now were sitting with 8 people if you want the two extra pbem players I play with.

I think that is enough unless more non -ai types join. The ai is just a punching bag. So lets leave them at the solo games.....

That way when you meet someone you know trouble is a brewin'....

Which is better than... ai.... ok.

Growltigga

March 2nd, 2002, 02:27 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Saxon:
Hard working imperialist despot? Tigga, that has to be the nicest thing anyone has said to me this year! My only concern is that it will not really be role playing for me. Anyway, sorry about March.

Phoenix D has stepped forward to host the match, which is befitting of his rank of General. Thank you!

Since I now have to order Gold, can anyone suggest another good Shrapnel game? Postage and handling is expensive and the same for two games. Armies of Armageddon is a dud.<hr></blockquote>

Your welcome Saxon, I was trying to be nice after all and you do have my sympathies for not having a holiday

Phoenix D, I take it all back, you are a scholar and a gentleman sir

Yeah, I will have to order gold as well though cripes knows when I am going to get a chance to play it - most of the time I have a lap top- posting on the forum is fine, loading games on is a huge work no-no

On a separate thing, Mac keep in mind that you never see a poor american lawyer - that is true - us europeans do not earn a third as much, for example,

starting salary in New York for a newly trained lawyer at a top firm = $130,000 plus bonus
starting salary in London for a newly trained lawyer at a top firm = $35,000-40,000
starting salary in Manchester for a newly trained lawyer at a top firm = $23,000-28,000

scary differentials there

Gryphin

March 2nd, 2002, 02:49 AM

My Take II:
GT, I expect you to play,
Rats, just got a call, I'll edit this later

mac5732

March 2nd, 2002, 05:52 AM

Phoenix, reason I commented on restrictions was because on all the sites where they talk about PBW an PBEM it seems there is always some kind of argument going on over rules. We don't want that in our game, its supposed to be a fun thing, As far as I'm concerned, whatever is in the game should be allowed, unless there is one thing that everyone agrees on not to let in. We just have to basically pick the parameters for the set up in regards to traits, systems, planets, etc. unless someone really does not want something particular.

Tesco, wondered what happened to sauce, thought maybe security got it as possible terrorist threat, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif In regards to multi player, as I stated before, I've never played PBW or PBEM before, BUT, I have played Hot Seat numerous times in SE4 and other games. In regards to SE4 I'm on my 4th hotseat game. won 1, lost 2 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif no respect for the aged, sigh. currently in bad position, my worlds scattered all over the place, and currently at war with Crystals and Cue Cuppa, both AI's. treaty with 2 human, haven't met the others yet. I have played 1 SP game all the way out just to see the ending. Wasn't impressed, nothing as to what I expected, drab in fact. Not worth the time just to see the ending..

Can't wait to start the game, if I Last 50 turns, my imperial navy shall endeavor to transcend the spaceways, looking for the Fountin of Youth, Alien artifacts, collecting specimans of Wolly Bears with little ears and wearing small Custer hats, to obtain furry tigga tails, to enlighten the settled universe of their lost and misguided ways, and to seek the secret of the "Circle the Wagons, better known as the "Gryphin Position",
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just some ideas mac

Saxon

March 2nd, 2002, 11:18 AM

Size = medium (if we go big we need more starting planets or we will have a very slow start)
Type of Map = anything except ancient (I want my empire to be filled with lush systems)
Racial Points = 2000
AI players yes/no = no, they smell funny
# of planets = lots
Tech starting levels = low
# of starting planets = three (more to do in the early turns)
Role Playing Races yes/no = yes
all warp points connected yes/no = yes
Numb of hour turns (example only, 24hr, 48hr etc) = 48 (24 is just too quick, I have to get the turns home)
Any restrictions or whatever you feel should not to be included in the game = sarcasim, leivety and humour
Turn random events off, they are evil
Warp points anywhere are fun

mac5732

March 4th, 2002, 08:17 PM

Med size sounds ok, but with 8 or more players do you think we should go to large?

just some ideas mac

Gryphin

March 4th, 2002, 09:06 PM

My Take IV:
Medium could be good or bad depending on who your naeighbors were. For example, If Growltigless was on my Southern flank, and mac was on my Eastern borders, I'm sure mac would join me in taking out GrowlTigless untill there was only me and him left then < cue theme from Highlander > "There can be only one".
I like medium.

mac5732

March 4th, 2002, 09:45 PM

Now, my good Gryphin, the Imperialistic, Psychotic, Scientists of the Tkachik Empire, are peace loving, lovable, cuddly, warm, tender, open minded, creatures who want nothing more then the pursuit of scientific research as previously put foreward earlier in this thread. We wish nothing more then to expand our influence throughout all of space to further our goal of knowledge, which includes researching weapons of mass hysteria, training our ground forces in planet appreciation,
and instructing our peaceful occupation units on the finesse of instilling the proper worship of our mighty minds by those inferior beings upon whom we are forced to take under our umbrella of kindness and fortitude. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

(PS. my race is open to Bribes, uhh I mean, offers of intellectual exchanges of resources, tech, money, etc)

By the way, where is the young skally wag, GT? Is he off traveling the the byways of those sit down cafe's, sipping suds and admiring the bouncing sites again???? hmmmmm, He has been awful quiet, not like him.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

I'll try and get a re-cap of everyone's votes and comments sometime this week and post here so we can make some decisions on the upcoming Universal Space Bashing.

just some ideas mac

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