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Old August 12th, 2010, 03:57 PM
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Default On map MLRS with big caliber -- Rate of Fire = 4 - 6 and no smoke?!

On map MLRS "MARS", "Uragan" and etc. have Rate of Fire = 4 (Uragan - USSR), 6 (MLRS, MARS - USA, Germany).

In fact this weapon first of all for a volley , instead of for shooting by single rockets !

Probably because of it is not present smoke above shooting rocket launcher.
Now these MLRS to not detect on smoke.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: On map MLRS with big caliber -- Rate of Fire = 4 - 6 and no smoke?!

All do produce smoke on firing, may not if you try firing it with only a couple of shots in the tubes.

MLRS MARS ROF 6 so shoot off the whole load in one go (2 banks of 6 shots)
Uragan ROF 4 so shoots half its load in one shot & produces smoke in its hex, needs ROF of 8 to shoot them all at once. (2 banks of 8 shots)
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Old August 13th, 2010, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: On map MLRS with big caliber -- Rate of Fire = 4 - 6 and no smoke?!

You are mistaken.

So, smoke appears if it is made shots nearby 75 - 100 % rocket.
If started 1-3 rocket - smoke is not present.

Further,
' Uragan ' at 0.0 ---> starts only 50 % rocket.

At MLRS USA with it all by way of.
2x6 Rocket RoF=6 = 95-100 % started rocket in one turn.

Result: ' Uragan ' should receive RoF=8.

Also it is desirable, that smoke appeared at all these big MLRS even after shooting 1-2 rocket.

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Default Re: On map MLRS with big caliber -- Rate of Fire = 4 - 6 and no smoke?!

My mistake you are correct to produce smoke they need to fire at least half there rockets.
If you have a call time of 0.3-0.5 that wont happen, never noticed as only on map rockets I use are short range stuff like TOS-1 & WW2 rockets & I never fire these at those call times.

May be an argument for rockets having a slightly higher ROF to allow for the fact with new FOO rules its often hard to get a call time below 0.2 even if have LOS 0.5 often does not go to 0.0 on the next hex shift.
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Default Re: On map MLRS with big caliber -- Rate of Fire = 4 - 6 and no smoke?!

MLRS USA = 1 turn (call time 0.0)--> starts all rockets

'Uragan' USSR = 1 turn (call time 0.0) --> starts 50% all rockets

RoF 'Uragan' - bug.
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Default Re: On map MLRS with big caliber -- Rate of Fire = 4 - 6 and no smoke?!

Yes I realise that was suggesting perhaps rate of fires need to be say 8 & 10 not 6 & 8 so still fire all rockets if call time is 0.1 or 0.2 at 0.5 I think it would then fire about half of its rockets.
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It's on the list to investigate

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Default Re: On map MLRS with big caliber -- Rate of Fire = 4 - 6 and no smoke?!

...or just use house rules not to employ those systems as on-map as they shoudn't be attached directly to a maneuver battalion but should be sitting safely in the rear?
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Default Re: On map MLRS with big caliber -- Rate of Fire = 4 - 6 and no smoke?!

For myself I use MLRS systems primarily as counter-battery.
If the command rating of the unit is 80+ and they're left untasked they fire pretty frequently - as long as their ammo holds out - and they tend to HURT the battery they fire against.
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Default Re: On map MLRS with big caliber -- Rate of Fire = 4 - 6 and no smoke?!

...which deprives you of the satisfaction of stalling an attack then drenching the Schwerpunkt with MLRS to cries of "die you gravy sucking pigs!".....

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