New Heroic Abilities

[Leif_-]

These suggestions for new heroic abilities are perhaps not quite serious.

Horrific Halitosis -- Gives the commander a poison cloud.
Celebrated Clumsiness -- Gets decreased precision and attack, but gains trample and a pillage bonus. ("Whoops. Sorry. I didn't mean to do that! Sorry. Sorry. Ummm. Can someone put out the city? I didn't mean to put it on fire. Sorry about that!")
Enormous Endowments -- Gives the commander the seduce ability.
Terribly Thick-headed -- Increase morale, decreases leadership and adds protection value to the head.
Tragically Hip -- Gets awe and increased leadership, but loses head, feet and chest slots. ("You want me to wear what? No way, man.")
Unsung Hero -- No effect whatsoever.
Usenet Veteran -- Gains protection from fire
Really Cool Shades -- Loses helmet slot, but gains leadership and is immune to effects that cause blindness.
Apocalyptical ADHD -- Gains action-points, but has the number of orders you can assign to him reduced.
Redoubtable Chainmail Bikini -- Loses armour slot, but gains protection. If the commander is female they get awe, if male, fear.

[Nerfix]

XD LOL.

Heretic Smiter Smite does +5 damage versus enemy sacred units and gets a penetration bonus. Only for 3 holy priests
Powerful PreacherGets a preaching bonus. Words of Power gets a penetration bonus.
Achieved ArsonistThis legendary fire mage gets a bonus to fire resistance and a pillage bonus
Order-keeping OverlordThis hero gets a Patrol Bonus
Blind-FighterThe hero gets Darkvision value that grows over the time spent in HoF...and eventually the hero gets the Blind attribute, meaning that he is immune to the effects of eyeloss
Ravaging RotThis legendary undead monster is known for it's terrifying putrescence. The undead hero gains a Plage Cloud
Specialist ReanimatorOver the years this priest has become more and more proficient in the art of reanimation. Bonus to Reanimation
Legendary SacrificerThis foul priest has sacrified countless of virgins on the temples of his/her god. Gains Fear and a bonus to blood sacrifice.
Legendary DevotionThis priest is known for his/her unrelenting devotion to his/her faith. Gains +1 to Holy magic and a bonus to morale

[thekossack]

Here is a new one (I think);

Heroic Stupidity - Virtually every combat stat goes up, but leadership is halved.

I had a commander with 40 troops earn this, and oddly, he retained like 35 troops, but couldnt receive any more.

[st.patrik]

this one was new to me when I noticed it the other day:

[Cainehill]

Nerfix said:
Heretic Smiter Smite does +5 damage versus enemy sacred units and gets a penetration bonus. Only for 3 holy priests
Powerful PreacherGets a preaching bonus. Words of Power gets a penetration bonus.
Achieved ArsonistThis legendary fire mage gets a bonus to fire resistance and a pillage bonus
Order-keeping OverlordThis hero gets a Patrol Bonus
Blind-FighterThe hero gets Darkvision value that grows over the time spent in HoF...and eventually the hero gets the Blind attribute, meaning that he is immune to the effects of eyeloss
Ravaging RotThis legendary undead monster is known for it's terrifying putrescence. The undead hero gains a Plage Cloud
Specialist ReanimatorOver the years this priest has become more and more proficient in the art of reanimation. Bonus to Reanimation
Legendary SacrificerThis foul priest has sacrified countless of virgins on the temples of his/her god. Gains Fear and a bonus to blood sacrifice.
Legendary DevotionThis priest is known for his/her unrelenting devotion to his/her faith. Gains +1 to Holy magic and a bonus to morale

Hey Nerfix, these ones are _good_ and would be awesome in the game, when/if heroic abilities have some tie to the type of character getting them.

[Nerfix]

Thanks Cainehil. Some of those are from my incomplete list of "Commander experience abilities". I had the idea that every star of exp for a commander would allow you to redeem a Commander Ability for a commander, stuff like +1 to holy level when preaching at low levels and more powerful stuff at higher levels. Heroes would get to redeem a Hero Ability when they enter the HoF.

In the idea there are two types of commander abilities, common ones and then ones tied to the skills the commander has.

[NTJedi]

Leif_- said:

Horrific Halitosis -- Gives the commander a poison cloud.

It would have to include poison immunity otherwise it's a curse that will kill the commander. It's not always easy for any nation to pull a commander with a new heroic ability from the front lines and equip him/her/it with an item of poison immunity.

Leif_- said:
Enormous Endowments -- Gives the commander the seduce ability.

Useless unless the commander already has stealth which is rare. This ability would have to include seduce and stealth together if it's going to ever work.

Leif_- said:
Really Cool Shades -- Loses helmet slot, but gains leadership and is immune to effects that cause blindness.
Redoubtable Chainmail Bikini -- Loses armour slot, but gains protection. If the commander is female they get awe, if male, fear.

These lose body slot traits can be painful if the commander is wearing a valuable item such as a robe of invunerability or possibly a unique artifact such as the vineman crown because even when a unit changes form any vanished slots with equipment are lost.

[Gandalf Parker]

Logisitics Officer
movement is cut but so is the supplies cost of the army

Careful Commander
Combat rating is lowered but so is chances of afflictions or diseases

Scavenger
inceased chance of recovering items after a battle

Combat Mage
all magic paths increase by one during combat (like that shield)

[paradoxharbinger]

Whirlwind
number of attacks doubled attacks, attack skill halved

Precise Combat
number of attacks halved, attack skill +25%, melee damage +25%

[Endoperez]

Gandalf Parker said:
Logisitics Officer
movement is cut but so is the supplies cost of the army

Careful Commander
Combat rating is lowered but so is chances of afflictions or diseases

Scavenger
inceased chance of recovering items after a battle

Combat Mage
all magic paths increase by one during combat (like that shield)

Logistics officer: I'd suggest supply bonus 150, increases by 50, and increased leadership.

Careful commander: in addition to that, add Standard effect. Too weak. Something else should be added.

Scavenger - he's too easy to screw over. If he has items, he can't find more. If he doens't, your enemies will send in Daggers of the Damned etc.

Combat Mage: very powerful from the very beginning. It can't scale. It doesn't add encumberance as the Crystal Shield or fatique as casting Power of the Spheres. Perhaps it'd start with an encumberance penalty that slowly goes down?

paradoxharbinger said:
Whirlwind
number of attacks doubled attacks, attack skill halved

Precise Combat
number of attacks halved, attack skill +25%, melee damage +25%

Currently Heroic Quickness, and Heroic Strength/Heroic Prowess.