Humanoid Pretenders are too expensive

[PvK]

Many of the human pretenders have 10-point path costs. Since they also cost significantly fewer points, that is already like giving them the option of being rainbow pretenders.

I haven't heard anything convincing yet that the immortals or non-humans are better than their point costs. For supercombatant pretenders, well, it would be unnatural if it were otherwise.

PvK

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by PvK:
Many of the human pretenders have 10-point path costs. Since they also cost significantly fewer points, that is already like giving them the option of being rainbow pretenders.

I wouldn't say they cost SIGNIFICANTLY fewer points by any stretch. A typical human pretender chassis runs for perhaps 30-50 points....which is not all that much smaller than, say, a Nataraja or a Dragon.

[PDF]

Originally posted by PvK:
Many of the human pretenders have 10-point path costs. Since they also cost significantly fewer points, that is already like giving them the option of being rainbow pretenders.

I haven't heard anything convincing yet that the immortals or non-humans are better than their point costs. For supercombatant pretenders, well, it would be unnatural if it were otherwise.

PvK

That ain't true : a RB with weak dominion cost nearly AS MUCH as a magic-competent SC chassis or Bless-effect path-9 pretender. He is significantly weaker though...
Example :
Druid F2 A2 E2 S3 D2 N2, dom 4, 10 hp, puny stats, that guy gets "bonus" Vine stuff : 260 points !

Son of Niefel W4 any-4 dom 5, 90 hp, str 28 etc... This one gets a free Winter Wolf each turn, without even using the turn to do so : 240 points !!!!
Moloch Fire-9 dom 5, 55 hp, Fear, Flying, Fire resistant : 264 points !!

Where's the problem ? I didn't even compare to a VQ or GK

[Leif_-]

Perhaps the human pretenders could get the benefit of their own bless effect? It would be a nice little perk, without being particularly unbalancing, and it would also be in theme with them being highly skilled magicians.

[Vynd]

Originally posted by Leif_-:
Perhaps the human pretenders could get the benefit of their own bless effect? It would be a nice little perk, without being particularly unbalancing, and it would also be in theme with them being highly skilled magicians.

I don't know that this would have that big of an impact, since most people seem to use the humans as rainbow mages and thus don't get very powerful bless effects.

[Leif_-]

Originally posted by Vynd:
I don't know that this would have that big of an impact, since most people seem to use the humans as rainbow mages and thus don't get very powerful bless effects.

Of course - but then by giving them bless effects you have a reason to use them as something else than just rainbow mages.

[Endoperez]

As berserking suicide militia, maybe? Remember, bless effects were meant to be used on units, not mages! Berserk especially, and others to a lesser degree.