What if Trampling units used their weapons...

[Nerfix]

...at the end of their attack? Discuss.

[mivayan]

eater of the dead and various minutaurs would be a lot more usefull. get tired quicker too probably.

[DominionsFan]

Sounds interesting. I can definitely imagine about a minotaur running accross the battlefield, trampling his enemies, and meanwhile chopping some heads off with his axe.

However it would be a bit overpowered I guess. ^^

[Teraswaerto]

I'm not sure trampling is that great at the moment, in most cases.

It might be too good for some units but they could be given weaker attacks or something.

[Nerfix]

Teraswaerto said:
I'm not sure trampling is that great at the moment, in most cases.

It might be too good for some units but they could be given weaker attacks or something.

What would those units be?

[TomD]

I think that the problem is not about units with the trampling ability (who could always be tweaked a little to balance up if necessary) but for heroes who gain it through an item. If Boots of the Behemoth gave you trample without affecting any of your existing attacks they'd be a real no-brainer. At the moment it's often a tough choice depending on the opponents you face.

Maybe there should be a penalty to attack skill to represent tripping over all those little bodies...

[Teraswaerto]

What would those units be?

Don't really know, chariots maybe? The point was that while there may be units that would become too good for their current cost if they are allowed both attack and trample, I think the idea of letting tramplers also attack with weapons is good.

[Nerfix]

TomD said:
I think that the problem is not about units with the trampling ability (who could always be tweaked a little to balance up if necessary) but for heroes who gain it through an item. If Boots of the Behemoth gave you trample without affecting any of your existing attacks they'd be a real no-brainer. At the moment it's often a tough choice depending on the opponents you face.

Maybe there should be a penalty to attack skill to represent tripping over all those little bodies...

Not really a no-brainer, good, yes, but few things are no-brainers. Diving into a mass of enemies can present some nasty drawbacks, and there are other nice boots such as Brimstone Boots, Boots of Quickness etc etc.

Still, attack penalty would be a good idea incase Tramplers could use their weapons.

[Maltrease]

In Dom2 I thought that Trampling units DID use their weapons. That is until after my surprise attack of 10 fully decked out golems (with the winged armor that adds trample) were slaughtered by the very SC's they were specifically kitted to destroy because they just tried to trample the banelords instead of attacking and likely winning the battle in 2 rounds.

[KissBlade]

Well if trampling units could use their weapons, those trampling minotaurs might actually be worth it, that's for sure. nobles too. =\