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Old October 3rd, 2006, 06:02 AM

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Default The Modder\'s Wishlist

I think it's a good idea to start this wishlist, since as we know, the devs will support the modders in the upcoming patches.


[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/PointRight.gif[/img] The ability to change spell names and descriptions.

Why is this important? Until we can't change these 2 things, we cannot modify the existing summoning spells + national summons properly. In the vanilla game, we can change the monster what will be summoned, however the spell name and description will be the same, since we cannot change those.
[[If you don't get it...Example: Summoning spell: Iron Dragon
We would like to change this spell, so it will summon trolls instead. When we cast the spell it will summon trolls, however the spell name will be "Iron Dragon" still, and the description will show that we gonna summon a dragon, not trolls. Once we can change the spell name to Summon Trolls, and change the description, that the spell will summon trolls and not a dragon, everything will be perfect.]]
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Old October 3rd, 2006, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: The Modder\'s Wishlist

* It isn't possible to add new national spells that have to be researched. The old #school and #research don't allow for that.

* It isn't possible to make sites that let everyone recruit the units. #com and #mon commands are needed in addition to #homecom and #homemon.

* All modding commands need #clear or similar command. Few examples:
#clear for weapons:
A sling can be cleared and redone so that it deals -2 damage, with strength added, instead of 9 damage with no str. Currently, it isn't possible to remove #nostr from a weapon.
#clear for sites:
National sites can be redone, e.g. to change Early Age Golden Era Arcos so that only Mage Engineers are restricted to capital while Engineers can be recruited anywhere.

* Scenario-type maps sometimes need more changes than the map commands allow. There should be a map command for a required mod that has to be enabled to play the map. The mod should be automatically enabled when a new game is created for the map, and error message should be shown if the mod isn't present.

* It should be possible to find out numbers of magic sites. That'd let us change national magic sites to e.g. add new national commanders. There are still sites with same names across the different eras of the same nation. The same for items, too!

* Age-restricted mods that don't affect games of other ages would make it easy to have more national spells in one age, especially if/when spell name and description modding are implemented. Example:
Mod that only works in Early Age could add a new nation that is given spells for summoning Tomb Oracles and Wailing Ladies that have very little to do with the Agarthan and Ermorian units of later ages.


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#insanity is missing. Hey, insanity is fun...
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Old October 5th, 2006, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: The Modder\'s Wishlist

Well, since there's a modder's wishlist, I might as well link you up to [url=http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB74&Number=393960&fpart= &PHPSESSID=]This fabulous thread (the Mod Command Brainstom thread)[url]
It started way back in 23/11/05, and it features a lot of ideas that will be really cool if they were in the game.
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Old October 6th, 2006, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: The Modder\'s Wishlist

Some others ideas :

Poptypes modding (without having to edit the units in the poptype)
#selectpop [number]
#clearpop
#addpop [unitid/name]
#addcommander [unitid/name]

Commands to change the effects of experience (ex :
#xplevel 1 -> the following lines apply to the one star level
#hp=1 -> +1 hp
#str=2 -> + 2 strength
etc...)

(http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...b=5&o=&fpart=1)
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Old October 6th, 2006, 02:52 PM

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Since it doesn't seem to be implented (yet), I would like:

[*] Mod Command to make extra effects from any spell.

I can copy stats frm an animist or an Ivy King to get extra Vine Ogres, but sometimes I want a character who makes extra effects from Crossbreeding, or Summer Lions, or even Magma Bolts. Any # effects spell should be a potential for a specialist to cast with extra effects.

[*] All Freespawn options should be open.

I would like to be able to freespawn things in castles, I would like to be able to freespawn things in areas with high dominon, I would like to be able to freespawn things in areas of high luck... etc. I know the code supports it because there are factions that do that (mostly R'lyeh and Ermor).

[*] Undead options should be moddable.

Longdead Giants and longdead C'tisians are a good start, but I want a chance to make longdead giant rats or longdead ant people. When you're making a non-human race, the ability to throw in ome appropriate longdead should be in there.

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Old October 11th, 2006, 11:29 PM

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Default Re: The Modder\'s Wishlist

I know there is far more that is wanted than can actually be added, but here are some commands I would find extremely useful:



Spell Modding

#name

#description

#effectsnmbr - Sets number of effects for a spell.

#dmg - Sets the damage a spell does

#mrneagtes - Sets if a spell is effected by mr, input of 0 would be not at all, 1 would be neagated, 2 would be easily negated.

#aoe - Sets aoe for a spell.

#range - Sets range for spell.

#copyspell - This would create a new spell with the same basic function as the one it is based on. In this way you could for instance make a new summoning spell to bind large numbers serpent fiends at once, or make an area of effect blink.



Monster Modding

#scalesensitive - Sets scale which unit is sensitive too (such as ice devils with cold/heat).

#senseamount - Sets severity of sensitivity from the #scalesensitive command.



Commander Modding

#summonallies - First number would set number of units to summon, second number would set monster number of units to summon.



Site Modding

#clearsite

#entersummon - Sets number and monster number of units to be summoned when mage enters (required mage path set by base site type).

#enterritual - Sets spell to be cast when mage enters site (as in scrying spell sites).



Magic Item Modding

#mainlevel - Same as current command, but could be set to 0, causing the item to cost 1 gem (one level of the path would still be required to forge it). This would be extremely handy for dealing with some hard to balance items.

#castspell - Sets spell that can be cast by commander wielding item in battle.

#castritual - Sets ritual that can be cast as an order by commander wielding item.

#fireres - And the rest of the resists.

#mr - Can be negative.



Poptype Modding

#selectpop

#newpop

#addreccom

#addrecunit

#era

#rarity

#defcom1 - Sets first type of commander in defense of province at the start of game.

#defcom2

#defunit1 - Sets first type of troop in defense of province at the start of game.

#defunit2



Scales Modding

#drainmr - Sets amount drain/magic scale changes mr.

#drainenc - Sets amount drain/magic scale changes spell casting encumbrance.
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Default Re: The Modder\'s Wishlist

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* It should be possible to find out numbers of magic sites. That'd let us change national magic sites to e.g. add new national commanders. There are still sites with same names across the different eras of the same nation. The same for items, too!
I just found out that you can press Shift+i when viewing an item to get it's id number. So we have half of that one already!

EDIT: I also thought I was editing, not quoting, so I changed the message around.
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Default Re: The Modder\'s Wishlist

Add #communicant to the list for Therug Communicants
And I tried copysats for the communicants and it didn't work.
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Default Re: The Modder\'s Wishlist

Dominion scales in the 9-10 range do increase your ability to recruit sacred units.

That said - the dominion score of 9 combat buff is an unusual case. The price-schemes I proposed don't give a *discount* for it, but they never make it (relative to your total points) more expensive, so unless you're going to dominion 10 on a base dominion 1 god, it isn't going to have a huge impact, and I think that the mod as I proposed it would be workable.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 06:14 AM

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A few requests:

1) Suppose I want to mod a race that does not become weaker with old age, but stronger. With a switch like

#oldageeffect <parameter>

With this parameter (1 and -1?) you can set if the monster becomes stronger or weaker when ageing.

2) A fourth status for pretenders, in addition to awake - dormant - imprisoned. The fourth status would be something like banished: the god is somewhere else and happy to be there, not coming back at all. That may give you extra design points (for what? well only dominion, and magic for blessings). I'm requesting this because sometimes I would like to play just with armies vs armies, without godlike pretenders getting in the way.

3) Is #inquisitor already implemented? Apologies if i missed it.

...and more to come soon, probably.
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