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				January 8th, 2006, 06:29 AM
			
			
			
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				 Missing planes in Russian OOB? 
 Where are other Sukhoi's (than SU-17,25,47)? Or are they so "rare" used in Russian's doctrine that there is no sense to add them into OOB? |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Missing planes in Russian OOB? 
 
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		| Warhero said: Where are other Sukhoi's (than SU-17,25,47)? Or are they so "rare" used in Russian's doctrine that there is no sense to add them into OOB?
 
 |  Lets see - unit nos. 147,148 Su-24, 149-150 various Su-7, 226 su-24, 236, 242 Su-30, su-27s at 356-357, 535-538, 931,951 more Su-24s, 952 is an su-7, another su-27 flanker at 958, that should surely do the trick?.
 
NB - some of those will be SEAD planes, level bombers, coin planes etc.
 
Which particular model of Sukhoi are you missing?. 
 
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				 Re: Missing planes in Russian OOB? 
 Hmm how about SU-22,32,33 for example?  
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				 Re: Missing planes in Russian OOB? 
 
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		| Warhero said: Hmm how about SU-22,32,33 for example?
 
 |  Su-22 is an export-only version of the Su-17, you should find it in several OOBs such as Poland, Syria, Angola, Libya, GDR, to name a few.
 
The Su-32/34 is another matter, since it is apparently used in the game but under the name Su-30. Given the picture, icon and loadout I guess that they are meant to be SU-32s or 34s, but designations are still quite clouded IRL. The Su-30 is a multirole fighter as well, so could be featured in the game, but it uses the tandem-two-seater configuration rather than the side-by-side one, and has apparently not been fielded in Russia.
 
And from what I can tell, the Su-33 aka Su-27K, made a short carreer in small quantities (24 ordered) as carrier-borne fighter on the Kuznetsov. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Missing planes in Russian OOB? 
 There IS an Su-47 used as a Russian SEAD aircraft. I saw it in the purchase screen once. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Missing planes in Russian OOB? 
 One missing aircraft of interest is the MiG-25BM "Foxbat-F". It is the only dedicated SEAD aircraft produced in SU. 
 Aircraft was accepted for service in 1988 but the test programmes had been completed in 1982, so the plane would have been pressed into service earlier if the situation had demanded. Some of the MiG-25BMs survived to the 2000's remaining in airworthy condition at least to 2002. Active service of the type likely ended in the late 90's.
 
 The weapons load was four Kh-58 (AS-11 Kilter) anti-radiation missiles. The missiles were guided home by the Yaguar navigation and targeting system. MiG-25BM was also equipped with jamming systems working in the centimeter wavelenght areas.
 
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