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				 Boots of the Planes and Pretender 
 Seems its not a good idea to put them on your pretender. After wearing them for a while he disappeared but is not counted as dead, so I cant summon him back.
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				 Re: Boots of the Planes and Pretender 
 
 He's  just lost in the planes... he should eventually return.   And those boots can Horror Mark your pretender so if you make anyone wear them take them off quickly after done using them.  Personally I would never use them for my pretender unless he was in danger of being killed... even then the horror mark might not be worth it depending on how long the game will last.
 
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				November 14th, 2006, 01:30 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Boots of the Planes and Pretender 
 You don't usual get doom horrors any more though, so wouldn't they be ok on an SC god that can beat a horror? Or do normal horror have horror mark attacks too? 
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				 Astral Claw. 
 Even a Lesser Horror will horror-mark you further if it hits with its Astral Claw. 
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				 Re: Astral Claw. 
 Yeah I guess it was pretty silly. I did it cause I control most of the provinces in my current game and wanted to fool around with Wish and all the artifacts. 
 So I guess I will give it some more turns and see if he finds his way back.
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		| Taqwus said: Even a Lesser Horror will horror-mark you further if it hits with its Astral Claw.
 
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	I used Send Horror and a Risen Oracle to test Astral Claw's effect after the patch. I don't remember how long it took, but it was a dozen or two turns of being killed by a Horror (in capital with very high dominion) before horrors attacks became commonplace. Even then, I seemed to get Lesser Horrors about as often as Doom Horrors. It became worse in dozen or two turns after that, with the Oracle being attacked by normal or Doom Horrors more often than not.Quote: 
	
		| Taqwus said: Even a Lesser Horror will horror-mark you further if it hits with its Astral Claw.
 
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