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Old May 3rd, 2007, 02:20 AM

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Default Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals

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I was unable to find a comprehensive list of which rituals were anonymous, so I'm asking if anyone can confirm any of the unknowns.

edit: So this is what it looks like so far. If anyone can think of a missed ritual that affects another nation please let me know, or if there are any incorrect listings.

Anonymous:
Hurricane
Dispel
Fires from Afar
Rain of toads
Leprosy
Wolven winter
Locust swarms
Raging Hearts
Seeking Arrow
Baleful Star
Blight
Black Death
Phantasmal attack - no flag
Tidal Wave
Volcanic eruption
Earth Attack
Send lesser horror
Send Horror
Vengeance of the dead - if MR check is made
Ghost riders
Flames from the sky
Murdering winter
Mind Hunt
Melancholia
crumble
Fate of Oedipus
Horror Seed
Beckoning
Infernal Disease

Identifiable:
Imprint souls
Call of the wild
call of winds
Arouse hunger
Horde from hell
Army of the dead
Angelic Host
Send Tupilak
Carrion Reanimation
Vengeance of the dead - If MR check fails
Wind ride - If successful
Wish
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Old May 3rd, 2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals

As has been previously noted, any spell that summons monsters which stick around -- including Carrion Animation and Angelic Host -- is not anonymous. Spells which summon 'Special Monsters' -- horrors, earth elementals -- are unflagged. 'Send Tupilak' is obvious, because there's only one nation which can cast it.

A successful 'Vengeance of the Dead' is, if memory serves, a flagged attack -- if the MR check is made, it's anonymous, but the battle resulting from a failed check is not.


Spells which cause pure damage or other effects not causing a battle, are always anonymous -- to a point. The quirk is that you can get some information from the effect of a damaging dome, if memory serves.
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Thanks Taqwus - so does that mean that pretty much all the remaining "unsure" are all anonymous?
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Well, if Wind ride is successful then you can be pretty sure who cast it. But I guess you mean if the attempt was unsuccesful.
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Default Re: Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals

Similarly, if you Wish for provinces, the other players won't know who cast the wish but they WILL know who now owns the province!
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Does wind ride give any message if unsuccessful? If so, does it identify the caster?

Does Wish put out any sort of global message to the recipients or does it just take the provinces? (Possible there is a province losing activity that turn and you never see the flag).
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Default Re: Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals

Back in Dominions 1 at least Vengeance of the Dead was fully anonymous. The monsters that attacked were Special Monsters - the player who casted it didn't have control over them. It was more like Manifestation (anonymous) and Earth Attack (anonymous) rather than a regular Assassination attempt (not anonymous).

Flames from the Sky and Murdering Winter are anonymous.

Mind Hunt is anonymous.

I'm pretty sure Melancholia is anonymous, too.
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Default Re: Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals

maybe Leprosy is anonymous too
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Default Re: Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals

Pretty much.

Anything that resembles a random event already in the game, shows up as that event. Nobody gets blamed for disease outbreaks, or even strange things like flames falling from the heavens...

Even when Mind Hunt -fails- because the caster's silver cord got severed, it doesn't tell you who the caster was.
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Default Re: Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals

People will eventually realize that someone bombards them with anonymous spells though because if you get a hurricane on your capitol and your most valuable provinces every or every 2nd turn it is very unlikely that it is a random event.
Usually you can then find out which player most likely used those rituals on you.
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