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June 2nd, 2021, 12:41 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Australia LAND 400 UPDATE:
STATUS: Still in coordinated Manufacturers Trials w/Army.
Australian Army receives first 25 LANCER BOXER's. DON'T GET TOO EXCITED.
QOUTE: "Delivery of the first 25 vehicles enables Army to continue towards Initial Operating Capability on schedule as Rheinmetall moves into the next phase of the LAND 400 Phase 2 program."
If the HAWKIE Program is an indication on how the evaluation process will go, we're looking at 2-3 years for FOC earliest.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._vehicles.html
Gotta Go!!
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June 5th, 2021, 01:34 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Well another update I saw coming but, wish it wouldn't have happened to a program that's ALREADY 4 YEARS BEHIND schedule. I speak of AJAX and quite frankly this is nothing less than embarrassing especially in blaming France for the UK problems with their CITW 40mm when it was the UK that deviated from the loading system design. That I posted on earlier this year in this thread and now again this issue has popped up...
https://www.army-technology.com/news...-safety-risks/
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/m...x-b938510.html
IOC in 2021 well in my opinion, good luck with that!?!
I've got a beautiful bridge in NYC I'm selling called the " Brooklyn Bridge" for anyone interested!?!
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June 5th, 2021, 04:26 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
British procurement "strategy" in the last few decades has been utterly and totally abysmal. You would think it was a script from "Yes Minister" but unfortunately it is actuality, not a comedy show. Oh - perhaps it is meant to be a comedy show!
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June 5th, 2021, 08:21 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Not being able to go faster than 20MPH is a problem as is not being able to back up over an 8 inch "obstacle"
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June 5th, 2021, 01:08 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Is this vehicle modeled in the German OOB? It's called the Mungo. I didn't see it unless it's called something else in game terms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mungo_ESK
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June 5th, 2021, 01:24 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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Not being able to go faster than 20MPH is a problem as is not being able to back up over an 8 inch "obstacle"
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How does something like that only come to light now, its staggering.
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June 5th, 2021, 06:46 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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What is similar and ( sort of .....) serves the same purpose is the Rheinmetall Yak U323 look for MRAV APC in Misc starting 2006
https://www.bundeswehr.de/de/ausrues...wehr/duro3-yak
calls it the Duro 3 Yak
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June 7th, 2021, 09:27 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
UPDATE: UK BOXER
STATUS: Preparatory to construction of first PROTOTYPES.
WHEN: Late 2022. First type will be the Mechanized Infantry Version ( MIV) coming from Germany. This will be the precursor of a follow on order for 500 BOXER's in if I remember 4 variants.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...tall_plan.html
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June 17th, 2021, 12:58 AM
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UPDATE: French JAGUAR
Status: French Army has just begun their evaluation of the JAGUAR. The evaluation is being conducted by STAT ( Section Technique de l’ Armée de Terre, Technical Section of the Ground Force).
Analysis: It appears the " manufacturers" testing is now complete or winding down. No further timeline is given. I'm thinking this phase will last about a year. At the end of this it'll go back to NEXTER to make any fixes or modifications the French Army identifies.
At that point we can discuss IOC-MAYBE. I don't believe it's intended to reach FOC much before mid-2023 or first half of 2024.
The pictures are worth the " price of admission" especially the first inside turret view and the " slat armor" which makes me wonder, is the armor protection not as good as thought!?! These are the first pictures I've seen of the JAGUAR running around with that attached.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...e_vehicle.html
UPDATE for UK AJAX. There's "A whole lotta shaken goin on here!!",
this from the 9th...
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n...us-ajax-issues
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June 18th, 2021, 08:11 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Borsuk APC
Poland nearly finishing tests of new domestic APC [Badger] build by HSW which will be replacement for old BWP-1. As for now three prototypes are build and last was tested during exercises Dragon-21. Borsuk will have new local build turret unmanned ZSSW-30 which is also projected to be used on Rosomak APC equipped in 30mm Mk44S Bushmaster II chain gun, 7.62mm UKM-2000C coaxial machine gun and Spike ATGM launcher in box on right side.
Rosomak with ZSSW030
https://i.imgur.com/Es7B8Qh.jpg
Borsuk is indeed to be introduced in year 2023/2024 to army and manufactured by Huta Stalowa Wola HSW.
link to some photos
https://www.defence24.pl/borsuk-na-dragonie-21
English language video about this vehicle and intended versions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oRG...e=emb_imp_woyt
Nice video showing Borsuk in movment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
Here ZSSW-30 on Rosomak firing Spikes from tower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRedOnY24pk
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